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RND 13 PERTH

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
serious14 said:
Fine...... by popular demand.  Note, may be accentuated for comic value:

From my friends at "The Oxford Dictionary".

Football player

noun - an athlete who engages in the game of football

Football

Noun - a game played between two teams of 11 players, in which the ball may be advanced by kicking or by bouncing it off any part of the body but the arms and hands, except in the case of the goalkeepers, who may use their hands to catch, carry, throw, or stop the ball

Now, what's wrong with this picture, and 'my mate Hutch'.

i). NOT ONE F*CKING TIME YESTERDAY DID THE USELESS BARGEARSE _ADVANCE_ THE BALL UP THE FIELD.  

ii).  FALLING ON THE BALL AND MOANING TO THE REF DOES NOT CONSITUTE "PLAYING THE BALL WITH ANY PART OF THE BODY EXCLUDING ARMS, YOU F*CKING TWAT!!!!

iii). an athlete he may be, but was he engaged in the game of football??  No sirree bob.  And that attempted "goal line clearance".  Ffs.......... I thought we called that 'near post defending', not "near post own goaling".  GET RID OF THE BALL OUT OF YOU OWN AREA, IT'S AN ELEMENTAL PART OF THE GAME!!!!!   :fireup:

Now, our friend, heart of the team, truth-balcony-debunker - he once again took his spot in a faux LM-CM yesterday.   Common wisdom in football might suggest that aside from the goalie, one of the most important positions on the field is that of a central midfielder (for those just joining us, CM = central midfielder).  A position where one is required to defend when needed, and become the fulcrum of around half of the attack (the rest being spread down the wings).  Now, when we're engaged in the shit we played yesterday (more on the "tactics" later - seriously Lawrie, wtf??), that is completely nullified, and we come to a situation where we find that the 10 minutes of the game where we feel like playing the ball on the ground, we need a player who _promotes_ attack, who is worthy of such an important position on the team.

Andre Gumprecht I hear you cry??   Nope, relegated to the bench (that off season business perhaps??   Not enough gametime??  Who knows - all we care about is results _on_ the park)

Tommy Pondeljak??  Nope, we sold him to Melbourne.  F*CKING OOPS!!!!!

Greg Owens??   Nup, injured (can't blame anyone for that, but he'd be better than the dross Hutcho is serving up).

Adrian Caceres??   Nah, he's too busy being wasted in one of the worst tactical deployments I've ever seen Lawrie engage in.   Not that it was rectified yesterday at all........ at any stage........ not even after it was painfully obvious by about the 20 minute mark that he was being kept out of the game and was DESPERATE to return to a roaming role behind the strikers.

Instead, we are left with a slow, defensive liability who does nothing but fall on his arse and cry when the referee doesn't give him a free kick, WHO BRINGS _NOTHING_ TO OUR ATTACK!!!!!      NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!

WHY DOES THIS SITUATION PERSIST WEEK IN, WEEK OUT??   I DON'T GIVE A FLYING f**k IF HE'S THE HEART OF THE TEAM - IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THIS HEART HAS CANCER, AND IT NEEDS AN URGENT TRANSPLANT FOR A PLAYER WHO _HAS_ HEART, WHO _HAS_ SOMETHING TO OFFER AND WHO LOOKS LIKE HE GIVES A FLYING F*CK WHETHER WE WIN A GAME OR NOT.

AND MOST OF ALL, WHO KNOWS HOW TO PASS THE F*CKING FOOTBALL THE F*CK FORWARD!!!!!!!

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HUTCHO OUT, GUMPS IN!!!!!!!   Surely even you most ardent of Hutcho supporters can see that this situation has moved from a joke I used to have with a few of my mates in the bay to something that everyone in the Kendall (excepting Table Trollop, but they're just twits  :p  Secret confessions post game reveal they feel the game way!!!  :eek:) last night (one or two exceptions, as always) commented on, to the point of UptheGuts staging an impromptu vote of "Hutcho out", with a lot of people agreeing.

This is the Spencer situation all over.   BUT, he contributed something to our attack, even if 90% of his passes were backwards....... his free kicks, whilst not dynamite, gave us _something_.  And another tall presence in the box. 

Look, this might be a comedic rant, but I'm making a serious (HA!!!) point here.  For the good of the team, Hutcho needs a spell on the bench, or in the youth team.  If only to give him a solid kick up the arse and make him realise that his "contributions" on the field are nothing short of "diabolically wasteful".

As for Lawrie's "tactics" last night.......

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Oh, you wanted an actual dissection of those??  :p

What's to say??  Lawrie strikes me lately (well, most of last season and all of this) as a reactive manager these days, and it's not a situation that suits us well.   Waiting until the 78th minute before a tactical change (substitution or formation shuffle, either way) isn't good enough.

Cast an eye towards Asia people - if we played like we did yesterday in Asia against say, Gamba Osaka, in Japan......... could you seriously imagine what the score would be??   *shudders*

I might seem like a negative ranter all the time, but I love this team just as much as the rest of you, and I just want us to play to our full potential.   At the moment, we aren't really near that, but we're not that far away.  Football might seem like a complicated game, but only if you make it so.  It's 22 blokes chasing a ball around a park for 90 minutes.  Keep the ball on the ground, offer something off the ball, change the game to suit us, not wait for the game to change on us.  Etc. and so forth.

Oh, and sack Hutch.  :p


A literary diatribe of "Seriously" magnificent proportions...someone email The Guv a copy...
 

Blackadder

Well-Known Member
And Hutch is the only one that is not playing up to the expectations of some, or are they exempt from any criticism?
 

Blackadder

Well-Known Member
woodchuck said:
Granted, but wouldn't you rather be on the edge of your seat for the whole 90mins, where the team is trying to play good football, rather than 'long ball', on Sat night, count how many times we complete a pass, if we get to 6 I bet we create a chance.  We wonder why crowds are down.  I don't.

Credit has to go to Perth for the pressure that was placed on the mariners when they had the ball, they were prepared to fight and scrap for the ball in the challenges something that the Mariners could of taken a lesson in.
When you see players seemingly jogging back in defence (no not hutch), then questions have to be asked are they fully fit, or just going through the motions and need a kick up the arse.
 

Blackadder

Well-Known Member
Well here are the pics of the Pre game meet up, and pics from the game vs Perth
Many thanks to Lamese and Mick for the free ticket, and to anyone that gets the chance to got to Perth for a game it is well worth it, the Shed guys and girls are great to catch up with and so welcoming.
Just have to watch out for the Squadrunt Wannabes' (Isn't that right Drew  :piralaugh:)

(Just Click on the pics for a larger image)

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serious14

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scottmac said:
serious14 said:
If and/or when we play well, won't it be a bit boring??   :p

I'm sure you will find something serious, we can't play perfect football for 90 mins can we?

Pretty sure no team can..... it's a very rare occasion that happens (most prominent example I can think of is ManYoo vs. Aston Villa last season when we demolished them 4-0 playing some of the most :eek: football I've ever seen)

Blackadder - did you not read my post on the other page where I dissected the entire team??  The only reason I'm "picking" on Hutcho is because he's playing far worse than anyone else on the team at the moment.  Y'dig??
 

Blackadder

Well-Known Member
Serious didn't say you are "picking on" Hutch, but others are under performing as much as him IMHO but seems Hutch is the forum whipping boy.
 

David Votoupal

Well-Known Member
serious14 said:
Pretty sure no team can..... it's a very rare occasion that happens (most prominent example I can think of is ManYoo vs. Aston Villa last season when we demolished them 4-0 playing some of the most :eek: football I've ever seen)

I've seen enough examples of teams playing football to perfection but you need really good players and/or a damn good manager to make it possible.

Blackadder - did you not read my post on the other page where I dissected the entire team??  The only reason I'm "picking" on Hutcho is because he's playing far worse than anyone else on the team at the moment.  Y'dig??

Hutchinson did well in his first few seasons, did he not? Or is it that he's been found out this season?
 

Bear

Well-Known Member
Blackadder said:
Serious didn't say you are "picking on" Hutch, but others are under performing as much as him IMHO but seems Hutch is the forum whipping boy.

Obviously ::) in Serious's honest opinion, nobody is under performing as much as hutch, hence his rant

sheesh
 

bjw

bjw
serious14 said:
scottmac said:
serious14 said:
If and/or when we play well, won't it be a bit boring??   :p

I'm sure you will find something serious, we can't play perfect football for 90 mins can we?

Pretty sure no team can..... it's a very rare occasion that happens (most prominent example I can think of is ManYoo vs. Aston Villa last season when we demolished them 4-0 playing some of the most :eek: football I've ever seen)

It wasnt 90 minutes.. but last season (I think it was), Man Utd v Newcastle United.
0-0 at half time. 6-0 full time. :eek:
 

shipwreck

Well-Known Member
Did anyone else notice Wilko fall over ever so gimpishly infront of Nikita for Perths second goal? Cant help but wonder if he would of gotten his foot to it in time if he managed the difficult task of maintaining a vertical position, then again, Wilkinsons positioning lately hasnt been his greatest strength anyway!
 

MattSimon

Well-Known Member
Hutcho becoming the forum whipping boy just enhances his cult hero status in my opinion. Add to that the now infamous "hard enough" incident. The guy is a living legend of Matt Simon proportions. Instead of dropping Hutch to the bench or youth team, toss the guy the captain's armband next round.
 

Razorback

Well-Known Member
MattSimon said:
toss the guy the captain's armband next round.

Or toss him up to Nth Qld. I'm sure Fergie will take him...

As for Wilko... I'm sure he would play better with someone experienced next to him, no disrespect to boogs because he is a gun and I'm sure it would assist him as well, but in a seriousness they are just not cutting it together as a partnership.

Hopefully Lawrie can make an intellegent signing prior to the ACL. I'd be interested to see if there any experienced CB's from Sheff Utd that we could perhaps get on loan.

It makes me wonder just how good we would be going this year if we could defend, because everyone knows we can score goals... Its quite frustrating to think about.
 

tuftman

Well-Known Member
dru said:
MattSimon said:
Bring back the Beauchamp

Might be a unique double. playing ACL and UCL in one year.

Only player I can think of who might have gone close would be Rivaldo, he played UCL last season and ACL this season, or have I got that wrong?
 

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