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The official Aloisi is a disrespectful arrogant f**kwit of a human being thread

graaant

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brett said:
Usually it's better to go with the foot nearer to the ball if you can get it there on time. I think both in Aloi$i's and Carney's cases they were thinking left, realised they weren't going to make it, switched their thinking to their right, and by that time the ball had rolled past, with them doing nothing but a 'pants jig'.

In both those cases they could have scored with either foot, or just by falling in front of the ball, if they had just decided and committed to one or the other. Aloi$i's mind obviously isn't where it needs to be to score goals.

That's a really good view and I would agree with it.
However, these guys (a-league or not) are professionals. Training day in, day out and playing weekly. (at the least) and that is a fairly amateur mistake, whether it be mental or physical. This goes for Aloisi doubly as much as it does to Carney.
 

clarence

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Empty said:
I swear the Sydney v Perth match was the funniest game I have ever seen.  All of Sydney had their clown shoes on.  From Golec to Middleby to Aloi$i, all of them in on the joke.  Even the fans that stormed out at the 60th minute mark made me laugh.  The comedy continued from the Cove when they booed their marquee player and awesome role model of a coach.  I can't wait to see what antics Bondi FC come up with this week!  Don't look for the game on Fox Sports, it'll be shown on the Comedy channel.

ha ha.....but if it gets ugly, and the fans arc up, can expect to see most of the Sydney - Melbourne match on the 6PM news as headlines!

BTW, +1 on Middleby's header being a screamer, albeit the wrong way.
 

David Votoupal

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http://sfcu.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&topic=11698.175 - someone posting on there had a chat with McKinna at the game. Another post claims the Mariners were actually playing worse last season with Aloisi.

http://sfcu.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&topic=11698.225- two pages later, a very harsh assessment.
 

FFC Mariner

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Lawrie's alleged remarks

Was sat in the members on Sunday and Lawrie McKinna was seated a row in front of us. Anyway at half time my mate asks Lawrie what is going on with Aloisi and do you want him back. Lawrie said he just really feels for him at the moment as he is not playing overly well, but also stated that the way we play in no way helps him. He made comment that in the 1st half we had little width and everything was too narrow...also said that too many times the build up play is too slow.

He said the reason he scored goals at the Mariners was simple, they played with 2 wide men all the time and got the ball forward to them as quickly as possible, which enabled them to get ball into the box where Aloisi was invariably isolated 1 on 1 with his defender and mostly had space around him. In contrast to us, by the time Sydney get the ball into the box there are 5 or 6 people in there competing.

Said it was very simple and direct but worked as it played to his strengths

and the best post I have read for ages.

We then signed Aloisi for this season as our marquee. He priced himself very high and the front office took a punt on him and gave him the money. So for me this does have a lot to do with the money he's being payed. yes we gave it to him, but he made damn sure he was getting the most money he could get.

Why was he in a position to do this? Because he scored 'that penalty' in 2005. Focusing on this one moment in the 2006 WC campaign is a big part of the problem. It ignores the 2 immense saves Schwarzer made in Montevideo and the two saves he made in the shootout. As Dogga has already mentioned, it also ignores why Aloisi was in the postion to make that defining place kick. Viduka missed his penalty.

Aloisi had one of the best tournaments we've ever seen from an Australian forward at the 2005 confeds cup. But that was now 3 and a half years ago. That's a long time.

Another of Aloisi's claims to fame is being the only Australian to play in the EPL, Serie A and La Liga. WHy was it he got to do this? Is it because he's in high demand? Or is it because he's a mediochre journeyman looking for his next meal? His scoring record is dismal at club level and only improved internationally buy the goals he scored against Oceania opposition that could be hard pressed to perform against a NSWPL team at times. Off the top of my head Osasuna was a relegation battling team basically the whole time Aloisi was there. They finished 4th their first season without him.

He was denied a transfer to Panithanaikos because he failed the medical.

So we have a lovely, Sydney 2005 facade built onto a journeyman striker who asked for and was given big dollars. It was a signing similar to Popa. We didn't need him.

So he gets to Sydney and is promptly injured filming those useless A-League promos. He misses out on pre-season and the first 2-3 games of the regular season.

At the start of Sydney's season we played a 4231 with Bridge up top. We moved the ball slickly and made a move away from the long ball antics of the previous two seasons. The interplay between our midfielders was getting to the potentially telepathic stage and Bridge was making a good fist of his role.

Then Aloisi regained 'fitness' he came on for the final 15 minutes of a demolition of Perth. Immediatley the passing broke down with him at the top. He's rusty, give him time was the consensus.

The upshot of Alosis's installment in the team was a shuffle that hurt a couple of players. Cole was moved from the attacking mid role he had to an unsuited fullback role. He played there in the previous NSWPL season yes, but he struggled at times at that lower level. Against A-League teams he is pretty much out of his depth as a fulltime defender.

Bridge was moved from the #9 slot to Cole's attacking mid possie. He struggles in this role, but still managed to craft himself a spectacular goal playing their.

The athletic contributions of Casey and Santalab plus the best football we've ever seen from McFlynn helped to paper over the faults in the team, the aging and decline of Corica and the fact that the centrebacks we started with were both carrying long term injuries. Then the the two subs, both pushing for starting roles and the heart of our midfield received bad injuries. Timpano and Colosimo had to have their surgery and it all went pear shaped after the Melbourne result.

The team got restructured to accomodate Aloisi, changing from our ideal 4231 to an unsuited 442 diamond, giving him the strike partner he apparently needed. Despite the fact that we don't have an equivalent of CCM's Petrovski. This then didn't work. Excuses were sighted, fitness and service being the culprits. Even thou 2 playes have managed to score more goals then him. And another 3 have scored as many. And how amazing his two goals. A tap in he almost missed and a retaken penalty after the ref took pity on him.

We're struggling and our marquee player should be someone we can turn to in hope, someone that can inspire us, someone that can create something out of nothing. Someone like, Dwight Yorke or Juninho.

Aloisi falls over if he's touched, he can't hold the ball up, he's only recently started looking like he can play somene in, he is incapable of the miraculous and is to busy flapping his arms about and complaining to the ref to inspire anyone to anything.

For $150,000 it might be ok. For $1,400,000 he's a complete joke.

He embarrases me. I find it embarrasing that my club signed him. I find his preformances on he pitch embarrasing. I feel he's disrespecting us, our club, our shirt and our city.

We changed the team when we were winning to fit him in and it didn't work. He needs to go. He's not right for us and we're not right for him.
 

Arabmariner

Well-Known Member
FFC Mariner said:
Lawrie's alleged remarks

Was sat in the members on Sunday and Lawrie McKinna was seated a row in front of us. Anyway at half time my mate asks Lawrie what is going on with Aloi$i and do you want him back. Lawrie said he just really feels for him at the moment as he is not playing overly well, but also stated that the way we play in no way helps him. He made comment that in the 1st half we had little width and everything was too narrow...also said that too many times the build up play is too slow.

He said the reason he scored goals at the Mariners was simple, they played with 2 wide men all the time and got the ball forward to them as quickly as possible, which enabled them to get ball into the box where Aloi$i was invariably isolated 1 on 1 with his defender and mostly had space around him. In contrast to us, by the time Sydney get the ball into the box there are 5 or 6 people in there competing.

Said it was very simple and direct but worked as it played to his strengths

and the best post I have read for ages.

We then signed Aloi$i for this season as our marquee. He priced himself very high and the front office took a punt on him and gave him the money. So for me this does have a lot to do with the money he's being payed. yes we gave it to him, but he made damn sure he was getting the most money he could get.

Why was he in a position to do this? Because he scored 'that penalty' in 2005. Focusing on this one moment in the 2006 WC campaign is a big part of the problem. It ignores the 2 immense saves Schwarzer made in Montevideo and the two saves he made in the shootout. As Dogga has already mentioned, it also ignores why Aloi$i was in the postion to make that defining place kick. Viduka missed his penalty.

Aloi$i had one of the best tournaments we've ever seen from an Australian forward at the 2005 confeds cup. But that was now 3 and a half years ago. That's a long time.

Another of Aloi$i's claims to fame is being the only Australian to play in the EPL, Serie A and La Liga. WHy was it he got to do this? Is it because he's in high demand? Or is it because he's a mediochre journeyman looking for his next meal? His scoring record is dismal at club level and only improved internationally buy the goals he scored against Oceania opposition that could be hard pressed to perform against a NSWPL team at times. Off the top of my head Osasuna was a relegation battling team basically the whole time Aloi$i was there. They finished 4th their first season without him.

He was denied a transfer to Panithanaikos because he failed the medical.

So we have a lovely, Sydney 2005 facade built onto a journeyman striker who asked for and was given big dollars. It was a signing similar to Popa. We didn't need him.

So he gets to Sydney and is promptly injured filming those useless A-League promos. He misses out on pre-season and the first 2-3 games of the regular season.

At the start of Sydney's season we played a 4231 with Bridge up top. We moved the ball slickly and made a move away from the long ball antics of the previous two seasons. The interplay between our midfielders was getting to the potentially telepathic stage and Bridge was making a good fist of his role.

Then Aloi$i regained 'fitness' he came on for the final 15 minutes of a demolition of Perth. Immediatley the passing broke down with him at the top. He's rusty, give him time was the consensus.

The upshot of Alosis's installment in the team was a shuffle that hurt a couple of players. Cole was moved from the attacking mid role he had to an unsuited fullback role. He played there in the previous NSWPL season yes, but he struggled at times at that lower level. Against A-League teams he is pretty much out of his depth as a fulltime defender.

Bridge was moved from the #9 slot to Cole's attacking mid possie. He struggles in this role, but still managed to craft himself a spectacular goal playing their.

The athletic contributions of Casey and Santalab plus the best football we've ever seen from McFlynn helped to paper over the faults in the team, the aging and decline of Corica and the fact that the centrebacks we started with were both carrying long term injuries. Then the the two subs, both pushing for starting roles and the heart of our midfield received bad injuries. Timpano and Colosimo had to have their surgery and it all went pear shaped after the Melbourne result.

The team got restructured to accomodate Aloi$i, changing from our ideal 4231 to an unsuited 442 diamond, giving him the strike partner he apparently needed. Despite the fact that we don't have an equivalent of CCM's Petrovski. This then didn't work. Excuses were sighted, fitness and service being the culprits. Even thou 2 playes have managed to score more goals then him. And another 3 have scored as many. And how amazing his two goals. A tap in he almost missed and a retaken penalty after the ref took pity on him.

We're struggling and our marquee player should be someone we can turn to in hope, someone that can inspire us, someone that can create something out of nothing. Someone like, Dwight Yorke or Juninho.

Aloi$i falls over if he's touched, he can't hold the ball up, he's only recently started looking like he can play somene in, he is incapable of the miraculous and is to busy flapping his arms about and complaining to the ref to inspire anyone to anything.

For $150,000 it might be ok. For $1,400,000 he's a complete joke.

He embarrases me. I find it embarrasing that my club signed him. I find his preformances on he pitch embarrasing. I feel he's disrespecting us, our club, our shirt and our city.

We changed the team when we were winning to fit him in and it didn't work. He needs to go. He's not right for us and we're not right for him.
The only part I disagree with is Lawrie feeling sorry for him!

WTF harden up Lawrie!
 

coast

Well-Known Member
The scum and bling really are leading the way in 'How to waste your marque money'.

If those two are what you get for it, i'm glad we don't have one hahaha
 

fishmum

Well-Known Member
The burning question in my mind is......
Will they play Aloisi this weekend?....

I'm thinking, he will be benched till they see how the game is going, and if Sydney are up, they will bring Johnny in then, or if they think he might score...
No matter when they bring Alloisi in.... the crowd will boo and rubbish him.
 

fishmum

Well-Known Member
Ahhh I was right....
Kossie did exactly what I thought he would...
I saw Alosis have the ball bounce off his head once, and didn't see anything else from him...
But some how.... the moment he came into the game, Sydney was scored against and lost the game...
I felt sydney were right in the game until Aloisi came on..... Then I just knew Sydney wouldn't score again.. hehehehehe....
 

Ranyen

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At the Sydney game at Bluetongue, I had my father with me. He is a Sydney supporter, but I kept on with my shouting about how shite Alo$i is.

I saw him yesterday, and he told me that when he watched the perth game last round, all he could hear running in the back of his mind was me saying....

"you're just a waste of money...." :thumbup:

Plus our fantastic win over the scum (as well as last nights game) has got him really worried about Sydneys position on the ladder after round 21
 

David Votoupal

Well-Known Member
coast said:
The scum and bling really are leading the way in 'How to waste your marque money'.

If those two are what you get for it, i'm glad we don't have one hahaha

That's because those clubs fail to do their homework. And Newcastle, or more specifically Constantine, showed naivete with Jardel even though everyone in the football world knew he wouldn't be up to it.

Melbourne on the other hand have stuck with Archie Thompson as marquee the whole time, and he's delivered far more on and off the field than most marquees have.
 

Paolo

Well-Known Member
coast said:
If those two are what you get for it, i'm glad we don't have one hahaha
i fail to see how griffith has been or is a waste of money when he as scored as many goals as he has, golden boot, johnny warren medalist and when most of the time he single handedly keeps them alive.
 

bikinigirl

Well-Known Member
coast said:
When was Griffith a marque player?

. he's not yet ... but will be next year

. i think since he was announced as the marque he has not been as infuential as in the past, and people are drawing correlations between the jests other marques
 

bulldogmariner

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Sydney FC's John Aloisi reportedly under pressure to terminate contract
By Val Migliaccio
January 05, 2009 WHETHER he likes it or not, John Aloisi may have already played his last game for Sydney FC.

The A-League's most expensive signing at a reported $1.2 million a season is destined not to fulfil his two-year contract at Sydney.

It is understood Aloisi is under enormous pressure to terminate his contract at the season's end as Sydney boss John Kosmina battles to save his own job.

Kosmina is in the line of fire after Sydney went down 2-0 to Adelaide United at Adelaide Oval on Saturday.

But Aloisi could be made a scapegoat for Sydney's disastrous season after scoring only two goals in 15 appearances.

The South Australian was hailed as a hero in 2005 when his successful penalty against Uruguay in Sydney enabled the Socceroos to qualify for the World Cup for the first time since 1974.

But just three years later, Sydney fans turned on one of the game's homegrown legends in a remarkable act of treachery - he was continually jeered when Sydney went down 1-4 to Perth Glory in Sydney last month, after missing two goalscoring chances.

Kosmina then subbed Aloisi early in the second half during the match, with Sydney fans reserving their loudest jeers when the striker was walking off the park.

Adelaide United will not offer the striker a lifeline if Aloisi were to be cut loose next season, Reds' football director Michael Petrillo revealed.

"Without discussing John (Aloisi) with Viddie (coach Aurelio Vidmar), we can't fit him into our salary cap," Petrillo said.

"At this stage, it would be impossible for us."
 

clarence

Well-Known Member
By the looks of that new article, Bulldogmariner, it would seem that Aloisi has gone from 'hot property' to 'steaming hot pile of shit' in one season!

Adelaide, I bet, is hedging bets by saying they can't fit him in. I'm guessing they wouldn't mind having him in the team but not as marquee (obvious by their 'not fit in salary cap' comment & perhaps a prior marquee commitment)- don't see him as the star attraction in other words too, and hoping maybe Aloisi terminates with Sydney and prepared to mark himself down quite a lot of $$ just to get a run next season with his home city club.

Problem there is the politics though.

His brother Ross left AU on bad terms, & when Aloisi was touting a return to Australia last season, there was a lot of comment about Adelaide being last in his sights due to the way his brother left the club. No doubt some of that comment may have actually been true, so AU don't owe Johnny boy any favours.

Stranger things have happened, but maybe JA could turn out for us in the ACL, and see if he snags a contract after that. That's of course, if Lawrie and Lyall would want him back at the club.

We have a reasonable strike force at present at this club, but there's talk of Sasho leaving, and we have to step up a notch when we walk onto the ACL stage. If Sasho leaves, we would want to have a decent poacher type striker up front.

But would Aloisi be worth the changes Lawrie would have to make? Tbf to Sasho, he hasn't been lazy this year and has come back looking for the ball and also prepared to run up the wings too. Cannot see Aloisi deeming that sort of work 'his job'.
 

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