R13 - NYE vs Welly - it's time to get a win!

[nebakke]

what was it?

Quiz on CCM... Top scorer this season.... Most yellows... that sort of thing.
They seemed to be in good humour.

 

[nebakke]

It was helt enjoyable I thought and excellent performance.
But I'm tired and tipsy now so will revisit tomorrow ;-)
One thing though... I guess it's a piece of string type thing but... Bonevacia was in KGJ's ear all night... Isn't that supposed to eventually be a cardable offence?
It wasn't even just when calls were made - I swear he spent more time whinging at the ref than he did looking at the ball... Really grated on me.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Actually it was Durante who was booked at the O'Donovan incident - Muscat was already on a card. So the cheating little scumbag got off scot free

$50 says the MRP do absolutely nothing about his strike.

 

[Garth]

Roy picked up a Yellow card, so that can't be reviewed as far as I am aware. Only if no card was issued.

What a performance by our mighty Mariners we made the Phoenix look like they were "BURNT BIRDS" (Phoenix supposedly rises from the ashes, sorry BURNT BIRDS) Yes Roy picked up the yellow but did you happen to see the blatant attack on him, The "Cyclops" ref didn't see it and the linesman, well they were waiting for the game to conclude to get to whatever party that would accept these poor excuses for supposedly unbiased assistance to a ref that probably accompanied the BURNT BIRDS back to the land of the Long White Cloud.

 

[Rowdy]

Roy picked up a Yellow card, so that can't be reviewed as far as I am aware. Only if no card was issued.

It will all depend on what the Ref gave him a yellow card for & wrote in the match report.

i.e: if card was for say hypothetical 'push & shove - then I believe MRP can take a look at it, as the head-butt would be deemed 'missed' by the officials.

If the Ref gave him a yellow (which I highly doubt) for 'head-butting' an opponent then it will be The Referee who will be getting a suspension for failing to give a -red-card'.

Either way, I think RO'D will be extremely lucky if he doesnt get at least a week like Simon, if not more.

 

[Garth]

It was helt enjoyable I thought and excellent performance.
But I'm tired and tipsy now so will revisit tomorrow ;-)
One thing though... I guess it's a piece of string type thing but... Bonevacia was in KGJ's ear all night... Isn't that supposed to eventually be a cardable offence?
It wasn't even just when calls were made - I swear he spent more time whinging at the ref than he did looking at the ball... Really grated on me.

3 points mate!!!!

 

[Rowdy]

Patricio Perez is subliminally flashing through my mind.

CCM get shafted with 'new interpretation' of the processes that the MRP are suppossed to adhere to.

NIX get nix to nothing in the way of punishment, other than spending NYE alone without a merino.

 

[Gratis]

Love it FP: "News articles around the country start running: "rumours canon unhappy at Mariners" "Canon unrest" "Canon says - nobody fires me!" Some suggestions from CCM camp that we may be willing to let Arnie stick it up his ass if he asks nicely. Other rumours confirm 5 players were lingering suspiciously around said canon pre game. Canons manager says "this is disgraceful, the canon must play!" Everyone wonders WTF is he talking about."

Also cheers for the entertaining synopsis

 

[shipwreck]

Ref will have reported it as the afters involved with Durante, I'm gonna call it 6 weeks for Roy and 2 for Muscat.

Great game, annoyed it will be marred by the controversy because we did deserve the win. We are a lazy journalists dream at the moment.

 

[sydmariner]

lol

 

[Garth]

It will all depend on what the Ref gave him a yellow card for & wrote in the match report.

i.e: if card was for say hypothetical 'push & shove - then I believe MRP can take a look at it, as the head-butt would be deemed 'missed' by the officials.

If the Ref gave him a yellow (which I highly doubt) for 'head-butting' an opponent then it will be The Referee who will be getting a suspension for failing to give a -red-card'.

Either way, I think RO'D will be extremely lucky if he doesnt get at least a week like Simon, if not more.

Did anybody see that elbow to the jaw of Roy it was lost in transition, the otherside of the stadium saw it I and several others watched the screen for replay the screen all of a sudden displayed the Mariners logo if a replay of what happened had been shown there would have been a riot! Cyclops(ref) didnt see it.

 

[Garth]

Ref will have reported it as the afters involved with Durante, I'm gonna call it 6 weeks for Roy and 2 for Muscat.

Great game, annoyed it will be marred by the controversy because we did deserve the win. We are a lazy journalists dream at the moment.

Good point when I think of the halcyon days before that rat fart Charlesworth bought us I really want to emulate the Albino in Dan Brown's best seller!

 

[Garth]

Just consider them as they the Phoenix that will never rise BURNT BIRDS

 

[Rowdy]

What a performance by our mighty Mariners we made the Phoenix look like they were "BURNT BIRDS" (Phoenix supposedly rises from the ashes, sorry BURNT BIRDS )

unbiased assistance to a ref that probably accompanied the BURNT BIRDS back to the land of the Long White Cloud.

Just consider them as they the Phoenix that will never rise BURNT BIRDS

Yeah Yeah, BURNT BIRDS got it the 4th time.

I'm not angry.
That's a BURNT EMOJI

 

[bikinigirl]

Fab blasts it into the top of the net. Bluey erupts. Canon fails to fire. Hey this is the Mariners. Can't have everything.

News articles around the country start running: "rumours canon unhappy at Mariners" "Canon unrest" "Canon says - nobody fires me!" Some suggestions from CCM camp that we may be willing to let Arnie stick it up his ass if he asks nicely. Other rumours confirm 5 players were lingering suspiciously around said canon pre game. Canons manager says "this is disgraceful, the canon must play!" Everyone wonders WTF is he talking about.

. i know Gra has already singled this out for praise, but it worthy of more - particularly coming so late on NYE

. well played Sir!

 

[bikinigirl]

It will all depend on what the Ref gave him a yellow card for & wrote in the match report.

i.e: if card was for say hypothetical 'push & shove - then I believe MRP can take a look at it, as the head-butt would be deemed 'missed' by the officials.

. yep, i agree. i haven't seen a replay (other than at the end of the match the big screen was showing Roy starting to 'lean in' when they cut the footage again) ... so i can't really comment

. but i don't think the ref saw it either - perhaps the assistant did see it, reported it and the card was issued. regardless, it is more likely to be written up as some vague off the ball incident that can quickly be re-interpreted as a separate incident ... everybody wins ... except ... oh ... the team in yellow. so business as usual

. rules aren't rules if they can't be re-interpreted to discriminate against the Mariners

. as I said I didn't see the incident (or a replay) and if it is as violent as people are suggesting I won't argue that a suspension is not warranted ... but that is not what I am talking about here. i did make comment after Muscat was lying there near death ... who will get their chance next week - Heff or Bingham? the writing was clearly on the wall

 

[bikinigirl]

. separate question for you guys (again without the benefit of a replay) ... was their goal off-side?

. nobody seems to have mentioned it ... so it probably wasn't. from my vantage point at least one in the middle looked to be offside - but not sure if it was the goal scorer or not ... or whether that mattered

 

[true believer]

Wombat, in a word.

Determined.

We were dogged in midfield, conceding our ineffective possession of other games for a counter game - via fast and physical closing down in numbers and then looking to feed Fab and Austin quickly and directly.

It was mostly effective.

We won a lot more second ball and looked dangerous in possession. They had a lot more possession and completed passes. We had a lot more shots and shots on target. Except for around a ten minute scare, we looked largely in the ascendancy and deserving winners.

This was also a game where we we finally got the rub of an incompetent referee. And they were plagued by injuries leading in and then during the match also.

Our first goal; Austin breaks, puts in a perfect cross, Fab obviously prefers his feet to his head and it should be one nil, ball rebounds, Rose runs in, it's neck and neck with a defender (Was it Muscat) so tries to go around him, Muscat semi shepherds the ball, rose off balance goes down, looked like it could be a pen at first, but replay shows defender got to the ball first. Still it's awarded. Fab steps up, Durante tries to put him off with a few words in his ear... Fab blasts it into the top of the net. Bluey erupts. Canon fails to fire. Hey this is the Mariners. Can't have everything.

News articles around the country start running: "rumours canon unhappy at Mariners" "Canon unrest" "Canon says - nobody fires me!" Some suggestions from CCM camp that we may be willing to let Arnie stick it up his ass if he asks nicely. Other rumours confirm 5 players were lingering suspiciously around said canon pre game. Canons manager says "this is disgraceful, the canon must play!" Everyone wonders WTF is he talking about.

Defence:

We had a period where we're looking unstructured and shaky, but after about ten minutes or so we firm up, however we are definitely helped by the Kiwis making a lot of errors. I think our intensity and game plan had them a bit confused. (Was glad Sarpong was out).

Overall, our defence was considerably improved. Which it should be with 8 of them on I'll give you, and maybe not so much from better marking, but we contested very well, each player is determined and committed, it shows, and it works. We still look poor at defending set pieces however and there was plenty of opportunity if they'd used their possession better.

Second goal, fantastic steel by Roy, feeds Austin with a beautiful and intelligent ball across the box when he could have shot form a poor angle. Austin slides in to convert. Nice goal.

2 - 0

2nd half - Austin and Fab tiring and need to be pulled for safety, Bingham and L.Rose on and do ok, but the loss of the two fast wingers as an outlet is clearly hurting us. Kiwis get some momentum and score a fairly simple goal with Rosey pulled too central to shut down the cross, Powell taps in.

2 -1

Somewhere around this point... Roy who has been terrific, winning most battles and thereby frustrating the shit out of Durante and Muscat - is contesting with Muscat so Muscat decides to give him some treatment... and Roy decides to teach him a very important lesson about the Irish.

The end result makes Zinidine Zidanes liverpool kiss look like the pathetic limp necked french effort that it was.

Roy should not just go. You watch it, and you think, oh f**k, that's 6 weeks if its a day. Maybe 6 months? But cue the incompetent ref and his 3 blind mice - who missed all the build up, and of course also miss the biggest in HAL history.

They don't know what's happening. Players are rushing in wanting to lynch Roy. Muscat is whimpering on the ground in the 18yd box. So Roy tells them he was elbowed, and shows them the blood above his eye to prove his point. And it does, as it is still flowing freely from the cut he received from head butting Muscat. Gotta love the irish.

The ref gives them both a yellow. Roy is still on. And we plead the sackwhacker amendment.

Harper and Simon are livid in the commentary. Harper suggest the rules should now change because it's CCM.

Phoenix know they're still not out of it, until we score our 3rd goal... Neil with a great tackle and steal, pushes into the 18yd box, turns past a player cuts back inside and shoots with the kind of precision that our midfield has been so horribly absent of and takes us to a safe margin again and you know it's over when it goes in.


Player ratings.

Heward Belle 6.5 - one miss hit ball that almost cost us, some of the other distribution not brilliant, but otherwise ok - made a double save and another decent reflex save as well. Not a stellar performance exactly but one to be reasonably happy with.

Roy, Fab and Austin all played great games. 8

Fab would have been a 9 if he used his head.
Roy would have been a 9 if he hadn't used his.
Austin would have been 9, if his decision making on when to pass and when to shoot was better.

Neil, McGing and Monty gave no quarter - and it was great to see the level of activity and also for it not to look like Monty was playing all positions.

McGing and Monty 8.

Neil 9. Terrifically taken goal at an important time, some good runs and solid defending. Was a real asset tonight - took his chance - my MOM.

Roux - 8 - quiet game in attack - but his best game in defense this year.

Rosey 7.5 was too central on the goal, but earned the pen that got us believing and mostly solid otherwise.

Ascroft - 6.5 solid - but needs to improve aerially to get the best out of him. Missed a clearing header he should have had, that could have put us a goal down and also missed a good scoring opportunity.

Posc - 7.5 - welcome back - no special highlights - but didn't put a foot wrong that I saw - I'd take that every week.

Bingham - 6.5 - tries hard, couple of moments of promise, but no super sub either.

Heff - no score - only 4 minutes. Still was enough to see he that he is still slower than a wet week and will never be able to defend from the front, hard to see how he will ever adjust to this pace of football. Will require a very dominant midfield where he can camp in the opponents box.

L.Rose - not a lot of minutes - no score - just some bits and bobs when we were mostly just playing down the last 12 minutes.

Great post phoenix .give yourself a 9.5

 

[Atomic]

. separate question for you guys (again without the benefit of a replay) ... was their goal off-side?

. nobody seems to have mentioned it ... so it probably wasn't. from my vantage point at least one in the middle looked to be offside - but not sure if it was the goal scorer or not ... or whether that mattered

I haven't seen a replay to confirm this, but a friend of mine said that their goal scorer was in front of our defenders, but behind the nix player that crossed the ball to him.

 

[true believer]

lol

Shows roy must have got the shiner
From the eblow.