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nero

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Would prefer just a bay 16 membership instead of allocated seats.

If there are no seats in the bay and people are standing there without memberships fine kick them out. However any other situation will cause marinators bay 16 members to argue over seating, which is not what the group is about.
 

Arabmariner

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You know the solution to all this stuff is in Germany......safe standing areas.The seats are locked up during league games converting some area back into terracing.For UEFA games the seats are back in place to comply with UEFA,s rules.Happy could probably inform us more on that.
It,ll never happen here though......too much like common sense for the authorities!
 

marinermick

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Arabmariner said:
You know the solution to all this stuff is in Germany......safe standing areas.The seats are locked up during league games converting some area back into terracing.For UEFA games the seats are back in place to comply with UEFA,s rules.Happy could probably inform us more on that.
It,ll never happen here though......too much like common sense for the authorities!

would never happen in australia and especially in NSW because of our tough compliance rules and the proliferation of litigation

the mariners were forced to have reserved seating in bay 16 so that the FFA can monitor trouble makers in the supporter areas
 

kevrenor

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marinermick said:
Arabmariner said:
You know the solution to all this stuff is in Germany......safe standing areas.The seats are locked up during league games converting some area back into terracing.For UEFA games the seats are back in place to comply with UEFA,s rules.Happy could probably inform us more on that.
It,ll never happen here though......too much like common sense for the authorities!

would never happen in australia and especially in NSW because of our tough compliance rules and the proliferation of litigation

the mariners were forced to have reserved seating in bay 16 so that the FFA can monitor trouble makers in the supporter areas

Yeah, while they are scrutinising The Bay (well the Bay 16 reserved bit anyway) all hell could break out somewhere else and all their security and cameras will miss it!  I stand by my opinion that they have NFI!
 

MrCelery

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nero said:
Would prefer just a bay 16 membership instead of allocated seats.

If there are no seats in the bay and people are standing there without memberships fine kick them out. However any other situation will cause marinators bay 16 members to argue over seating, which is not what the group is about.

I agree with that. I think that would be a better balance between open-slather and too tight a control.

The Marinators by nature are a spontanious bunch. For those in the bay that want the same seat for 30 years - let them pick one by all means, but for the reast who are happy to just be guaranteed a seat in the main area and mingle, a more flexible arrangement would be preferrable.

Maybe that mingling will happen anyway once everyone knows who seat is whos and who is happy to swap about a bit on match day. Time will tell.

Too early to be too critical - happy to give it a chance.

In the mean time, I sent my Jets-lovin' bro the Membership package as a prank. This was his response:

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Smart arse. Two can play that game:


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crooksey

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just for some clarification, i have a group of mates who are all current white student members, should we wish to buy bay 16 reserved seats AND sit together would we be having to go to the mariners office and renew all at the same time or attach our forms together and then ask to be placed together in our requested position???

personally i'm very much considering bay 16 membership even if there is no student price as $190 doesn't seem too steep for a full home season and reserved seat that i know will always be there for me, unlike previous seasons where i'd rock up to find the bay packed full of random people i'd never seen before
 

yellowcake

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crooksey said:
should we wish to buy bay 16 reserved seats AND sit together would we be having to go to the mariners office and renew all at the same time or attach our forms together and then ask to be placed together in our requested position???
Either should work. The later would be easier 'cause you wouldn't all need to go in together - just one of you with all forms and money or post it. We did this with 2 family memberships together in V2 with a note about which Bay / Rows if possible and got exactly our wishes. Each family gets contact separately for renewal.

My impression from here on the Bay membership though is that although you'll all have a nominal reserved seat (for all time - like us) it's likely to work as an entry pass to Bay 16, which will sort itself out internally.

Arabmariner said:
There is nearly always a few who can,t make it for one reason or another so we just pass the tickets on to other friends when available.My Mrs doesn,t go that much so we give her ticket to various friends over the season
:redcard: (but expecting to be flamed). We let one of our 4 seats go between V2 and V3 when the club (as I felt inclined to comply with their wishes) introduced the 'non-transferable' policy, after lending the pass had been officially encouraged prior to that. We'd had quite a lot of people visit on my wife's membership (she has never attended a game although she did come to the V2 Members Christmas Picnic).

Arabmariner said:
If someone wants to go and we have no spares we just buy a ticket as close as possible to our seats and then shuffle around to suit ourselves.We don,t often sit in our own exact seats anyway
Exactly. A ticket to Upper Western anywhere gets past the stair-nazis and we know who will/won't be present in our 7 on the day and there's usually some unoccupied surrounding seats.
 

soundsdifferent

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if the bay memberrship was to sell out or for people who do not want to buy a reserved is their a posibility of a split in the marinators or  even the creation of a new supporter group in one of the corners, theres no way my freinds will buy memberships so im not gonna buy a bay one with no one to sit next to.
there are other clubs with two groups wat are they doing bout that
 

FFC Mariner

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soundsdifferent said:
if the bay memberrship was to sell out or for people who do not want to buy a reserved is their a posibility of a split in the marinators or  even the creation of a new supporter group in one of the corners, theres no way my freinds will buy memberships so im not gonna buy a bay one with no one to sit next to.
there are other clubs with two groups wat are they doing bout that

As a suggestion, why not get a normal blue membership (not in the bay) and you and your mates can join the standers at the back of 15.

There are now between 10 -20 depending on who we are playing and it might be better to spread "in situ" rather than split.

Just a thought
 

marinermick

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soundsdifferent said:
if the bay memberrship was to sell out or for people who do not want to buy a reserved is their a posibility of a split in the marinators or  even the creation of a new supporter group in one of the corners, theres no way my freinds will buy memberships so im not gonna buy a bay one with no one to sit next to.
there are other clubs with two groups wat are they doing bout that

won't happen because the only place where security will have a tolerance of people standing up will be behind the goals

as greenpoole said get a general membership and extend the atmosphere behind the goals
 

Jeff (LouMacari)

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crooksey said:
just for some clarification, i have a group of mates who are all current white student members, should we wish to buy bay 16 reserved seats AND sit together would we be having to go to the mariners office and renew all at the same time or attach our forms together and then ask to be placed together in our requested position???

personally i'm very much considering bay 16 membership even if there is no student price as $190 doesn't seem too steep for a full home season and reserved seat that i know will always be there for me, unlike previous seasons where i'd rock up to find the bay packed full of random people i'd never seen before
that just about sums it up for me mate! You and your mates are not going to be students forever and if you go down this path NOW, you are securing your place for the future! ;)

I can imagine the conversation in a few years time....
"how the hell did you get tix into bay 16? "

"Oh I got mine in V4 when they were introduced"

"Lucky bastard"...

"no, not lucky, you had the same opportunity!"
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
Jeff (LouMacari) said:
crooksey said:
personally i'm very much considering bay 16 membership even if there is no student price as $190 doesn't seem too steep for a full home season and reserved seat that i know will always be there for me, unlike previous seasons where i'd rock up to find the bay packed full of random people i'd never seen before
that just about sums it up for me mate! You and your mates are not going to be students forever and if you go down this path NOW, you are securing your place for the future! ;)

For reasons I explained before, I don't get why the no concessions thing should be defended, let alone considered a good thing. I can get why it can be put up with, or maybe accepted with some grumbling in the hope that it might change in the future. I really feel (and have heard nothing yet in this thread or anywhere else to make me think otherwise) that it's a bit rich that those of us who are full time workers aren't being asked to pay any more to demonstrate our commitment to the Marinators while the students and concession holders are being slugged.
 

Part_Timer

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i work full time so obviously i earn more than a student but i would imagin i have alot more bills than a student too..most students still live at home and dont pay rent/board, arent saving for a house and usually dont have big personal loans or credit cards...in this time of ever increasing everything shouldnt i get a discount for puttin up with inept governments or having to know fish..HAHA
 

Tez

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i wouldnt really mind the $190 price tag for Bay 16 if we were still allowed to show up and stand any where, the reserved seating is a bit much, most of my mates are considering GA and moving to another bay.

While yes we could try swapping seats and wot not to stand and chant nxt to each other i dont think the general spontanous atmosphere (rocking up and meeting different groups of friends in the bay)  will be the same, partly cause many r leaving the bay.
Also im concerned the Bay could be half empty if enough people move to other bays.
 

skilbeck

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aussiecross said:
i work full time so obviously i earn more than a student but i would imagin i have alot more bills than a student too..most students still live at home and dont pay rent/board, arent saving for a house and usually dont have big personal loans or credit cards...

clearly you dont know many students. there are a lot of us that have to pay for rents of 200+ per week in sydney for a farkin shoe box and there are students that have huge loans. while i will probably fork out the money for a season ticket in the bay. i find this presumption annoying at best because unlike people from sydney or melbourne, we need to either commute or move a good 80+ km to get decent education and we cant live at home like students do in the city. therefore IMO students are more susceptible to financial pressure from the regional areas then anywhere else in the country

I know of quite a few people that would love to sit in bay 16 this year but wont due to financial pressures like those listed and some of them are pissed off at the club for abandoning them. Also these new ticketing rules will create a greater divide between the marinators and the rest of the stadium who will see the bay as elitist and this will only decrease participation and involvement (if there is any) in the chants from bay 16.

Another point, this sets a bad precedent as if the marinators expand to 15 and 17 these restrictions will be applied there

kevrenor said:
marinermick said:
Arabmariner said:
You know the solution to all this stuff is in Germany......safe standing areas.The seats are locked up during league games converting some area back into terracing.For UEFA games the seats are back in place to comply with UEFA,s rules.Happy could probably inform us more on that.
It,ll never happen here though......too much like common sense for the authorities!

would never happen in australia and especially in NSW because of our tough compliance rules and the proliferation of litigation

the mariners were forced to have reserved seating in bay 16 so that the FFA can monitor trouble makers in the supporter areas

Yeah, while they are scrutinising The Bay (well the Bay 16 reserved bit anyway) all hell could break out somewhere else and all their security and cameras will miss it!  I stand by my opinion that they have NFI!

agreed talk about a farking orwellian view on life. potential troublemakers would not reserve a seat in the stadium, they are usually blow ins that come in for 1 or 2 matches and with the new restrictions on bay 16 its unlikely they will sit there, but they will always go to games.

I also dont see how safe standing areas are more of a safety and ligitation concern than the current situation, because we are currently standing in bay 16, someone could fall over and break their neck and the stadium would still be sued.
 

Deej

Well-Known Member
A bay 16 ticket is $16.25 per game, how much beer do students usually consume at 1 Mariners game? Probably more than $16 worth I'd say!

Including the other benefits you get with your membership I reckon it's reasonable.

To quote lock stock "it's a deal, it's a steal, it's the sale of the f**king century"!
 
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