Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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That's twice Roy has gotten away with a red card offence in the space of about 7 weeks.....that's actually kind of concerning. Is he going to be prone to brain snaps?
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R13 - NYE vs Welly - it's time to get a win!
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Forum Phoenix
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Can't believe you asked that question.
Yes.
Yes he is.
Yes.
Yes he is.
Ancient Mariner
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Wish there were a few more in the club with his passion.
A great role model to the youngsters.
Just needs to occasionally think a bit.
A great role model to the youngsters.
Just needs to occasionally think a bit.
Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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I don't really equate losing your cool and doing something stupid with passion myself. 'Passion' was the excuse tards gave for Muscat.
On a side note, I find it hilarious that the sheepshaggers are saying we dived for that penalty. Now, you don't have to agree that it's a penalty (it wasn't, it was an absurd decision), but there's no possible way that was a dive. Oh well, sheepshaggers are butthurt I guess (see what I did there?)
I'd love to know what Muscat said as he ran up to Roy though.
On a side note, I find it hilarious that the sheepshaggers are saying we dived for that penalty. Now, you don't have to agree that it's a penalty (it wasn't, it was an absurd decision), but there's no possible way that was a dive. Oh well, sheepshaggers are butthurt I guess (see what I did there?)
I'd love to know what Muscat said as he ran up to Roy though.
Fishsdad
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Watched the game from a pub in Launceston: Fishsmum and I are willing to stay down here for the remainder of the season if it helps with the results.
Couldn't hear any commentary, but the headbutt was replayed ad infinitum, and I have to say it was disgraceful. As everyone else has commented he will be very lucky if he cannot be cited. This was not a 'heart of the moment' lash, it was premeditated. Roy has set a dreadful example for other players and everyone watching, he deserves the harshest of suspensions. IMHO Matt Simon deserved two weeks, and this was far worse.
Back to the game; it seemed that we 'out-enthused' the Phoenix and well and truly deserved the win. And with Fab getting closer to match fitness we should be more competitive over the next few weeks.
kevrenor
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You'd like to think so, but I have my doubts.
Forum Phoenix
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Wombat, in a word.
Determined.
We were dogged in midfield, conceding our ineffective possession of other games for a counter game - via fast and physical closing down in numbers and then looking to feed Fab and Austin quickly and directly.
It was mostly effective.
We won a lot more second ball and looked dangerous in possession. They had a lot more possession and completed passes. We had a lot more shots and shots on target. Except for around a ten minute scare, we looked largely in the ascendancy and deserving winners.
This was also a game where we we finally got the rub of an incompetent referee. And they were plagued by injuries leading in and then during the match also.
Our first goal; Austin breaks, puts in a perfect cross, Fab obviously prefers his feet to his head and it should be one nil, ball rebounds, Rose runs in, it's neck and neck with a defender (Was it Muscat) so tries to go around him, Muscat semi shepherds the ball, rose off balance goes down, looked like it could be a pen at first, but replay shows defender got to the ball first. Still it's awarded. Fab steps up, Durante tries to put him off with a few words in his ear... Fab blasts it into the top of the net. Bluey erupts. Canon fails to fire. Hey this is the Mariners. Can't have everything.
News articles around the country start running: "rumours canon unhappy at Mariners" "Canon unrest" "Canon says - nobody fires me!" Some suggestions from CCM camp that we may be willing to let Arnie stick it up his ass if he asks nicely. Other rumours confirm 5 players were lingering suspiciously around said canon pre game. Canons manager says "this is disgraceful, the canon must play!" Everyone wonders WTF is he talking about.
Defence:
We had a period where we're looking unstructured and shaky, but after about ten minutes or so we firm up, however we are definitely helped by the Kiwis making a lot of errors. I think our intensity and game plan had them a bit confused. (Was glad Sarpong was out).
Overall, our defence was considerably improved. Which it should be with 8 of them on I'll give you,
and maybe not so much from better marking, but we contested very well, each player is determined and committed, it shows, and it works. We still look poor at defending set pieces however and there was plenty of opportunity if they'd used their possession better.
Second goal, fantastic steel by Roy, feeds Austin with a beautiful and intelligent ball across the box when he could have shot form a poor angle. Austin slides in to convert. Nice goal.
2 - 0
2nd half - Austin and Fab tiring and need to be pulled for safety, Bingham and L.Rose on and do ok, but the loss of the two fast wingers as an outlet is clearly hurting us. Kiwis get some momentum and score a fairly simple goal with Rosey pulled too central to shut down the cross, Powell taps in.
2 -1
Somewhere around this point... Roy who has been terrific, winning most battles and thereby frustrating the shit out of Durante and Muscat - is contesting with Muscat so Muscat decides to give him some treatment... and Roy decides to teach him a very important lesson about the Irish.
The end result makes Zinidine Zidanes liverpool kiss look like the pathetic limp necked french effort that it was.
Roy should not just go. You watch it, and you think, oh f**k, that's 6 weeks if its a day. Maybe 6 months? But cue the incompetent ref and his 3 blind mice - who missed all the build up, and of course also miss the biggestin HAL history.
They don't know what's happening. Players are rushing in wanting to lynch Roy. Muscat is whimpering on the ground in the 18yd box. So Roy tells them he was elbowed, and shows them the blood above his eye to prove his point. And it does, as it is still flowing freely from the cut he received from head butting Muscat. Gotta love the irish.
The ref gives them both a yellow. Roy is still on. And we plead the sackwhacker amendment.
Harper and Simon are livid in the commentary. Harper suggest the rules should now change because it's CCM.
Phoenix know they're still not out of it, until we score our 3rd goal... Neil with a great tackle and steal, pushes into the 18yd box, turns past a player cuts back inside and shoots with the kind of precision that our midfield has been so horribly absent of and takes us to a safe margin again and you know it's over when it goes in.
Player ratings.
Heward Belle 6.5 - one miss hit ball that almost cost us, some of the other distribution not brilliant, but otherwise ok - made a double save and another decent reflex save as well. Not a stellar performance exactly but one to be reasonably happy with.
Roy, Fab and Austin all played great games. 8
Fab would have been a 9 if he used his head.
Roy would have been a 9 if he hadn't used his.
Austin would have been 9, if his decision making on when to pass and when to shoot was better.
Neil, McGing and Monty gave no quarter - and it was great to see the level of activity and also for it not to look like Monty was playing all positions.
McGing and Monty 8.
Neil 9. Terrifically taken goal at an important time, some good runs and solid defending. Was a real asset tonight - took his chance - my MOM.
Roux - 8 - quiet game in attack - but his best game in defense this year.
Rosey 7.5 was too central on the goal, but earned the pen that got us believing and mostly solid otherwise.
Ascroft - 6.5 solid - but needs to improve aerially to get the best out of him. Missed a clearing header he should have had, that could have put us a goal down and also missed a good scoring opportunity.
Posc - 7.5 - welcome back - no special highlights - but didn't put a foot wrong that I saw - I'd take that every week.
Bingham - 6.5 - tries hard, couple of moments of promise, but no super sub either.
Heff - no score - only 4 minutes. Still was enough to see he that he is still slower than a wet week and will never be able to defend from the front, hard to see how he will ever adjust to this pace of football. Will require a very dominant midfield where he can camp in the opponents box.
L.Rose - not a lot of minutes - no score - just some bits and bobs when we were mostly just playing down the last 12 minutes.
Determined.
We were dogged in midfield, conceding our ineffective possession of other games for a counter game - via fast and physical closing down in numbers and then looking to feed Fab and Austin quickly and directly.
It was mostly effective.
We won a lot more second ball and looked dangerous in possession. They had a lot more possession and completed passes. We had a lot more shots and shots on target. Except for around a ten minute scare, we looked largely in the ascendancy and deserving winners.
This was also a game where we we finally got the rub of an incompetent referee. And they were plagued by injuries leading in and then during the match also.
Our first goal; Austin breaks, puts in a perfect cross, Fab obviously prefers his feet to his head and it should be one nil, ball rebounds, Rose runs in, it's neck and neck with a defender (Was it Muscat) so tries to go around him, Muscat semi shepherds the ball, rose off balance goes down, looked like it could be a pen at first, but replay shows defender got to the ball first. Still it's awarded. Fab steps up, Durante tries to put him off with a few words in his ear... Fab blasts it into the top of the net. Bluey erupts. Canon fails to fire. Hey this is the Mariners. Can't have everything.
News articles around the country start running: "rumours canon unhappy at Mariners" "Canon unrest" "Canon says - nobody fires me!" Some suggestions from CCM camp that we may be willing to let Arnie stick it up his ass if he asks nicely. Other rumours confirm 5 players were lingering suspiciously around said canon pre game. Canons manager says "this is disgraceful, the canon must play!" Everyone wonders WTF is he talking about.
Defence:
We had a period where we're looking unstructured and shaky, but after about ten minutes or so we firm up, however we are definitely helped by the Kiwis making a lot of errors. I think our intensity and game plan had them a bit confused. (Was glad Sarpong was out).
Overall, our defence was considerably improved. Which it should be with 8 of them on I'll give you,
and maybe not so much from better marking, but we contested very well, each player is determined and committed, it shows, and it works. We still look poor at defending set pieces however and there was plenty of opportunity if they'd used their possession better.Second goal, fantastic steel by Roy, feeds Austin with a beautiful and intelligent ball across the box when he could have shot form a poor angle. Austin slides in to convert. Nice goal.
2 - 0
2nd half - Austin and Fab tiring and need to be pulled for safety, Bingham and L.Rose on and do ok, but the loss of the two fast wingers as an outlet is clearly hurting us. Kiwis get some momentum and score a fairly simple goal with Rosey pulled too central to shut down the cross, Powell taps in.
2 -1
Somewhere around this point... Roy who has been terrific, winning most battles and thereby frustrating the shit out of Durante and Muscat - is contesting with Muscat so Muscat decides to give him some treatment... and Roy decides to teach him a very important lesson about the Irish.
The end result makes Zinidine Zidanes liverpool kiss look like the pathetic limp necked french effort that it was.
Roy should not just go. You watch it, and you think, oh f**k, that's 6 weeks if its a day. Maybe 6 months? But cue the incompetent ref and his 3 blind mice - who missed all the build up, and of course also miss the biggest
in HAL history.They don't know what's happening. Players are rushing in wanting to lynch Roy. Muscat is whimpering on the ground in the 18yd box. So Roy tells them he was elbowed, and shows them the blood above his eye to prove his point. And it does, as it is still flowing freely from the cut he received from head butting Muscat. Gotta love the irish.
The ref gives them both a yellow. Roy is still on. And we plead the sackwhacker amendment.
Harper and Simon are livid in the commentary. Harper suggest the rules should now change because it's CCM.
Phoenix know they're still not out of it, until we score our 3rd goal... Neil with a great tackle and steal, pushes into the 18yd box, turns past a player cuts back inside and shoots with the kind of precision that our midfield has been so horribly absent of and takes us to a safe margin again and you know it's over when it goes in.
Player ratings.
Heward Belle 6.5 - one miss hit ball that almost cost us, some of the other distribution not brilliant, but otherwise ok - made a double save and another decent reflex save as well. Not a stellar performance exactly but one to be reasonably happy with.
Roy, Fab and Austin all played great games. 8
Fab would have been a 9 if he used his head.
Roy would have been a 9 if he hadn't used his.
Austin would have been 9, if his decision making on when to pass and when to shoot was better.
Neil, McGing and Monty gave no quarter - and it was great to see the level of activity and also for it not to look like Monty was playing all positions.
McGing and Monty 8.
Neil 9. Terrifically taken goal at an important time, some good runs and solid defending. Was a real asset tonight - took his chance - my MOM.
Roux - 8 - quiet game in attack - but his best game in defense this year.
Rosey 7.5 was too central on the goal, but earned the pen that got us believing and mostly solid otherwise.
Ascroft - 6.5 solid - but needs to improve aerially to get the best out of him. Missed a clearing header he should have had, that could have put us a goal down and also missed a good scoring opportunity.
Posc - 7.5 - welcome back - no special highlights - but didn't put a foot wrong that I saw - I'd take that every week.
Bingham - 6.5 - tries hard, couple of moments of promise, but no super sub either.
Heff - no score - only 4 minutes. Still was enough to see he that he is still slower than a wet week and will never be able to defend from the front, hard to see how he will ever adjust to this pace of football. Will require a very dominant midfield where he can camp in the opponents box.
L.Rose - not a lot of minutes - no score - just some bits and bobs when we were mostly just playing down the last 12 minutes.
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Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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I disagree there. After elbowing him in the face, Muscat ran up to him saying something. I daresay whatever he said triggered the brain explosion. Regardless, I would think 8 weeks minimum for something like that, even 12 weeks.
But we should be fortunate with the judiciary.
sydmariner
Well-Known Member
Maybe it was his Zizou moment lol
Forum Phoenix
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Terrible sure, but it wasn't premeditated, it only happened because Muscat ran in for some more afters - and Roy's inner Celt took over. All happened inside only a second or two. One of the reasons it was so impressive in a combat sense. If he wasn't on a football field he'd be arguing self defence.
This other person grabbed me, then he elbowed me, then he lashed out again at me and missed, at this point I ran off, but he chased after me and so as he ran in, I spun and struck out just before he attacked me again.
This other person grabbed me, then he elbowed me, then he lashed out again at me and missed, at this point I ran off, but he chased after me and so as he ran in, I spun and struck out just before he attacked me again.
sydmariner
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The 3 stooges could do a better job than most of the refs that we haveIt was bad. But no worse than sack whacking a ref mind you...
Forum Phoenix
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Happy NY everyone.
FFC Mariner
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Hutch said pre game that he wants players who want to play for the badge not the name on the back.
That showed tonight and I am so happy for the lads.
The ones who were dropped and then tried to leave the ground can piss right off too
That showed tonight and I am so happy for the lads.
The ones who were dropped and then tried to leave the ground can piss right off too
MagpieMariner
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Tricky & Sim were involved in the half-time "entertainment", makes me think they haven't read the media telling them that they are unhappy with the club.
MagpieMariner
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I enjoyed the performance tonight. I'd like to see the same team & formation next match.
Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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Tricky & Sim were involved in the half-time "entertainment", what was it?
Blackadder
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Roy picked up a Yellow card, so that can't be reviewed as far as I am aware. Only if no card was issued.
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