New Mariners Coach?

[dru]

Hmmm, Arnold as coach.....not. The way our piss poor management has gone about the rumoured change of coach at the end of this season is a disgrace and will effect all concerned. All to cover tight ass managements lack of funding for players. Still no marquee. Shame we can't sack management they are the weakest link in the club and my thoughts still stand that management are letting the club rot while they look after 'business' all the while lossing fans and crowd numbers. Makes you wonder if they are in it only for the short term. No point having a 40 million dollar acadamy without a team.

I have my doubts about McKinna but far more concerned with lack of serious injection of talent and managements poor, f**king poor management skills. I fear for the future of the club.

Put your hand in your pocket to the tune of $3/4 mil a year and you can.









Of course we will have our own version of Con. Viva le revolution

 

[dibo]

Hmmm, Arnold as coach.....not. The way our piss poor management has gone about the rumoured change of coach at the end of this season is a disgrace and will effect all concerned. All to cover tight ass managements lack of funding for players. Still no marquee. Shame we can't sack management they are the weakest link in the club and my thoughts still stand that management are letting the club rot while they look after 'business' all the while lossing fans and crowd numbers. Makes you wonder if they are in it only for the short term. No point having a 40 million dollar acadamy without a team.

I have my doubts about McKinna but far more concerned with lack of serious injection of talent and managements poor, f**king poor management skills. I fear for the future of the club.

not blowing the budget on players for this season and instead prioritising a long-term capital investment is a sign of them only being in for the short-term? interesting logic.

 

[dru]

Every couple of days there are news releases from other clubs regarding their player purchases or  other items of interest ..... zippo lately from CCM. Perhaps we may hear something after today's game. Supporters need some sort of feedback to keep the interest going so close to the start of the season.

I don't know anyting about the CCM business side of things, so can't comment, however the  board can't dine out forever on the Tuggerah C of E, they need to get the supporters onside with actions and not more words in regards to the team .... because that is what is all about. A poor showing in the first half of the season, and the C o E will mean nothing.

So you are ignoring that there is an article from Friday about D'apuzzo time in the state league over the off season, The article on thursday about the change in time and venue for the trial game and the wednesday article all up on the news section of the mariners site since the COE article?

Last week was the first week back for them.

 

[Bex]

I don't know anyting about the CCM business side of things, so can't comment, however the  board can't dine out forever on the Tuggerah C of E, they need to get the supporters onside with actions and not more words in regards to the team .... because that is what is all about. A poor showing in the first half of the season, and the C o E will mean nothing.

The COE is a $40 million investment. I don't think they're doing too much "dining out" on it. They announced it when it was voted on by the RSL and then reinforced it when they lodged the development application. The fact of the matter is that $40 million dwarfs the salary cap and it could well figure heavily in our financial situation for many years to come.

Having said that, the accomodation and club facilities once up and running could go some way towards making our training facilities a plus to the bottom line rather than a cost like Bluetongue.

 

[Ursus]

Shame we can't sack management they are the weakest link in the club and my thoughts still stand that management are letting the club rot while they look after 'business'

If you sacked the management, who are also the owners, what would you be left with? :

The role of management is to look after business. :

The weakest link in this club at present are posts like yours.



I know I shouldn't feed the trolls.

 

[scottmac]

Shame we can't sack management they are the weakest link in the club and my thoughts still stand that management are letting the club rot while they look after 'business'

If you sacked the management, who are also the owners, what would you be left with? :

The role of management is to look after business. :

The weakest link in this club at present are posts like yours.



I know I shouldn't feed the trolls.

Not everyone with a difference of opinion is a troll Ursus. Leave people to their thoughts, however misguided they might be! How boring a forum where everyone agrees would be.

 

[David Votoupal]

Where management needs to assess is what the club aims to achieve on the field in the immediate future with the complexion of the league changing. Slipping too much down the ladder is going to be a problem where crowds and so forth are concerned.

 

[Jazzie]

Shame we can't sack management they are the weakest link in the club and my thoughts still stand that management are letting the club rot while they look after 'business'

If you sacked the management, who are also the owners, what would you be left with? :

The role of management is to look after business. :

The weakest link in this club at present are posts like yours.



I know I shouldn't feed the trolls.

This is one of the better forums, there doesn't appear to be any trolls on this site. Perhaps you should visit some other blogs/forums to see real trolls in action. I find the participants on this forum pretty fair minded. We may not always see eye to eye on posts, but that's why it's a forum .... everyone gets to express their point of view.

 

[dru]

No what management will have done, is create a budget, taking in account a reasonable forecast of income (including what they are willing to put into the club, ticket sales, tv broadcast money/FFA payments and sponsorship money) and a forecast of support costs (backroom staff wages, ground costs, coaching staff wages, office hire, stationary and training facilities) then make an informed decision on what an acceptable playing budget is for the season with which our coaching staff is working within so that we don't exceed the money likely to be available.

 

[FFC Mariner]

No what management will have done, is create a budget, taking in account a reasonable forecast of income (including what they are willing to put into the club, ticket sales, tv broadcast money/FFA payments and sponsorship money) and a forecast of support costs (backroom staff wages, ground costs, coaching staff wages, office hire, stationary and training facilities) then make an informed decision on what an acceptable playing budget is for the season with which our coaching staff is working within so that we don't exceed the money likely to be available.

I'm sorry Dru, too sensible and reasoned........off with you now please

 

[dru]

No what management will have done, is create a budget, taking in account a reasonable forecast of income (including what they are willing to put into the club, ticket sales, tv broadcast money/FFA payments and sponsorship money) and a forecast of support costs (backroom staff wages, ground costs, coaching staff wages, office hire, stationary and training facilities) then make an informed decision on what an acceptable playing budget is for the season with which our coaching staff is working within so that we don't exceed the money likely to be available.

I'm sorry Dru, too sensible and reasoned........off with you now please

Sorry will start to toe the party line of wanting out owners to bankrupt the club for one or two seasons of glory as a long term plan

A lot of people seem to be cursing my logic and reasoning lately

 

[adz]

A lot of people seem to be cursing my logic and reasoning lately

clearly you have no logic or reasoning ... "open the purse strings" please

 

[Ursus]

"Not everyone with a difference of opinion is a troll Ursus. Leave people to their thoughts, however misguided they might be! How boring a forum where everyone agrees would be."

"This is one of the better forums, there doesn't appear to be any trolls on this site. Perhaps you should visit some other blogs/forums to see real trolls in action. I find the participants on this forum pretty fair minded. We may not always see eye to eye on posts, but that's why it's a forum .... everyone gets to express their point of view."

Continual knocking of management, coaching and players is unhelpful to any critical discussion that may take place when we go through a bad patch. It discourages justifiable criticism by others for fear of supplying more ammunition, or being lumped with those who appear to "get off" on knocking.

I will carry on giving the knockers a hard time.

I also think every forum needs a grumpy old bastard to be complete.

 

[Jazzie]

I also think every forum needs a grumpy old bastard to be complete.

Very true, Ursus .... and I must commend you on doing the job so well!! 

 

[Bex]

Continual knocking of management, coaching and players is unhelpful to any critical discussion that may take place when we go through a bad patch. It discourages justifiable criticism by others for fear of supplying more ammunition, or being lumped with those who appear to "get off" on knocking.

I will carry on giving the knockers a hard time.

+1

 

[kevrenor]

Continual knocking of management, coaching and players is unhelpful to any critical discussion that may take place when we go through a bad patch. It discourages justifiable criticism by others for fear of supplying more ammunition, or being lumped with those who appear to "get off" on knocking.

I will carry on giving the knockers a hard time.

+1

+2

 

[scottmac]

Continual knocking of management, coaching and players is unhelpful to any critical discussion that may take place when we go through a bad patch. It discourages justifiable criticism by others for fear of supplying more ammunition, or being lumped with those who appear to "get off" on knocking.

I will carry on giving the knockers a hard time.

I also think every forum needs a grumpy old bastard to be complete.

What about when the supposed troll has a very fair point?

Hmmm, Arnold as coach.....not. The way our piss poor management has gone about the rumoured change of coach at the end of this season is a disgrace and will effect all concerned.

You took the last part of the post and called it a trolls post, when in fact it was a very valid point, obscured by an ending which does the writer no favours.

By all means give the knockers a hard time, but in this case i don't think a reply suggesting that their posts are the weakest link in the club was warranted. Maybe that was just your grumpy nature breaking through?

 

[dibo]

Continual knocking of management, coaching and players is unhelpful to any critical discussion that may take place when we go through a bad patch. It discourages justifiable criticism by others for fear of supplying more ammunition, or being lumped with those who appear to "get off" on knocking.

I will carry on giving the knockers a hard time.

I also think every forum needs a grumpy old bastard to be complete.

What about when the supposed troll has a very fair point?

Hmmm, Arnold as coach.....not. The way our piss poor management has gone about the rumoured change of coach at the end of this season is a disgrace and will effect all concerned.

You took the last part of the post and called it a trolls post, when in fact it was a very valid point, obscured by an ending which does the writer no favours.

Snowroo is hardly Robinson Crusoe in suggesting the Arnie thing was a prized cock up of the likes we had until now been free of.

As you say, the ending obscures it its the new bit so it attracts the comment, not the sentiment thats already been floating around here for a few weeks.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Of all the cock ups to make, even implying that you considered Arnoldout is pretty ordinary really.

however, 1 in 5 years is more than ok. If we wait another 5 years for a brain explosion like that, I will be happy TBH

 

[clarence]

Of all the cock ups to make, even implying that you considered Arnoldout is pretty ordinary really.

however, 1 in 5 years is more than ok. If we wait another 5 years for a brain explosion like that, I will be happy TBH

Can we organise a public flogging of Lyall for daring to mention 'Arnoldout"? ;D

I thought Lyall had learnt that there's a bunch of people who know a little about Football, enough to smell BS from the real deal, in the Mariners fanbase? He's said as much in the past.

Continual knocking of management, coaching and players is unhelpful to any critical discussion that may take place when we go through a bad patch. It discourages justifiable criticism by others for fear of supplying more ammunition, or being lumped with those who appear to "get off" on knocking.

I will carry on giving the knockers a hard time.

I also think every forum needs a grumpy old bastard to be complete.

What about when the supposed troll has a very fair point?

Hmmm, Arnold as coach.....not. The way our piss poor management has gone about the rumoured change of coach at the end of this season is a disgrace and will effect all concerned.

You took the last part of the post and called it a trolls post, when in fact it was a very valid point, obscured by an ending which does the writer no favours.

Snowroo is hardly Robinson Crusoe in suggesting the Arnie thing was a prized cock up of the likes we had until now been free of.

As you say, the ending obscures it its the new bit so it attracts the comment, not the sentiment thats already been floating around here for a few weeks.

And yeah, Ursus, the poster did have a point that others were making. What if the grumpy old bastard happens to be wrong?