Player movements 2013/2014

[Gratis]

also from sbs
“I am turning towards Africa where the market is cheap and there is plentiful talent,” added Arnold. “I think we will find some decent players there. It’s something worth exploring.”

 

[12th player]

Flores is a decent player, but honestly, he just doesn't seem like a fit for us. And I'm not talking the NDHP, it's just the mentaility. I actually hope we just promote caceres and sign someone else young and promising from somewhere in Oz, ala Musti, ala Tommy, ala Bernie, ala whoever's next...

I totally agree with your comments regarding Flores.I believe we already have that style of player in young Caceres. With a good pre season, he will end up being our future AM. He's a better player than Flores and many others mentioned in previous comments. Plus, he won't cost as much.

In regards to promising players that might be useful, I liked number 26 of the CCMA: I think his name is Ridge Mapu ( don't know his age ).He plays RWB ( Pedj's position ). He's strong, fast and decent in possesion.IMO, he might be a better option than young Morton.

 

[Big Al]

If Lucas wants to play in the World Cup he will probably have to sign with wsw or ccm, with ACL bonus games at the end of the season getting him close to June. Not a lot of European teams will be interested in him and the timing will be out with most Asian leagues. Can see FFA paying for him to play at wsw. If he comes here t-stain plays right back which in the longer term will be his best position

Lucas has stated he won't be signing anywhere until after the qualifiers because the qualifiers will determine where he goes.
If we make it - No A-League wants to play in a league than goes longer & closer to Brazil kickoff
If we fail - A-League would probably be his choice (He didn't say that but implied it when saying no to A-League if we qualify

 

[Big Al]

I reckon Contiki should sponsor the mariners as we are basically a world wide football travel agent for the 18-35's.

Stop in at our agency for a year or two & see which part of the world you end up.

Ibini wanted a European holiday - But got sold an Asian get away -
Ryan - Found Europe appealing

Plenty of options - We will find a package that suits you

Disclaimer* UK Lower leagues are for losers we don't do tours there we leave that to other operators.

 

[midfielder]

With Arnie calling for six overseas players or al least asking can we have six ... can we assume the youth team does not yet have the talent to step up and he has some people in mind... seems somewhat a different position because he was calling on other A-League clubs to player youth players rather than go overseas only a few weeks ago...

 

[true believer]

Not a bad idea - probably not in great demand, probably suits us better than he ever did MVFC under Ange (can play the 'Rogic' role rather than being shoehorned into a false 9 role behind two wiiiiiiiiide strikers in a counterattacking side), has plenty of technical ability *and* is familiar with the league and our style of play.

i still prefer middy's idea of bresicno .but this guy is a type of player we don't have.
i'd hate to say dibo is the r word. still it's a option worth exploring

 

[dibo]

i still prefer middy's idea of bresicno .but this guy is a type of player we don't have.
i'd hate to say dibo is the r word. still it's a option worth exploring

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I'm always right TB, just sometimes you don't know it yet!

 

[bikinigirl]

With Arnie calling for six overseas players or al least asking can we have six ... can we assume the youth team does not yet have the talent to step up and he has some people in mind... seems somewhat a different position because he was calling on other A-League clubs to player youth players rather than go overseas only a few weeks ago...

. interesting ... we seem to have about 19 players signed/committed (including mcbreen coming back ... but no youth 'keeper)

. we only have two 'foreigners' at the moment (monty & the wee-man) ... so that would indicate all new players signed (including a second 'keeper) would need to come from overseas - no wilko, lucas or schwarzer in this scenario

. if we lose more players however, this will change

 

[Big Al]

. interesting ... we seem to have about 19 players signed/committed (including mcbreen coming back ... but no youth 'keeper)

. we only have two 'foreigners' at the moment (monty & the wee-man) ... so that would indicate all new players signed (including a second 'keeper) would need to come from overseas - no wilko, lucas or schwarzer in this scenario

. if we lose more players however, this will change

Interesting - Would a foreign keeper want to come to CCM to play in the sand while the big boy play - me thinks not - So would seem a new No. 1 might be on the cards then

 

[midfielder]

. interesting ... we seem to have about 19 players signed/committed (including mcbreen coming back ... but no youth 'keeper)

. we only have two 'foreigners' at the moment (monty & the wee-man) ... so that would indicate all new players signed (including a second 'keeper) would need to come from overseas - no wilko, lucas or schwarzer in this scenario

. if we lose more players however, this will change

That is an astute observation BG ...

Arnie says he wants to go to Africa for the new players ....

Showing the SBS article referred to .. http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/a-league/news/1155581/Arnold-seeks-extra-visa-player

A-League Championship-winning coach Graham Arnold wants Football Federation Australia to allow Central Coast Mariners special dispensation for six visa players in 2013-2014 – so it can have a realistic chance of being “competitive next season”.
Arnold, who turned down the manager's job at Sheffield United to remain with the under-financed team he has moulded into a major A-League force, has the backing of owner Mike Charlesworth to lobby for the extra overseas slot as the club reels from its annual player exodus and seeks to ensure it is able to maintain its lofty standards.
The latest player lurking in the Gosford exit lounge is midfielder Oliver Bozanic, who having been linked with the K-League, could now be just days away from sealing a move to the Swiss Super League at an unnamed club for around $300,000.
The departures of the likes of Bernie Ibini, Mat Ryan, Pedj Bojic, Mustafa Amini, Rostyn Griffiths and Alex Wilkinson has raised $4.4 million in the past 15 months at a club which only stayed alive thanks to a cash infusion from Englishman Charlesworth in March – before going on to beat Western Sydney Wanderers in the A-League decider.
Arnold has also been hit with the retirement of Dutch defender Patrick Zwaanswijk and the exit of Golden Boot Daniel McBreen on loan to Ibini’s new club, Shanghai SIPG, until the end of October – four games into the new A-League season.
Western Sydney was allowed six visa slots by FFA in its start-up season and Arnold is keen to harness that precedent.
“It’s going to be a rebuilding year in 2013-2014 and maybe I will ask the FFA for some assistance and we might be allowed to have six foreign players,” he said.
“It’s a concession which West Sydney had so they could be competitive – and I have lost seven players from the grand final starting line-up and maybe they will let us have six foreigners so we are competitive next season.
“There is not much out there locally unless I go for kids, so hopefully I can go for some foreigners. We want to stay strong and keep delivering as people expect us to do, but as things stand that’s going to be a challenge, which is why we may need some assistance.”
The Mariners currently has just two foreigners on its books – New Zealand international Michael McGlinchey and Englishman Nick Montgomery.
Though keen to swell that number, Arnold will work within the existing $2.6 million salary cap.
“If we want to go back-to-back in terms of winning the championship then it’s something we’ll have to look at,” he added. “The other clubs have always lent heavily on foreign players and it’s something that we may now have to look at very seriously.”
Arnold’s preferred destination on a possible talent hunt is Africa – the home of a huge largely untapped football resource in terms of it’s a A-League exposure, other than the obvious examples of Melbourne Victory’s flying left-back Adama Traore who hails from the Ivory Coast and Melbourne Heart’s Iberian utility Patrick Gerhardt.
“I am turning towards Africa where the market is cheap and there is plentiful talent,” added Arnold. “I think we will find some decent players there. It’s something worth exploring.”

 

[Big Al]

What is the break up of age with the currently signed players?

Arnie may have his full quota of young guns & needs more experience to guide them so maybe the shortage is in decent Aussies of a more mature age say 24-27+ - He likes a balance between youth & experience.

While all the guys going o/s are young guns the next crop might not be as promising as those departed or departing hence a need for more imports as the local market are signed or ordinary.

Lost Ibini, Ryan, Rogic & Ollie (looks like a few are more than sniffing around for him) - Of the younger generation hitting maturity + Trent is a ticking time bomb

Lost Pat (Rtd) + McBreen holding on after an awesome season but not getting any younger could be his last if doesn't score as many goals or the Duke or Simon over take him + Mile pretty much the same as McBreen

Think we need more in the 24-30 bracket - could be coming from overseas IMO

 

[bikinigirl]

Arnie says he wants to go to Africa for the new players ....

. methinks this may be the new sustainability model ... we can only afford to lose so many players a year otherwise the local production line cannot keep up

Arnie may have his full quota of young guns & needs more experience to guide them so maybe the shortage is in decent Aussies of a more mature age say 24-27+

. herein lies the problem ... if they were 'decent' aussies they would already be under contract somewhere (with the odd rotation between clubs / players coming back from overseas). if we lose half a dozen or so in one season it makes it tough

. if we are also losing guys in that 24-27ish range at the same time everything is compounded (think wilko & matty at one end, rostyn & ollie at the other)

. so i think the new model is: bring 'unknowns' in from africa, refine them a little and sell them to asia

 

[Roy Law]

Considering Arnie still has three visa spots to fill I think he is having a less than subtle dig at the advantage WSW has over the competition.
I remember Miron trying to bring in three young Africans - one of them might have been Adama Traore? The two others sunk without trace.
Bozanic going will leave a big hole to fill.

 

[bikinigirl]

I remember Miron trying to bring in three young Africans - one of them might have been Adama Traore? The two others sunk without trace.

. my memory is pretty dodgy (and i couldn't be bothered trying to find out) ... but wasn't that under some sort of refugee status - making them 'sort of australian'?

 

[neverwozza]

^that rings a bell

 

[Roy Law]

. my memory is pretty dodgy (and i couldn't be bothered trying to find out) ... but wasn't that under some sort of refugee status - making them 'sort of australian'?

They had problems with their status because they were not deemed not to be of sufficient standard to play in the A League - they originally were going to play NSWPL before moving to Gold Coast. It was a typical inspired bit of Miron thinking with him believing bluster could overcome the immigration department. I think Traore proved himself but the others didn't/ couldn't.

 

[true believer]

the first thing he should ask, is an exception for the Glinch .
for the kiwi's reckon australia is the west island .

 

[adz]

the first thing he should ask, is an exception for the Glinch .
for the kiwi's reckon australia is the west island .

*East Bondi

 

[pjennings]

Considering Arnie still has three visa spots to fill I think he is having a less than subtle dig at the advantage WSW has over the competition.
I remember Miron trying to bring in three young Africans - one of them might have been Adama Traore? The two others sunk without trace.
Bozanic going will leave a big hole to fill.

My first thought.

 

[true believer]

*East Bondi

yuppies booted the kiwi's out long ago.
i use to drink at the "astra" years ago . i saw a bloke pick up a billard ball
and belt a maori with it. the moari just stood there.
his missus jump up and hit the guy with and left,right,left ,right and drop him .
as a 17 year old i thought to myself don't f'k with those people.