R17: Mariners V Perth

[Pirate Pete]

Terrible review by Fox Sports (they somehow think Buhagiar should have been sent off):
http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...d/news-story/26548023151523d5025c6ccf59a8a59e

I was at the game and I was listening to the radio when Trent got booked.
They also thought he was lucky not to get a red.
I too thought it was strange that Risdon wasn't even booked for the handball. Deliberate handball is a bookable offence.
I'm pretty sure the Sydney player (Rhyan Grant?) wasn't booked when he gave the penalty away against us. I know the rule
has changed about sending people off at penalties, but I would at least expect a player to get a booking.
Just to clarify, opposition players that is, not ours.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

I'm pretty sure the Sydney player (Rhyan Grant?) wasn't booked when he gave the penalty away against us. I know the rule
has changed about sending people off at penalties, but I would at least expect a player to get a booking.
Just to clarify, opposition players that is, not ours.

Don't recall. Only a booking if it's breaking up an attack (and just because it's in the PA doesn't mean that's happening), or it's denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity but is a genuine attempt on the ball, and isn't an exempt category like holding.

Most penalties don't require a card of any colour, and didn't before.

Deliberate handball is a bookable offence.

No, 'deliberately handles the ball' is just the foul. Doesn't matter how blatant it is (so you know those ones where a player gets the shits after being knocked over and slaps the ball away? Not a card unless it's breaking up an attack) - only a yellow if it's breaking up an attack, attempting (and failing) to stop a goal, or attempting to score a goal (doesn't matter if it's accidental - no foul - and does one of those things. No foul is no foul).
I've even had a few instances where somebody has jumped up to catch the ball to stop it rolling down the hill, thinking it's out, except they're still 2 yards in - and players are screaming for a booking for 'deliberate handball'. No way champ!
Can't remember the grade....sounds very O/35 ish...lol
This one was a clear DOGSO though, mandatory red card. No argument.
If, for some reason, the ref is too gutless for that, you'd have to agree it's at least breaking up an attack, so a mandatory YC. Ref completely mucked that one up.
And the new law about DOGSO not always being a red card doesn't apply to deliberate handling.
But when all the referees are miked up, even if the referee has had a brain explosion and just forgotten it's a card, didn't one of the other 3 say something?

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

A-League website wrap:
http://www.a-league.com.au/article/...th-glory-in-gosford/a210yc3nrk4m143xzckqijeh8

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Something else I was thinking of - after the 2 seasons we've had, the fact that our boys turn up and still give a shit - heck, are currently showing more passion, pride and excitement than when we were higher on the ladder in previous years - is amazing, and a real testament to the leadership of Monty and Okon. And I'm proud of our fans too, for still being passionate.
And I have so much respect for him after that cheeky wave to Reddy (after the gobful Reddy gave him, most other players would have just stormed after him, chest bumping him and yelling 'you wot, mate?').

 

[Spacks]

How good does it feel to have hope again? Feels Good Man.

McGing did really well I thought in the DM position alongside Monty. I feel a lot more comfortable with Posco in the back four and McGing further up the field. Not sure how I feel about Rosey playing in the back, but he did ok.

Fabs did brilliantly, as did Bingas and Budgie (budgerigar lol). Highlight of the match was Reddy gettin sent off the field to the crowd booing.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Highlights from the game:
http://www.ccmariners.com.au/video/mariners-v-glory-highlights/12j0gosh4ua9y1v8av55suoyf6

 

[Wombat]

How good does it feel to have hope again? Feels Good Man.

McGing did really well I thought in the DM position alongside Monty. I feel a lot more comfortable with Posco in the back four and McGing further up the field. Not sure how I feel about Rosey playing in the back, but he did ok.

Fabs did brilliantly, as did Bingas and Budgie (budgerigar lol). Highlight of the match was Reddy gettin sent off the field to the crowd booing.

I thought Rose was more solid than McGing and Ascroft......but i'd like to see the game again. We were all at sea 2or 3 times but i think it was Roux on walkabout as usual but i need to see the tape first

 

[Big Al]

CENTRAL Coast Mariners boss Paul Okon has reiterated his club’s desire to re-sign Irish striker Roy O’Donovan, though he admits it may not happen quickly.

Buoyed by his side’s third win of the season, defeating Perth 3-0 in Gosford, which came in the striker’s absence through a one-match ban, Okon said that talks to get O’Donovan to stay at the Mariners had begun.

“I stay out of that stuff but I am aware that the club has started discussions with Roy and Roy’s agent,” Okon said.

Was below your article JP after Tony Popovic giving ball to roar for them to score on the throw in

 

[Big Al]

Haven't watched replays yet but at the ground.

1.Trent came in on the side and just missed taking his legs out and looked like the follow through is what caught Trent. Not a great looking tackle though and last year these were red cards to us. Fab and Austin got them for similar tackles.

2. Posco looked very red studs up around the knee

3. Reddy card defender was nowhere near Trent or ball good couple meters. Was never getting the ball and as captain explained doesn't matter

 

[Wombat]

Video doesn't show it very well but his kick hits Trents ankles and the ground where the video doesn't have the ability to pick it up. The fall from Trent says it all, that's not a fall of a guy who is diving but someone tripped.
Reddy was going off but that's standard.
Incident happened not to far away from me and Trent had no reason to try win a free kick with an open goal awaiting.

Clear foul.

 

[style_cafe]

I`ve missed the last few games but that was sensational.
It was just so good to get a win & to get the side off the spoon.
Most of what has been written above goes without saying.
Although I thought Posco played like he hadn`t missed a game all season & for mine
I also thought McGing was brilliant & played the best that i`ve seen him play.

FP brought up a very good point also in regards to Budgie, that being the constant playing the ball into the defender.
It was frustrating that most of his attempts to cross the ball were thwarted by his inability to beat the last defender.
I`m sure he`ll work on this, just a feint occasionally or a touch across the line of the defenders run will reap rewards for him.

Lastly Monty should have a statue erected at the front gates when he retires.
What an inspirational leader!
Clearly one of the greatest ever Mariner`s players. (even though the corner kicks are crap)

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Phil Moss on Foxsports news
"I'm not going to air dirty laundry but I do know the goings on behind the scenes or much of it. The history of to why they are not shaking hands and why Nick Montgomery waved Liam off when he hit his red card.
BUT what I will say is this. Liam has made a stance, and on the information I have I back Liam Reedy in this situation, um and he's an honest guy and he's decided he's not going to forgive or forget something has happened behind the scenes at the Mariners while he was there. I back Liam 100%."

Heard on good authority that Reddy was a bully. I have no time for bullies, nor should you Phil.

But hey why should we believe the club, or Walmsley – say what you like about him as a coach, but he was clearly one of the nicest guys in the league – or what about upstanding players and people like Hutch and Monty... nah... Much more likely that the player with the worst off field history of any player still in the HAL, that we signed on probation, who is well on his way to having been booted from every single club in the league, was simply being a model player for us and in this particular instance took a righteous stance in the name of all that is just and good in the world and was wrongly persecuted... so we should back him "100%"! errrm in what exactly Phil? His DEMONSTRABLY UNSPORTSMANLIKE behaviour?

Have you even thought about what you're actually doing Phil? You're defending a professional sportsman for acting in an unsportsmanlike manner. Even if a kid deliberately fouls your kid, would you support your kid in refusing to shake his hand?

If Reddy just stopped acting like a tool, and shook hands like any adult and professional should be able to, there would be no issue, and maybe just maybe people might even consider his side of the story. But if his history doesn't damn him, his actions certainly do.

But hey I'll still give you the benefit of the doubt Phil. Because it's not like you have anything you could possibly be holding against CCM.

I can't believe FOX sports management continues to allow anyone to rubbish 10% of their product because they have personal axes to grind. It's become truly pathetic. Unwilling to put their butt-hurt aside to do their job properly, let alone for the good of the league. No all the different players, all the fans, all the CCM staff, they all deserve to see you guys lay the boot into their club at any chance you get. You were shit. You were replaced by someone who was also shit. So what. Get over it.

I had respect for these people once upon a time. But they're showing themselves to be vindictive little men of even smaller character.

 

[shipwreck]

Heard on good authority that Reddy was a bully. I have no time for bullies, nor should you Phil.

But hey why should we believe the club, or Walmsley – say what you like about him as a coach, but he was clearly one of the nicest guys in the league – or what about upstanding players and people like Hutch and Monty... nah... Much more likely that the player with the worst off field history of any player still in the HAL, that we signed on probation, who is well on his way to having been booted from every single club in the league, was simply being a model player for us and in this particular instance took a righteous stance in the name of all that is just and good in the world and was wrongly persecuted... so we should back him "100%"! errrm in what exactly Phil? His DEMONSTRABLY UNSPORTSMANLIKE behaviour?

Have you even thought about what you're actually doing Phil? You're defending a professional sportsman for acting in an unsportsmanlike manner. Even if a kid deliberately fouls your kid, would you support your kid in refusing to shake his hand?

If Reddy just stopped acting like a tool, and shook hands like any adult and professional should be able to, there would be no issue, and maybe just maybe people might even consider his side of the story. But if his history doesn't damn him, his actions certainly do.

But hey I'll still give you the benefit of the doubt Phil. Because it's not like you have anything you could possibly be holding against CCM.

I can't believe FOX sports management continues to allow anyone to rubbish 10% of their product because they have personal axes to grind. It's become truly pathetic. Unwilling to put their butt-hurt aside to do their job properly, let alone for the good of the league. No all the different players, all the fans, all the CCM staff, they all deserve to see you guys lay the boot into their club at any chance you get. You were shit. You were replaced by someone who was also shit. So what. Get over it.

I had respect for these people once upon a time. But they're showing themselves to be vindictive little men of even smaller character.

This is genuinely the best post I have read for years, well done.

I found myself nodding in agreement enthusiastically the whole time!

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

The ABC's review of the game:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-28/central-coast-mariners-beat-perth-glory-in-a-league/8220336

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Review of our game and the other game that night by goal.com:
http://www.goal.com/en-au/match/brisbane-roar-vs-western-sydney-wanderers/2238960/report

 

[Big Al]

Heard on good authority that Reddy was a bully. I have no time for bullies, nor should you Phil.

But hey why should we believe the club, or Walmsley – say what you like about him as a coach, but he was clearly one of the nicest guys in the league – or what about upstanding players and people like Hutch and Monty... nah... Much more likely that the player with the worst off field history of any player still in the HAL, that we signed on probation, who is well on his way to having been booted from every single club in the league, was simply being a model player for us and in this particular instance took a righteous stance in the name of all that is just and good in the world and was wrongly persecuted... so we should back him "100%"! errrm in what exactly Phil? His DEMONSTRABLY UNSPORTSMANLIKE behaviour?

Have you even thought about what you're actually doing Phil? You're defending a professional sportsman for acting in an unsportsmanlike manner. Even if a kid deliberately fouls your kid, would you support your kid in refusing to shake his hand?

If Reddy just stopped acting like a tool, and shook hands like any adult and professional should be able to, there would be no issue, and maybe just maybe people might even consider his side of the story. But if his history doesn't damn him, his actions certainly do.

But hey I'll still give you the benefit of the doubt Phil. Because it's not like you have anything you could possibly be holding against CCM.

I can't believe FOX sports management continues to allow anyone to rubbish 10% of their product because they have personal axes to grind. It's become truly pathetic. Unwilling to put their butt-hurt aside to do their job properly, let alone for the good of the league. No all the different players, all the fans, all the CCM staff, they all deserve to see you guys lay the boot into their club at any chance you get. You were shit. You were replaced by someone who was also shit. So what. Get over it.

I had respect for these people once upon a time. But they're showing themselves to be vindictive little men of even smaller character.

Just clicked reading that FP
Remember Rudan assassination on a certain Montgomery tackle last year.
Pick up our sides.
I've got my Aussie mate Monty

Josh Rose was at the game as well hanging out with the Reddy family and heading to his place after the game. He and Reddy are really tight.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Lady on clubs FB ranting about the chants in bay 16. Wasn't that bad was it? I've heard far worse.

 

[Big Al]

Lady on clubs FB ranting about the chants in bay 16. Wasn't that bad was it? I've heard far worse.

Was it Mrs Reddy?

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Interview with Monty by the Sydney Morning Herald about the game and Liam Reddy:
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...ontgomery-and-liam-reddy-20170129-gu0t0c.html

 

[Pirate Pete]

Lady on clubs FB ranting about the chants in bay 16. Wasn't that bad was it? I've heard far worse.

I don't look on the facebook page. Was it the chanting when Reddy got sent off?

Some of the language I've heard at games I would say is disgusting. I did write to the club a few seasons ago.
Pointing out that the security would step in Bay 16. But bad language in other parts of the ground went unpunished.
One particular time sat near the half way line I got up and moved. I know at least one person complained to security
about two blokes but nothing was done.

*just an edit to say if it was the Reddy chant I wouldn't count that as disgusting.