NRL Hooligans thread

[FFC Mariner]

He represented  the DPP (Prosecutor)

 

[clarence]

You know, the mods or someone else should print out the whole 27 pages of this Thread and sent it to Gallop or that dingbat Rebecca Wilson.

It's a good record of all things wrong with the NRL for the past few years.

It's also a good record why the failed bid to have Cronulla play some home games up here, would not have worked. So many people wiser about the NRL and a lot of people very disappointed in the collective demographic of that sport. Some very sick puppies playing that game.

 

[FFC Mariner]

And the brother of that junkie (Johns) trying to spin his way out of another sex incident.

Their mum must be so proud of her boys

 

[serious14]

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,25456520-10388,00.html

HIGH-PROFILE rugby league personailty Matthew Johns's wildly successful public career is in doubt following revelations that he was involved in a group sex with a teenager in Christchurch seven years ago.

While Channel Nine will not sack Johns, The Sunday Telegraph reports his high-profile role on The Footy Show, plus a string of multi-million dollar corporate, music and publishing deals, are now in doubt.

Johns's management met with Nine boss David Gyngell on Friday morning for a scheduled contract meeting and he commentated, as usual, for Nine at Friday night's annual NSW City v Country league clash.

Johns, a former rugby league star and popular media personality as part of Nine's league coverage, has admitted to being involved in group sex with a 19-year old girl and a room full of Cronulla players after a trial match against the New Zealand Warriors in 2002.

 

[clarence]

And the brother of that junkie (Johns) trying to spin his way out of another sex incident.

Their mum must be so proud of her boys

They're from Cessnock, what else would you expect!

I find it curious that now, years later after the incident, that Nine has started having moral dilemmas about having him as an on air personality.

I'm sure they would have looked into his background & possibly uncovered this matter years ago but still signed him.

I take it that Nine has some sort of personal integrity clause in their contract with Johns, so if he is an embarrassment to Nine due to poor moral integrity, then he may be gone.

 

[FFC Mariner]

http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews/league-in-lockdown/2009/05/09/1241727661879.html

RUGBY league players and officials are bunkering down today and bracing for the fall-out from tomorrow night's Four Corners program on the code's culture of group sex and sexual abuse.

NRL chief executive David Gallop refused to comment yesterday until he had seen the ABC's "Code of Silence" report, which comes amid a spate of new abuse issues including:

- The revelation that Cronulla Sharks NRL officials waited almost four months after star player Greg Bird glassed his girlfriend before calling him to task at a special meeting;

- Balmain Tigers refusing to reveal details of a "confidential" internal inquiry as Queensland Police continue to investigate allegations of group sexual assault by players on a mentally impaired 23-year-old woman last month;

- A Sydney magistrate condemning NRL footballers for thinking they were "a special class of people" while sentencing Sydney Roosters forward Anthony Cherrington to 150 hours' community service on Friday for bashing his girlfriend.

 

[Arabmariner]

And the brother of that junkie (Johns) trying to spin his way out of another sex incident.

Their mum must be so proud of her boys

They're from Cessnock, what else would you expect!

I find it curious that now, years later after the incident, that Nine has started having moral dilemmas about having him as an on air personality.

I'm sure they would have looked into his background & possibly uncovered this matter years ago but still signed him.

I take it that Nine has some sort of personal integrity clause in their contract with Johns, so if he is an embarrassment to Nine due to poor moral integrity, then he may be gone.

It's hard to believe Ch9 would be embarrassed by anyone employed by them.If it means more knuckledraggers tune in next week to feel sorry for him then they probably think he's an asset.

After all this same channel has employed Sam Newman for years.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Looks like they are embarrassed.........

Johns stood down amid group sex scandal


Channel Nine said Mr Johns had been stood down indefinitely from all his network commitments.

Nine chief executive David Gyngell says the decision was by mutual agreement "and in the best interests of the Nine network, the game and its supporters, Matthew Johns and his family".

The decision came after Monday night's Four Corners program which aired an interview with a woman who gave details of a night of group sex with Mr Johns and other Cronulla Sharks players in a Christchurch hotel in 2002.

The woman said the experience left her feeling degraded and suicidal.

The players involved insisted the sex was consensual and New Zealand police did not lay any charges.

Mr Johns apologised for the incident on last week's Footy Show, but yesterday National Rugby League boss David Gallop said there was a "massive question mark" over his future in the game.

Mr Johns arrived at Sydney airport last night after a family holiday in Broome and was shielded from the media pack by a group of friends including Hoodo Gurus lead singer Dave Faulkner

 

[serious14]

Ah, another death-blow for this "sport".

There goes any remote chance they had left of attracting new female fans to the game....

 

[dibo]

most people who like the sport unfortunately already ignore all of this stuff. there's been a shitload of this stuff coming out this year and there's a pretty strong siege mentality in many quarters and the more mud that gets slung the stronger the attachment gets.

we can look down on these people, sneer at them as bogans or whatever, but the fact remains they're still pouring money into that game and aren't showing any sign of stopping. what's more, while i don't have figures easily to hand i'd wager their tv numbers smash us to bits (even accounting for the pay tv only thing, and comparing club matches to club matches - our internationals probably shit all over theirs from a very great height).

if you think there aren't many people left who support the game, it's worth comparing their average crowds to ours. it's also worth considering that in sydney at least, there are many clubs competing across the market, and yet still almost all of them average bigger crowds than any HAL club but melbourne.

of the sydney clubs, only cronulla is below qld roar's average from last season and of the rest only canberra and melbourne (by a whole 25 people) is below. of the other clubs, only one (broncos) are above the victory, but that merely shows how much of an outlier victory are to us.

that shows that they've got 12 clubs basically averaging between 13 and 20 thousand. we'd be crowing like nobody's business should we be in a position to claim the same thing. their crowds are actually up this year, unlike ours and unlike the AFL's.

to anticipate the reply to that - do you imagine for a second we don't fudge crowd figures? glass houses, etc...

 

[serious14]

NRL/ARL/Rugby League has existed for 100 years and in that time has moved precisely 4 teams beyond it's traditional NSW borders.... one of these teams (the Storm) is subsidised to the order of roughly 8 million dollars a year by News Limited and they still cannot turn a proft or _consistently_ bring in anything resembling a near capacity crowd.  Ask Melbourne Victory how they did in their two years there.....

One of the other teams is only now proving to be a success in its 4th (I think) disguise (Gold Coast).

The other two QLD clubs are going strong, but when you look beyond these territories, it is a sad story indeed..... if the NRL was serious about growing within Australia (because frankly, they've got nowhere else to go unless they incorporate a PNG team) they would rationalise the Sydney teams and start looking at having another go in Adelaide and Perth.  Maybe even the NT or Tasmania.  But no, they're content to sit back in their little bubble of pokie-based revenue, endorse a culture of violence, abuse against women AND alcohol, and in this time, _regress_ the game on the field.

I used to quite enjoy League when I was younger, even going so far as to call myself a Panthers fan.  The game was fast moving, the referees were far better than they are now, and kicks early in the tackle count and _varied_ running play were the norm.  The snore inducing shit we get these days is laughable.

The A-League is _FOUR_ years old.  In that time we have added two new teams, will soon be adding another two, and seen junior registration numbers _around the country_ rocket to all time highs.  We have a country wide foothold (c'mon Glory, stop being shit ) and a far superior "product" (to use the TV boffins terms for it) - NRL may very well continue to exist in its current form (and I put the increased crowd numbers down to _way_ more games being played at ANZ and decreased ticket prices) but you're kidding yourself if you don't think the A-League won't move above it in the next 10 - 20 years _across the country_ (yes, there is a country past the Dividing Range).

 

[Paolo]

Sacked for having consensual sex with a girl who then later regretted it..hmm

 

[serious14]

You get that problem all the time don't you?? 

 

[Paolo]

I'd prefer to have had that intercourse and the girl regret it then the be you and not have had the intercourse.

That said I have done charity work and then been the one who regretted it

 

[dibo]

i never claimed that the NRL was going to take over the world, i'm just saying that if we were where they are, we'd be laughing.

we can make all the predictions for ourselves that we like but we're still unarguably behind them right now - they get more people to their games and they make a lot more money than we do.

that's the reality of it, and i suspect it won't change for a long while yet.

 

[serious14]

i'm just saying that if we were where they are, we'd be laughing.

Mired in sex and alcohol abuse scandals and with decreasing revenue streams??  Hilarious I'm sure.

Keensy - charity work, niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice. 

 

[dibo]

believe what you want to believe if it helps you feel better.

 

[FFC Mariner]

believe what you want to believe if it helps you feel better.

Says a man who thinks Swann is doing a good job

 

[Sacko]

Sacked for having consensual sex with a girl who then later regretted it..hmm

What I also don't get is why it's taken her so long to regret it publicly?

In addition, surely this should just be a matter between Johns and his wife and family and it isn't a sackable offence for his current employer. If he was still employed by the club and they sacked him from breaching a club rule (if they had them in place) then that would make sense. Please explan.... ???

 

[FFC Mariner]

Sacked for having consensual sex with a girl who then later regretted it..hmm

Not too uncommon (or is that just me?)