R12 Sydney FC v Mariners

[nearlyyellow]

He won't put a cent into the club any more, he is solely concerned with getting his investment back from the coe.

For all the appearances it seems to me it may be that he's desperately trying to keep his arse out of the debtor's prison. And if keeping the team and the FFA license afloat for a couple of lean years means "lost" seasons then so be it. Man Up Mate and maintain your support in public, even though inside you are feeling, like me, a little despondent.

 

[FFC Mariner]

For all the appearances it seems to me it may be that he's desperately trying to keep his arse out of the debtor's prison. And if keeping the team and the FFA license afloat for a couple of lean years means "lost" seasons then so be it. Man Up Mate and maintain your support in public, even though inside you are feeling, like me, a little despondent.

 

[shipwreck]

He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

 

[gull]

The referees decided both games yesterday, but the sad part is that we are so used to poor refereeing that we now don't even bother to complain.

McGing's "penalty" was a blatant dive, and the refs just keep rewarding these time and again. Will we see it rescinded like we did with Perez - nope.

We've only seen one camera angle of the Izzo penalty as well. Would be interesting to see it from the side rather than behind as I have my suspicions about this one too.

We were constantly fouled with no cards for persistent foul play.

Add the Simon incident and we've been very poorly treated once again.

Credit to the young team as they could have fallen apart and conceded 10, but we got our composure back enough to play them off the park in the second half.

Sydney probably have bigger concerns than we do as we are expected to lose, but they're going to cop some hidings with the rubbish that they dish up with their big money squad.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Ok, my 2 cents:

I had a bit of a chuckle at the 'alternative coin toss'. Nothing wrong with a bit of silly fun.
Their first goal? Pisspoor defending, surprise, sur-flapping-prise.
Their penalty? Cheating scumbag took a dive, but was clipped on the way down. Absolutely stupid, amateur tackle. Given the clear contact I can't be too upset at Williams for missing the start of the dive first, to be honest, given there was miliseconds in it. Regardless I can still be angry at the cheating little prick. Worst part is, SFC took at least another 2 dives in the box later in the game - their conduct was truly disgraceful this match, completely brought it into disrepute - and absolutely nothing from the ref for those.
Izzo's penalty - clear penalty, another very amateur tackle. Can't argue with the card. Izzo needs to be replaced - sorry mate, had your chance, not up to the standard. Too many basic mistakes that you're not making up for.
Fourth goal - amateur defending again, not paying attention.

We should have had a penalty and Matt simon sent off. Heck, I can accept it if you want to say it's only a yellow - but it's still a penalty. Bosnich has absolutely no idea what he's talking about 'it's a yellow card but not a penalty'. Given it's a striking foul it's impossible to give a card but no free kick you absolute muppet. Always blows my mind how somebody with his experience can know so little about the laws.

So what this boils down to is that each team earned a goal. SFC had 2 penalties, one from a dive. We should have been given one, and we gifted them an own goal.

SFC became highly cynical as soon as we began to get momentum, kept chopping us down. They did cop a few cards for it though. Couldn't complain about the refereeing outside of those 2 incidents, and the other dives.

But my god, I've lost all hope for our current team. We're just useless. And we don't have the players - until we do some recruiting, we may as well just forfeit the rest of the season. These game are no longer 'development opportunities'. Credit to the boys, they kept playing right to the end - and after the season they're having, that's actually quite remarkable. But we don't have a keeper. We don't have defenders - too many amateur mistakes, just not up to the task. And we don't have the strikers to fulfil Walmsely's vision of an attacking side. What about all these ties to other regions we've built up? Surely we can be borrowing some talented youngsters?

We're not getting the ball into the Penalty Area enough - SFC massively outdid us there. We're not fulfilling our goal as an attacking team, and it's amateur hour at the back. with the team we have we deserve the wooden spoon. Does Charlesworth want to own a HAL side, or a State League side? He's paying for a State League side but expecting a HAL team!!!

Despite all that - man, SFC played like crap! Aside from their front end being more effective than hours, I felt much of the game was reasonable even. But they probably took the foot off the gas - but they played really terribly.

Good on our young replacement keeper though, he did will despite looking terrified (who wouldn't be?).
Absolutely dismal. I'll keep watching - but expecting to lose helps keep the pain to a minimum.

 

[dibo]

Way too harsh.

We've got the second half of a great squad. Ascroft, McGing, Neill, Poscoliero, Liam Rose, Kalik, Heward-Belle - there's some talent there but it's harsh on them to expect them to play like experienced players. We're missing the old heads, the leaders, the mortar that binds us.

If at the start of the year the guys you look to to provide that leadership (e.g. Reddy and Bosnar) don't provide what's needed or even detract from it, then we have serious issues.

And if your young but relatively experienced players aren't producing (e.g. Fitzgerald, Caceres) then we have further issues.

It's hard to coach your way through that. The experience can only be bought in, and I'm not expecting that to happen.

So this year is about damage limitation. We've been here before (2009/10) but unlike that year, a bunch of our players have potential to be really important in future years, if we can keep them together and keep their heads together too. Oh, and if we can keep the club afloat that long!

 

[BrisRecky]

Sigh, wonder how hard it's getting for TW to coach the team with handcuffs and a metaphorical blindfold on...Charles worth is hoping Tony gets the next crop of high price sales ready, what his gonna get is a bunch of kids with crushed spirits...I really though we were in with a shout last night, but alas not too be.....won't be a problem getting a seat for the Nye game methinks.....missus said last night, you think hutcho is really sick or has he told the owner to jog on and has been put in the naughty corner

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Criticise me for being too harsh than go on to agree with me ;-)

Ultimately, what you're saying is that we don't have the experienced players to hold the team together while the young ones develop. Nobody would disagree with that.
Walmsely isn't being allowed to have the tools to do his job.

The referees decided both games yesterday, but the sad part is that we are so used to poor refereeing that we now don't even bother to complain.

McGing's "penalty" was a blatant dive, and the refs just keep rewarding these time and again. Will we see it rescinded like we did with Perez - nope.

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With the pic you posted, the defender's foot came up after that, I thought.

 

[Spacks]

This is what we need:

• 1x Experienced defender
• Better attacking midfielder, get rid of Caceres and give Trifiro a chance
• Striker that can take their chances and score in this league, not the NPL (Get rid of Donovan/Heffernan]

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

We've only seen one camera angle of the Izzo penalty as well. Would be interesting to see it from the side rather than behind as I have my suspicions about this one too.
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The replay on the Fox sports site shows about 3 different angles. The contact still isn't clear so I could entertain an argument that there was no contact....but I think Izzo's reaction has the answer. He didn't even try to argue his case, so he knew he did wrong. And he knew he was getting sent off the moment the whistle was blown - if he thought it was a dive he would have made sure the ref knew it. So I think that decision is fine.

MRP won't do anything about the numerous SFC dives though, I guarantee it. Absolutely disgusting team. I'd rather get the wooden spoon than support a team acting like that.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Luckily the FFA put a stop to players diving when they gave Perez a two match suspension.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

He won't put a cent into the club any more, he is solely concerned with getting his investment back from the coe.

If that were the case he would simp;y hand the licence back.

 

[true believer]

Luckily the FFA put a stop to players diving when they gave Perez a two match suspension.

Gee thats a line wamsley should quote next time we play the sydney

 

[Wombat]

1 min in we leave a Sydney player unmarked and he heads against the crossbar.
3 min. Fitz gives ball away cheaply.
11 min. Rose loses the ball. 5 players stand off or fail to pick up. 2 beats 5.
Izzo does very poorly 1.0.

14 min. Roux caught 20 yards away from his player.
15 min. Liam Rose leaves a Sydney player unmarked on the edge of the box. Thankfully Sydney butcher the opportunity.
19 min. Caceras looses the ball under no pressure.
20 min. J.Rose receives no call from his keeper and heads the ball out needlessly for a corner.
22min. McGing puts himself in trouble needlessly and gives away a penalty. Poor decision by Stooge Williams.
Izzo gets sent off when he completely misjudged a through ball. Dubious penalty and second yellow.
38 min. Sim great cross and good header by Ascroft.
41 superb ball out by our new 12yo keeper. They boy looks a better prospect than Izzo.
56. Roux finally gets goal side and prevents a goal. Not rocket science is it Storm??
58. Min. J.Rose passes to no one.
71. Monty sets an example for the whole team. This bloke is a legend.
74. hoole is left unmarked in six yard box and misses an open goal
82. Caceras loses the ball under no pressure.

 

[FFC Mariner]

If that were the case he would simp;y hand the licence back.

Can't until coe is finished can he?

 

[marinersince2006]

Experienced leaders. Monty and JRose.

Great experienced balanced coaching team.

Do we really think Liam/Eddy would have provided role models/leadership to youngest ALEAGUE squad?If EB was a Wilko/MileJ/Hutcho/Brosq.......I would have expected him to support the coaching leadership group and wait for his opportunity. Injuries and rest needed for all the youngsters.Surely EB would have seen that he would have got opportunities to play?show his leadership by supporting the coaching leadership......and I am sure a new contract would have been put on the table. Or maybe EB had other longer or more lucrative contracts on the table and he actually wanted to leave.EB has an amazing CV.Maybe by being patient he would have been able to add to his CV.Right now his reputation is being tarnished.Hopefully EB finds a new club and gets a new contract as quickly as LR.

Amazing to think LR could be number 1 goalkeeper at WSW.....taking over from Redmayne who I think was our under 21 goalkeeper 08/09 and kept Ryan on the bench.

We would like to think we have a new Matty Ryan emerge over the next 1/6 weeks. The refs won't see the way he will be targeted by opposition players while Izzo is away.Another youngster getting an amazing opportunity.......and maybe a 900k transfer fee for us in the next 1/2 seasons. Who would have thought LR departure would have given us a new Matt Ryan.

Would Liam/Eddy made a difference to our results? Liam for sure/yes.

Eddy maybe? Eddy has an amazing CV.But he seemed to lose his footing/go to ground too often last season.Posc/McGing/Harry have great talent and great futures.

Both LR and EB need to write to Roar with their side of the divorce.!maybe confidentiality agreements are in place?Maybe we have to wait for their books!

Our club needs to counter the leaking and off the record briefing to the ex player media.On the podcast with MC we can ask him.A great script was already written on one of the threads last week.

If we could have handled LR and EB careers better. Or if we made a few mistakes/errors of judgement then MC needs to set the record straight.

As fans we loved LR and EB over the last 2 seasons. We only saw them play and make miracle saves and score amazing goals against the jets.

Our CCM history has another juicy chapter for the secret writer to finalize.

 

[Spacks]

We would like to think we have a new Matty Ryan emerge over the next 1/6 weeks. The refs won't see the way he will be targeted by opposition players while Izzo is away.Another youngster getting an amazing opportunity.......and maybe a 900k transfer fee for us in the next 1/2 seasons. Who would have thought LR departure would have given us a new Matt Ryan.

Lol after 1 game? Cmon.

 

[FFC Mariner]

"Would Liam/Eddy made a difference to our results? Liam for sure/yes."

Are you for real? - read the character assessment. That was written by someone with no axe to grind and showed him for who he is.

As for Bosnar? Shit attitude when he played against us in the ACL, abused his own fans, part of the worst CB pairing I have seen for years alongside Andershite. Not exactly the quality individual you want around younger players is he?

We are far better off with them gone (more to follow allegedly) - we just needed to recruit experienced leaders to replace them and we arent going to

 

[Wombat]

Simon hit Ascroft in the head - clear red, but that muppet Williams let it go

It was McGing.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Simon hit Ascroft in the head - clear red, but that muppet Williams let it go

I can accept that he didn't see it.....but that's amateur stuff; you simply don't take your eyes off the players when there's a crowd running away from the goal like that. This is the exact reason why.
But we also have 4 officials. The near AR 100% should have been watching and alerted the referee. for something this serious, even the far AR or the 4th official should have - and all 3 of the other officials should be constantly scanning the players. Several of the officials should have seen it - no excuse - and with wireless communications it should make it very easy to bring this to the referee's attention. I have absolutely no idea what the wireless comms actually get used for, given the number of grievous errors that are still occurring. As a former referee's assessor I'd be holding all 4 officials accountable for that. But I think referee assessors in the HAL are a joke, judging by the sort of stuff referees seem to get away with (and judging by the crap I've heard some of them say).