Memberships

[skilbeck]

A bay 16 ticket is $16.25 per game, how much beer do students usually consume at 1 Mariners game? Probably more than $16 worth I'd say!

Including the other benefits you get with your membership I reckon it's reasonable.

To quote lock stock "it's a deal, it's a steal, it's the sale of the f**king century"!

drink at home beforehand and the club after bluetongue lager is farking crap and a rip off

 

[Deej]

A bay 16 ticket is $16.25 per game, how much beer do students usually consume at 1 Mariners game? Probably more than $16 worth I'd say!

Including the other benefits you get with your membership I reckon it's reasonable.

To quote lock stock "it's a deal, it's a steal, it's the sale of the f**king century"!

drink at home beforehand and the club after bluetongue lager is farking crap and a rip off

My point is it's $16 a game, it's really not a lot of money!

 

[Arabmariner]

A bay 16 ticket is $16.25 per game, how much beer do students usually consume at 1 Mariners game? Probably more than $16 worth I'd say!

Including the other benefits you get with your membership I reckon it's reasonable.

To quote lock stock "it's a deal, it's a steal, it's the sale of the f**king century"!

drink at home beforehand and the club after bluetongue lager is farking crap and a rip off

My point is it's $16 a game, it's really not a lot of money!

Skilbecks just trying to make out he's poor to get out of buying me and TB a beer! ;D

 

[skilbeck]

A bay 16 ticket is $16.25 per game, how much beer do students usually consume at 1 Mariners game? Probably more than $16 worth I'd say!

Including the other benefits you get with your membership I reckon it's reasonable.

To quote lock stock "it's a deal, it's a steal, it's the sale of the f**king century"!

drink at home beforehand and the club after bluetongue lager is farking crap and a rip off

My point is it's $16 a game, it's really not a lot of money!

Skilbecks just trying to make out he's poor to get out of buying me and TB a beer! ;D

bingo jkz

 

[dibo]

A bay 16 ticket is $16.25 per game, how much beer do students usually consume at 1 Mariners game? Probably more than $16 worth I'd say!

Including the other benefits you get with your membership I reckon it's reasonable.

To quote lock stock "it's a deal, it's a steal, it's the sale of the f**king century"!

Full time students have *less money* than full time workers.

It is a *less good deal* than it is for full time workers.

It's terrific value for workers, it's much less terrific for students (for whom getting a saving up to $70 or close to half the price of membership and getting membership elsewhere in the ground is relatively attractive as a consequence).

All of us workers can just pay what we would have paid anyway, while frankly students are getting screwed.

Is that so hard to grasp?

When I was a full time undergrad student I probably wouldn't have been able to afford to get membership.

After work and government assistance, I had about $500 per fortnight clear after tax. From that Id pay $300 rent. Making ends meet with essentially $200 disposable income per fortnight (which also had to cover bills, train tickets, food etc) means that you look at an annual cost of $190 with much less enthusiasm than one of $120.

Talk of but you save a seat for the future or its cheaper than overseas doesnt really cut it when thats more than a months worth in train tickets youre talking about.

I certainly wouldnt have been drinking $16 worth of beer at a game if I were a student. Others might, thats up to them, I preferred being able to buy groceries at the end of the week.

From my personal experience I would say that it would surprise me if there were no students going bugger that and taking the cheaper option. Its not like theyre going to be feted like kings for making a bigger sacrifice, or are we going to give them pride of place because they demonstrated a greater commitment by spending more of their hard-earned than everyone else?

It's a debate of more academic interest to me now as I'm not clearing a mere $500 a fortnight these days, and there are mitigating points but in the end it's still stupid and unnecessary, and given both Newcastle and  Sydney offer concessions so theres no reason for us not to.

ok, I get that you don't get it... move on.

Nobody's made a half-decent argument more like - you must 'not get' my criticisms. Had the tone in this discussion from some quarters not been so condescending I probably would have moved on before now.

 

[Jeff (LouMacari)]

Another point, this sets a bad precedent as if the marinators expand to 15 and 17 these restrictions will be applied there

Given what the FFA originally wanted from all clubs, wouldn't surprise me to see ALL seated stadiums in the future through pressure from the FFA.

 

[serious14]

Another point, this sets a bad precedent as if the marinators expand to 15 and 17 these restrictions will be applied there

Given what the FFA originally wanted from all clubs, wouldn't surprise me to see ALL seated stadiums in the future through pressure from the FFA.

The FFA has got to tread very warily here...... it's backfired on them in Melbourne, and if they're not careful, it will happen in other clubs.  They're more than happy to use shots of active supporters in their promotion and all that gear, but are they doing anything to foster the continuation of said support for years to come??    To be honest, not really.  I'm seriously thinking more and more than they just want us to come to the game every week, pay our $16 or whatever it might be, and sit there and clap politely when the scoreboard tells us to, lest they have to pay security to contain the rowdy hooligans and some such.

Active support in this country has so much potential, but it's stifled to a point where it's not even funny.  Let's be honest - active support in the A-League is a bad joke when compared to about 90% of the rest of the world.  And yes, I know we've only been at it for 3 years or so, but really, where can we go from here??  When 'crepe paper' is considered a dangerous weapon that is to be confiscated at the gate, what hope have we for a fully licensed flare/pyrotechnic tifo??

Etc. and so forth.

 

[Paolo]

Another point, this sets a bad precedent as if the marinators expand to 15 and 17 these restrictions will be applied there

Given what the FFA originally wanted from all clubs, wouldn't surprise me to see ALL seated stadiums in the future through pressure from the FFA.

flare/pyrotechnic tifo??

leave that up to the CCY

 

[Jeff (LouMacari)]

or the now infamous 'baker st elite'

 

[serious14]

or the now infamous 'baker st elite'

They were ever un-infamous??

 

[marinerbhoy]

F@#k me has the cost of studying really gone up that much? Season one I was studying full time paid for an adult white membership and even managed to save for away trips. It's one bay if you can't afford it go to bay 15 or 17 and start the singing there until you can.

Simple Dru... 'Priorities'.  Your priority (after studying of course) was to follow your loved sport, so , you did it. simple. A lot of people who complain about a $70 difference will think nothing of going and buying a $30 phone credit to 'chat' to mates. That's fine, as that is their choice. But make no mistake, there IS a choice! They can take up the payment plan or pay $120 and sit in GA area!

couldnt agree with dibo more. this above post is by the far most ignorant i have seen on this forum.

i know plenty of students who are currently in dibo's former position. luckily i still live at home and dont have to pay board or groceries. so i am upgrading to gold memberships this year. if i had pay what most students have to pay i wouldnt be getting membership at all.

 

[Deej]

$50 a month on the payment plan for a bay 16 ticket isn't a lot of money IMO, I was a student once too so understand the arguments......but if students prefer to purchase a GA at a better rate and sit in Bay 15 or 17 that's their right and choice that they have been given by the club.

However, yes perhaps student rates should have been offered but understand the reasons why they were not!

It's up the the individual whether they want to secure their permanent seat in the bay, some might argue that's a small price to pay  :-\

 

[kevrenor]

However, yes perhaps student rates should have been offered but understand the reasons why they were not!

Deej, can you suggest some? ... none come to my mind!

Family and concessions should have been offered - end of. 

A small across the board surcharge on The Bay tickets would have been acceptable to denote it's special status.

It's the only beef I have and it isn't personal - I've renewed my Gold Bay 7 (my retreat when some media blow-ins occupy the quite limited press box).  My kids will have to fend for themselves this time. Their views may be different.

 

[Deej]

However, yes perhaps student rates should have been offered but understand the reasons why they were not!

Deej, can you suggest some? ... none come to my mind!

Family and concessions should have been offered - end of. 

A small across the board surcharge on The Bay tickets would have been acceptable to denote it's special status.

It's the only beef I have and it isn't personal - I've renewed my Gold Bay 7 (my retreat when some media blow-ins occupy the quite limited press box).  My kids will have to fend for themselves this time. Their views may be different.

Yep - the club didn't want to promote the area for children as we all know beer showers can occur, foul language and more noise.

What would happen if mum, dad, their 5 year old and 3 year old purchased a family ticket in row L seats 10-13.  For some reason they were unaware of the bahavour in bay 16 and then complained to the club? Complained to security? Didn't want to stand? all the usual discussions that's discussed on this forum surrounding bay 16......blah blah blah

You would get some families wanting a reserved seat at a cheaper price if family tickets were available, you can say I doubt it, but at the end of the day families would have that right to that package if made available.  How many of you would then complain that you can't stand etc?

Peronally I can understand that.  However what we all need to remember is that this is the FIRST year that bay 16 is allocated/reserved seating.  The club will learn from this year just like they did in V1,2 and 3.  Next year they may decide that they need to market the bay differently? Next year we may have student prices? Next year we may have family packages? But all those people who have purchased their seats THIS YEAR will have the same seats next year and beyond!

 

[dibo]

thanks for that deej, i appreciate the answer.

i buy the argument for kids, not so much for students, but i'm not going to shoot the messenger.

 

[kevrenor]

However, yes perhaps student rates should have been offered but understand the reasons why they were not!

Deej, can you suggest some? ... none come to my mind!
Family and concessions should have been offered - end of. 

Yep - the club didn't want to promote the area for children as we all know beer showers can occur, foul language and more noise.

What would happen if mum, dad, their 5 year old and 3 year old purchased a family ticket in row L seats 10-13.  For some reason they were unaware of the bahavour in bay 16 and then complained to the club? Complained to security? Didn't want to stand? all the usual discussions that's discussed on this forum surrounding bay 16......blah blah blah

You would get some families wanting a reserved seat at a cheaper price if family tickets were available, you can say I doubt it, but at the end of the day families would have that right to that package if made available.  How many of you would then complain that you can't stand etc?

Peronally I can understand that.  However what we all need to remember is that this is the FIRST year that bay 16 is allocated/reserved seating.  The club will learn from this year just like they did in V1,2 and 3.  Next year they may decide that they need to market the bay differently? Next year we may have student prices? Next year we may have family packages? But all those people who have purchased their seats THIS YEAR will have the same seats next year and beyond!

Thanks Deej, at least some are now being put forward. 

Haven't seen the club promote the area as such at all, as they certainly would have needed to do in a big way (with all the riders attached to what The Bay was about!) if it wasn't just 'adults' only..

Perhaps the transitional nature was a key issue as you say - we shall see in future I suppose.  Let us hope it gets near full week in and out and vocal (if that is the case then it will have been worth it!)

 

[bikinigirl]

. i think it has more to do with the perception that this is a 'premium' location where it is hoped that demand will outstrip supply hence the higher price (this may not be immediately apparent)

. the same can be seen with the platinum seats (one price) and the gf cat. a tickets (also all one price)

. they are marketting off the atmosphere generated by the marinators in the bay - because, frankly, the view there is rubbish

. again, i think that a premium is justified but also that concessions should be available (non-availability of childrens tickets would have lent support to the expectation of a more 'mature' attitude)

 

[serious14]

When we rip out a flare tifo the extra money spent on Bay memberships will be well worth it. 

 

[Paolo]

When we rip out a flare tifo the extra money spent on Bay memberships will be well worth it. 

everyone here knows that wont happen.......unless the ccy are involved

 

[Ursus]

You lot don't know when you are well off.
When I was a boy it used to cost a shilling to get into North Sydney oval and an extra sixpence if you wanted an area with seats. A bloody fortune in those days.
I used to have to collect soft drink bottles to get a bus fare home.
You kids these days get it easy and you complain about a few dollars.

I am soon to become a pensioner, but do you think they will give me a concession on my platinum tickets.
No way. But do you hear me complaining?