Our Beloved Monty

[booney]

C'est la vie.We all move on and with a new coach ( whoever that might be) I am looking forward to the new season and the AFC matches.

Thank you Monty and Serge for your sterling efforts and making the Mariners a club to be respected again( and not forgetting Staj's role)

 

[Tevor]

Also on the replacement coach I doubt it’ll be Talay. He’s good but was playing some pretty negative football at the end with the nix, not sure whether Victory still have him on ice for Poppa or not either.

I believe the slump in the Nix happened as soon as Talay announced he wasn’t staying. Nix should have off loaded him then not allow him to stay there for the remainder of the season. I suspect Talay wants a larger club any way not another oily rag.

 

[Tevor]

I believe the Club wasn’t expecting this move so early like the rest of us and I doubt we have a replacement lined up. Abbas will more than likely be leading the team in our first cup game is my prediction.

 

[Big Al]

How much of a chance does Abbas have to get the gig?

Would be 50% I’d say. Did a terrific job with a bag of steaming shit at the start. Got them high mid table - way higher than Christiansen at WSW.
They beat the league winners Apia I think.
Then lost the A League players and took a couple of weeks to get the team believing again.

Played similar system to help integrate the players to A League

@priorpeter does he have the same coaching badge that Monty and Serg did?

 

[Roger the Cabin Boy]

Who comes in as manager? They will want their own asst.

True, I think Monty cares enough about this club enough to have worked on a succession plan. Fingers crossed.

 

[AJames]

Would be 50% I’d say. Did a terrific job with a bag of steaming shit at the start. Got them high mid table - way higher than Christiansen at WSW.
They beat the league winners Apia I think.
Then lost the A League players and took a couple of weeks to get the team believing again.

Played similar system to help integrate the players to A League

@priorpeter does he have the same coaching badge that Monty and Serg did?

Saad has a UEFA Pro coaching licence.

 

[Big Al]

Runners so far
Lawrie
Ratboy
Hutch
Ben Cahn
Abbas
Did I miss any possibles?

Leaders and best options
Abbass
Cahn

Safe with experience
Talay

Left field
Dick Pick
Dick Son

 

[Ironbark]

they say they will speak to other candidates bu why is monty and serge on the plane if its not done they could have been able to do interview on phone

They get the last 5 managers on the shortlist, and their assistants, to compete in a three-legged race to see who gets the top job. It can be done over zoom but just isn't the same

 

[Roger the Cabin Boy]

I'm pissed off Monty has dogged us for a shitty side like Hibs but if the money was too sweet who can blame him.

I'm also sad to see him go. Hibs was a surprise for me too, but is a smart guy-I'm sure he had a plan

 

[Roger the Cabin Boy]

Just had a look on the Hibs forum, and this thread is being quoted there.

I hope they read that they are undeserving and that he should have held out for a Championship gig.
Lewis must be having nightmares

 

[Big Dog]

Abbas is a very good coach and seemed to gel the NPL boys and get them playing good football after they got left high and dry by rat boy.
Not sure if he has his pro license or not? @priorpeter would know more on this

Not sure he would be the best candidate right now. Its a big step up. An assistant maybe?

 

[Ozhammer]

but what happens if we missed the finals not that would of happened but if we did it would definitely effect Monty chances of an overseas move so i can understand the move now as these offers dont come around every day

If Monty wasn’t good enough to back up the performances of last season, then he arguably wouldn’t have been good enough to seek a gig overseas.

One stellar season for a player isn’t necessarily an indicator that they can cut in the big leagues and it’s the same for coaches.

Like others have said, Postecoglu only went overseas when he had achieved a number of years of success domestically.

I sincerely hope that Monty makes the move work but I do look at Arnold’s experience in Japan and wonder. You simply won’t get the level of squad buy in overseas that you can create here in Oz and Monty will be in a situation where he could be dealing with and egos and reputations bigger than his own, so we will have to see how he deals with that.

 

[Roger the Cabin Boy]

Personally I think it’s too early for Monty to go. Just like a lot of players they have 1 or 2 good seasons here money is splashed at them and off they go. Then all of a sudden they get lost in the system over there. Monty has won 1 championship and done a great job but I think he should have stayed another season to prove how good he is. This could make or break his whole coaching career. Ange proved himself over here before he left.

I think he has already proved himself and its not just about the silverware. The budget constraints, and the reliance [and successful development] of youth over the last few years that is a magnet for talented young players is key. Keep that process going and we will survive- Gloria Gaynor now comes to mind for some reason

All I ever hoped for from Staj and Monty was hope to be competitive after all of those years at the bottom of the table. He has given us far more than that.

Maybe Hibs is a good stepping stone after all? His proven ability has been to do wonders on a smallish budget [hence the attraction from small budget clubs]. I hope he retains this ability when he inevitiably hits the big time and has big budgets.

 

[Robbiemariner]

If I was going to apply for a new job , I'd want to see the set-up in person , see how the land lies so to speak and more importantly meet the people I'd be working with / for before any decision on my part is made .

At the very least I'd get the experience of the interview , see how i compared with the other job candidate's etc etc , I'd have nothing to loose .

 

[shipwreck]

One can also assume that will kill any signings we had in the works...

Imagine being a young gun from Portugal or South America, had been in talks with Monty and Serg for weeks and all of a sudden this is all over the newspapers.

Honestly horrible f**king timing, would have been better to happen the day after the GF

 

[FFC Mariner]

I hope CCM were always prepared for this and haven't been taken by surprise and are running around like headless chooks.
Key person risk and succession planning is usually overlooked.
"What do we do if Monty goes" would be a reasonable question to answer.
Bet it hadn't been though

 

[Wombat]

I looked at the money Hibs players are on and apart from Martin Boyle its not big money. He is on $15,010 per week, double the next highest earner. Miller is on $3,800 pw. So they are not a high paying club.

Mooy at Celtic earns $43,700 pw so if you are not at Celtic or Rangers you are not going to get rich in Scotland.

Kye is on $5,700pw at Hearts.
Birras is on $3,400pw at Dundee Utd.

Hibs are a pissant team but Edinburgh is a pretty nice city overall.

 

[Wombat]

I hope CCM were always prepared for this and haven't been taken by surprise and are running around like headless chooks.
Key person risk and succession planning is usually overlooked.
"What do we do if Monty goes" would be a reasonable question to answer.
Bet it hadn't been though

Richard was saying at the start of last season that Monty would be an EPL coach and that he was the best Coach in Australia so I do believe they would have been planning for this day. Richard is a smart business man well used to dealing with man management.

 

[shipwreck]

How much could they possibly be paying us to release Monty when their highest paid player is on relatively not much...

 

[Rising Sun]

I hope CCM were always prepared for this and haven't been taken by surprise and are running around like headless chooks.
Key person risk and succession planning is usually overlooked.
"What do we do if Monty goes" would be a reasonable question to answer.
Bet it hadn't been though

It was obvious that Monty would be gone sooner rather than later and Richard would also be seeing the $ signs and wanting to cash in whilst he was under contract. I spoke to Richard after the GF and he thought we would hang on to him for 1 more season.

So the succession plan should already have been in place - should have been working on one has soon as the last one (rat boy) was abandoned - and it just needs to be accelerated. Would be extremely poor planning if that is not case