Just protecting the interests of the WSW owners. Who owns WSW again?
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Just protecting the interests of the WSW owners. Who owns WSW again?
Ancient Mariner
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bikinigirl
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. community round?
. i remember several games being moved so that we were without a home game for a couple of months. I also remember the 'reason' was for pitch remediation works and when we returned home the remediation was not
. i also remember the 'fear and loathing' was about the club and the FFA taking the piss and deliberately misleading the fans for financial reasons ... I believe crowds dropped off as a consequence
. does any of this sound familiar?
bikinigirl
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eenfish
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At least they were courteous enough to make the game on a Monday instead of a Saturday, I guess...
sydmariner
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The FFA even decided 2 play a "double header" after a SFC home game but after there game everybody left so hardly anyone saw us play
Muppet
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Funny story. I do business with a Sydney FC supporter (don't crucify me). We were sitting around having a beer and talking about our respective teams. I mentioned about Mike Charlesworth now being the owner. Turns out that Mike Charlesworth was a client of his a couple of years back. He still knows MC fairly well. The one comment that he made about MC that has stuck in my mind is that he "is all about business." In the cold light of day MC will only look at that bottom line. If it does not add up don't expect him to hang around.
Don't worry there is. There are people waiting in the wings.. They just wont come in while this 1 man band operates the way it is.
yellowcake
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MC is a football fan. He was a part owner and knew the Mariners circumstances. I'm sure he is a smart enough businessman to know that he wasn't going to make a profit from owning the football club (the inextricably linked COE... maybe).
Whoever you are, I hope you know something or somebody to make that statement. I also hope those people don't expect to make a pile of dosh.
For all the angst about MC's comments and approach, I still believe if he didn't dig deep when he did last year we wouldn't have finally got our hands on the toilet seat.
Whether the club would have been allowed to fold, I don't know but I can't imagine the destabilisation not affecting the team's performances. I thank him for that.
midfielder
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You do start to wonder what his plan is ... as a matter of interest a client of mine said last night on the way out [I have a Mariner scarf hanging in my front window] Reckon they will still be here next year and he does not follow football.... I said I honestly have no idea but I hope so.... mixed messages and if we who by and large are the hard core rusted on's .... what must the casual or thinking about going, think....
Can't agree with not going to games or not being a member next year....
Can't agree with not going to games or not being a member next year....
dibo
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Who says WSW can't get a buyer?
A sale not having been done yet doesn't mean there's nobody who would be willing to buy.
We can't assume that there are, but we certainly can't assume that there's nobody. After all, there could be haggling over the price, there could be competing bids and FFA is playing them off, there could be some debate over the terms of the licence. We simply don't know.
What we can be sure of is that while WSW will certainly earn more on gates and merchandise, they'll very also cost more to run. More on salaries of players (marquees), more on non-playing football staff, a helluva lot more in administrative staff, a helluva lot more in marketing, advertising and promotion.
It's more glamorous, but there's no guarantee that it's going to make money and any buyer's initial investment will certainly be bigger than for CCM.
That's for the football club - there's also the COE.
That's what's probably driving f**ked up priorities. We've got an owner who's looking at revenue streams from a property development and hoping the football club doesn't take too much shine off and doesn't much care about the basics of the club. What we had in PT was a bloke who was a football guy and a businessman and his property business basically bought it in the GFC. He's kept the wheels on just long enough to get us through to 2013, but needed a hand.
The COE complicates the whole thing though - it's something that anchors the football club to the coast, but it's also the associated business that makes it hard for FFA to take the licence from the owner of the day - splitting the football club from the property project would almost certainly kill the project and certainly weakens the club. FFA would therefore be more likely to try to usher through a buyer than take the licence and then sell it.
FFA can make life simpler. They can issue a very simple declaration - the club is going nowhere. The licence was issued to the Central Coast in 2004 as the one regional licence (Newcastle, while 'regional', was earmarked as a market guaranteed to get a licence) and the FFA should declare that it will stay in Gosford. If MC doesn't like it he's free to hand the licence back to FFA.
VicMariner
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http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...or-central-coast-mariners-20131218-2zlgn.html
So we have money for a W-League team.
I thought we were skint? It will be good to have one though.
I think it's ok to have one game a year at NSO and base a youth academy there.
Having our W-League team there though....don't know. Might be a good compromise.
So we have money for a W-League team.
I thought we were skint? It will be good to have one though.I think it's ok to have one game a year at NSO and base a youth academy there.
Having our W-League team there though....don't know. Might be a good compromise.
Full article with some more quotes from MC
Central Coast Mariners are edging closer towards a move into the northern suburbs after owner Mike Charlesworth confirmed he is working to create a W-League team based at North Sydney Oval as well as forming a youth academy in the region.
As revealed by Fairfax Media on November 26, the Mariners are looking to move more games to North Sydney Oval - for financial incentives and to engage more supporters - and that could begin with a women's football team.
The Mariners are one of the few A-League clubs that do not have a women's team in the national competition. That could change, with Charlesworth and local football associations in the northern Sydney region expressing a desire to co-host a W-League team.
It is understood discussions have taken place in the past fortnight between the Mariners and football clubs in the northern suburbs regarding the joint venture.
''It would entail the Mariners having a W-League team in north Sydney, I can't give any more information than that but it's certainly on the agenda,'' Charlesworth said.
The Mariners owner has also had discussions with local clubs and associations about establishing a northern suburbs-based youth academy linked with the club as part of the Mariners' push into Sydney's north.
''From our point of view, if we're going to expand into that region, we'll have to do something in a tangible way,'' he said.
''Coming for one game a season is fine for that night but to have a physical presence and develop the supporter base that we want … then we have to do something in the football community, so that means work the market. We would like to see a Mariners academy in northern Sydney, we would like to see a W-League team.''
The Mariners will play a one-off match at North Sydney Oval at 7.30pm on Thursday when they host Wellington Phoenix. It is understood a big attendance and community response could lead to more games at the venue.
More than 5000 tickets had been sold by Wednesday afternoon and the venue's owner, North Sydney Council, expects an attendance of 10,000 due to an anticipated large number of walk-ups. A crowd figure of 10,000 will deliver a profitable gate receipt for the club and could tempt Charlesworth to bring more games to the venue.
The Mariners pay $7500 in stadium rental fees at their home ground, Bluetongue Stadium - understood to the be the lowest in the A-League - and Charlesworth confirmed they were looking for a reduced tenancy rate when Gosford City Council assumes management on February 1.
''We want to cut a better deal with Gosford council,'' Charlesworth said. ''Ten thousand [supporters at North Sydney Oval] is our target, and that will be a success, but I think there are other factors: the ongoing stadium deal that we'll get with the council, and the ongoing stadium deal that we may potentially get with Gosford council.''
The Mariners' squad depth will be tested during Thursday night's match with just 16 players likely to be eligible. Phil Moss will have few selection decisions to make for his extended squad due to suspensions and injuries.
Youth players Brent Griffiths and Michael Neill received one-match bans due to red cards in the National Youth League last week while defender Zach Anderson and youngster Tom Slater are both likely absences due to back injuries. Kiwi international Michael McGlinchey is struggling to overcome fatigue, and is likely to be rested for Thursday's game in order to be fully fit for Monday's match away to Western Sydney Wanderers.
Despite the setbacks, Moss is confident of getting a result with the players at his disposal.
''I wouldn't say that we're down to bare bones because we still have some great players who are available,'' Moss said.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...st-mariners-20131218-2zlgn.html#ixzz2nrj52OTe
Central Coast Mariners are edging closer towards a move into the northern suburbs after owner Mike Charlesworth confirmed he is working to create a W-League team based at North Sydney Oval as well as forming a youth academy in the region.
As revealed by Fairfax Media on November 26, the Mariners are looking to move more games to North Sydney Oval - for financial incentives and to engage more supporters - and that could begin with a women's football team.
The Mariners are one of the few A-League clubs that do not have a women's team in the national competition. That could change, with Charlesworth and local football associations in the northern Sydney region expressing a desire to co-host a W-League team.
It is understood discussions have taken place in the past fortnight between the Mariners and football clubs in the northern suburbs regarding the joint venture.
''It would entail the Mariners having a W-League team in north Sydney, I can't give any more information than that but it's certainly on the agenda,'' Charlesworth said.
The Mariners owner has also had discussions with local clubs and associations about establishing a northern suburbs-based youth academy linked with the club as part of the Mariners' push into Sydney's north.
''From our point of view, if we're going to expand into that region, we'll have to do something in a tangible way,'' he said.
''Coming for one game a season is fine for that night but to have a physical presence and develop the supporter base that we want … then we have to do something in the football community, so that means work the market. We would like to see a Mariners academy in northern Sydney, we would like to see a W-League team.''
The Mariners will play a one-off match at North Sydney Oval at 7.30pm on Thursday when they host Wellington Phoenix. It is understood a big attendance and community response could lead to more games at the venue.
More than 5000 tickets had been sold by Wednesday afternoon and the venue's owner, North Sydney Council, expects an attendance of 10,000 due to an anticipated large number of walk-ups. A crowd figure of 10,000 will deliver a profitable gate receipt for the club and could tempt Charlesworth to bring more games to the venue.
The Mariners pay $7500 in stadium rental fees at their home ground, Bluetongue Stadium - understood to the be the lowest in the A-League - and Charlesworth confirmed they were looking for a reduced tenancy rate when Gosford City Council assumes management on February 1.
''We want to cut a better deal with Gosford council,'' Charlesworth said. ''Ten thousand [supporters at North Sydney Oval] is our target, and that will be a success, but I think there are other factors: the ongoing stadium deal that we'll get with the council, and the ongoing stadium deal that we may potentially get with Gosford council.''
The Mariners' squad depth will be tested during Thursday night's match with just 16 players likely to be eligible. Phil Moss will have few selection decisions to make for his extended squad due to suspensions and injuries.
Youth players Brent Griffiths and Michael Neill received one-match bans due to red cards in the National Youth League last week while defender Zach Anderson and youngster Tom Slater are both likely absences due to back injuries. Kiwi international Michael McGlinchey is struggling to overcome fatigue, and is likely to be rested for Thursday's game in order to be fully fit for Monday's match away to Western Sydney Wanderers.
Despite the setbacks, Moss is confident of getting a result with the players at his disposal.
''I wouldn't say that we're down to bare bones because we still have some great players who are available,'' Moss said.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...st-mariners-20131218-2zlgn.html#ixzz2nrj52OTe
bikinigirl
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http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...or-central-coast-mariners-20131218-2zlgn.html
So we have money for a W-League team.
I think it's ok to have one game a year at NSO and base a youth academy there.
Having our W-League team there though....don't know. Might be a good compromise.
. for some reason i thought that this was always a likely scenario ... not sure why but it was in the back of my head
. in some ways it makes sense ... but it would be disjointed from the COE and the academies on the coast as well as the blokes team - a compromise for the two (geographical) sets of fans perhaps? i attended quite a few of CCM WL games back in the day and they were not very well supported
. also as a semi-professional league it may be a little easier for the girls being based in the larger centre. from what i understand many of the girls in the academy teams already travel up from sydney so that is another complicating factor (and may cause a further withdrawal from the coast)
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