Turbulence (then calm sailing, then turbulence) thread.

[Gratis]

Surely FIFA would have to sanction such a thing (and almost definitely wouldn't)?

 

[VicMariner]

Surely FIFA would have to sanction such a thing (and almost definitely wouldn't)?

Pay the right people and FIFA will sanction anything.....even a WC in Qatar.

 

[sydmariner]

Pay the right people and FIFA will sanction anything.....even a WC in Qatar.

 

[Gratis]

hehe, true

 

[nearlyyellow]

Never happen to The World Game. RL is a minor sport played by just a few countries, no matter how they try to amp it up. Interesting concept though. If anyone would give it a go it would be the Yanks, I would have thought.

 

[adz]

Never happen to The World Game. RL is a minor sport played by just a few countries, no matter how they try to amp it up. Interesting concept though. If anyone would give it a go it would be the Yanks, I would have thought.

Funny you should say that. I think they're a few steps ahead of us on that one!

http://qz.com/150577/an-average-nfl-game-more-than-100-commercials-and-just-11-minutes-of-play/

An average NFL game: more than 100 commercials and just 11 minutes of play

For five months of the year, the National Football League dominates Sundays in the United States; it’s more popular than church.

The NFL’s popularity is all the more remarkable when you inspect the fare it has to offer each week on television. An average professional football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes.

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Part of the discrepancy has to do with the basic rules of American football. Unlike hockey or basketball, the 60-minute game clock in football can run even when the ball is not in play. That means a lot of game time is spent standing around or huddling up before each play begins.

The 11 minutes of action was famously calculated a few years ago by the Wall Street Journal. Its analysis found that an average NFL broadcast spent more time on replays (17 minutes) than live play. The plurality of time (75 minutes) was spent watching players, coaches, and referees essentially loiter on the field.

An average play in the NFL lasts just four seconds.

Of course, watching football on TV is hardly just about the game; there are plenty of advertisements to show people, too. The average NFL game includes 20 commercial breaks containing more than 100 ads. The Journal’s analysis found that commercials took up about an hour, or one-third, of the game.

Football’s stop-and-go nature makes it particularly prime for commercials, unlike soccer, which forces broadcasters to creatively insert ads during the 45 minutes of continuous play in each half. Broadcasts of NFL games in Europe, incidentally, include far fewer commercials.

 

[MrCelery]

Just an idea

If the NRL's idea is to put more breaks in so they can have more ads, why stop at quarters... why not go all the way for maximum $$$ profit

Won't work for football. But great idea for the NRL, as everyone knows that the ads are better than the game anyway!

 

[Bladesman]

Never happen to The World Game. RL is a minor sport played by just a few countries, no matter how they try to amp it up. Interesting concept though. If anyone would give it a go it would be the Yanks, I would have thought.

They change to rules of NRL every week during the season anyway and already have different rules beteen NRL and Super League.

Will never happen is Football although we will probably see Charlesworth calling for it or even a 3 hour half time so we can play the first half in Gosford and the second half on a cricket pitch.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Yes, there is logic behind the quarters idea. For Football we could have 4 x 25 min. quarters with maybe a 5 min. 1st. and 3rd. break and the halftime break 10 mins. Could work! Would mean a real traffic jam at the bar in the 1st & 3rd. breaks though.

Could make it a faster game too, as players won't be going more than 25min without rest and rehydration, so they may get the opportunity to reenergise more.

 

[nearlyyellow]

Could make it a faster game too, as players won't be going more than 25min without rest and rehydration, so they may get the opportunity to reenergise more.

And here's a radical idea. We have 4 + 1 on the bench but what if we have unlimited use of the interchange bench! As many offs and ons as you like! How about that?

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Pfft, that doesn't seem to make O35 games play any faster

 

[sydmariner]

And here's a radical idea. We have 4 + 1 on the bench but what if we have unlimited use of the interchange bench! As many offs and ons as you like! How about that?

i always had that rule when i played soccer as a kid but it's a good idea

 

[sydmariner]

Funny you should say that. I think they're a few steps ahead of us on that one!

http://qz.com/150577/an-average-nfl-game-more-than-100-commercials-and-just-11-minutes-of-play/

NFL isn't even football cos they don't even use there feet

 

[Atomic]

NFL isn't even football cos they don't even use there feet

What… so they run around on their knees?

 

[MagpieMariner]

I can just see football working like NFL:

Work the ball into a scoring position
The team runs off
The striker and his special team runs on (while the defenders stand around & watch)
The striker shoots
The striker and his special team run off & the playing team runs back on
The game continues.

No I can't see that, perhaps I should have more vodka.

 

[sydmariner]

I can just see football working like NFL:

Work the ball into a scoring position
The team runs off
The striker and his special team runs on (while the defenders stand around & watch)
The striker shoots
The striker and his special team run off & the playing team runs back on
The game continues.

No I can't see that, perhaps I should have more vodka.

& when they score they celebrate like a complete douchebag

 

[MagpieMariner]

& when they score they celebrate like a complete douchebag

I can understand that, when you don't do it very often.

 

[elevated position]

Now back on track.
IF CCMFC were looking at becoming a community based setup the people behind this should look at the Melbourne Victory setup and include this as part of the overall structure.(very powerful finacialy)

Another point not discussed is in the AFL they subsidize regional teams (Swans etc) with extra funds so they can compete which would make sense for the existing regional clubs like the Mariners ,Newcastle and in the past the Fury.
Something like the Cap plus $500.000 to cover coaching staff etc to be paid by FFA under the same structure. This would also allow expansion to take place with a bit more certainty of survival. Thoughts?

 

[nearlyyellow]

Another point not discussed is in the AFL they subsidize regional teams (Swans etc) with extra funds so they can compete which would make sense for the existing regional clubs like the Mariners ,Newcastle and in the past the Fury.
Something like the Cap plus $500.000 to cover coaching staff etc to be paid by FFA under the same structure. This would also allow expansion to take place with a bit more certainty of survival. Thoughts?

I've mentioned this previously and I think it is the only way smaller regional clubs will manage to survive in the bigger picture. Similarly start up clubs could get an extra grant for a specified period of time to enable them to become established. But this kind of thing will meet with huge opposition from the already established big city clubs.

 

[dibo]

The AFL has a range of tools at its disposal. It's less about funding 'regional' teams than funding weaker teams (which for them is actually the small Melbourne clubs and Port Adelaide more than anything). The tools include:

• The standard club distribution (plus accommodation subsidies for Sydney-based players)
• The salary cap (plus accommodation allowance for Sydney-based players)
• The draft
• The 'club future fund' which subsidises poorer clubs
• a 'soft cap' on non-player football department spending (any spending over the 'cap' is subject to a 'luxury tax' that is redistributed among the other clubs)

We don't need an accommodation subsidy; if anything we're a beneficiary of affordable housing. Consider what $500/wk gets you in Terrigal vs Coogee.

We're not going to see a draft in the A-League and we already have a standard distribution and a salary cap, but the other measures are interesting.

The club future fund is a fund that ensures that weaker clubs don't cark it. They know they need the little clubs too because their currency with broadcasters is content. It works because the other clubs are broadly profitable, in Collingwood's case ludicrously so.

The luxury tax is to stop the Collingwoods and Sydneys of the AFL from spending shedloads on their football departments and doing space age stuff while the Western Bulldogs are still banging rocks together (figuratively). It's an attempt to maintain some competitive balance.

Given that at least half of the league's clubs will break even or post a profit this year and even financial basketcase Sydney will break even next year, we're in a position where these things ought to be considered. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link - having small clubs *at least* stable means that we have a healthy league, it will encourage new investors and new clubs and we grow the pie.