Memberships

[dibo]

I know we are in recession here in NSW

I believe the term Morris used was "economic slowdown" - get it right. 

there's a good reason for that. 'recession' has a very specific meaning - at least two sequential quarters of negative growth.

we're not presently experiencing negative growth let alone two quarters of it, we're experiencing slower growth than before. that's why it's a slowdown, not a recession.

see, i learnt something in macroeconomics!

 

[Jorome Alexander Bennett]

GB, no price rises in 4 years and then you complain when there IS one? C'mon man. Who is going to  swallow the increases that they have had to endure over that period (rent, wages, stadium fees, general outgoings etc)?

Mate, I'm not complaining.
I'm not going to complain about a reasonable price rise. I'll leave that for the borderline members. Those that aren't diehard who we could lose. Or those that were considering that might be pushed away. The people not on this forum.

I simply feel it would be better strategy for the club short term and long term to wait.
Build the loyalty. Even if that means losing out of potential profits. Or being behind the inflation.
Because, Loyalty now equals bucks later and later and later and later.
On further reflection, they have nailed it. If every old member renews and get a few new ones then they will be right for the a price rise next season due to ACL, which would be an easily justifiable price rise.

At the end of the day, I am a member,  I will be a member. But is the current new membership drive as good as it could be?

 

[MrCelery]

$20 to watch Perth FFS??

I know we are in recession here in NSW and they are hiring cleaners for $90k but.............

Quality strategy by Glory, leveraging off the resources boom in WA! Didn't work too well at the turnstiles last year tho.

 

[bikinigirl]

Who is going to  swallow the increases that they have had to endure over that period (rent, wages, stadium fees, general outgoings etc)?

leaving aside whether the increases are a good idea or not, i would have thought that the 26% increase in crowds from season 1 to 2, then 30% season 2 to 3 would pretty much cover that.

. only if the club is happy to replicate v1 losses 

$20 to watch Perth FFS??

I know we are in recession here in NSW and they are hiring cleaners for $90k but.............

Quality strategy by Glory, leveraging off the resources boom in WA! Didn't work too well at the turnstiles last year tho.

. they're all too busy earning a fortune to go to the football :ashamed:

 

[dibo]

Who is going to  swallow the increases that they have had to endure over that period (rent, wages, stadium fees, general outgoings etc)?

leaving aside whether the increases are a good idea or not, i would have thought that the 26% increase in crowds from season 1 to 2, then 30% season 2 to 3 would pretty much cover that.

. only if the club is happy to replicate v1 losses 

crowds are something like 60% bigger. keeping ticket prices constant, revenue would be up 60%. costs would be up as well, but not 60%.

sponsor revenue would be greater now, the fox deal gives a lot more money now, there are many factors that mean that we'd have to be doing something a lot crazier than not raising ticket prices to lose the same money lost in season 1.

 

[bikinigirl]

. agreed

 

[RobC]

Including the pre season cup against Syd CCM members get 12 home games.

 

[soccersensei]

$20 to watch Perth FFS??

I know we are in recession here in NSW and they are hiring cleaners for $90k but.............

Quality strategy by Glory, leveraging off the resources boom in WA! Didn't work too well at the turnstiles last year tho.

Maybe they're banking on them turning out to see their new Brazilian this year - he does "sound" like quality imho. Mitchell appears to be doing his best to construct a more competitive side this year and as a coach I like him and think he will succeed. He's going to need to mind you, another season like v3 and the purple people eaters may well be toast.

 

[Bear]

$20 to watch Perth FFS??

I know we are in recession here in NSW and they are hiring cleaners for $90k but.............

Quality strategy by Glory, leveraging off the resources boom in WA! Didn't work too well at the turnstiles last year tho.

Maybe they're banking on them turning out to see their new Brazilian this year - he does "sound" like quality imho. Mitchell appears to be doing his best to construct a more competitive side this year and as a coach I like him and think he will succeed. He's going to need to mind you, another season like v3 and the purple people eaters may well be toast.

35 year old brazilian who has played for like 10 clubs in his career, yeah sounds quality to me

 

[BrisRecky]

yeah he does sound like have shinpads will travel...now dont he

 

[soccersensei]

$20 to watch Perth FFS??




I know we are in recession here in NSW and they are hiring cleaners for $90k but.............

Quality strategy by Glory, leveraging off the resources boom in WA! Didn't work too well at the turnstiles last year tho.

Maybe they're banking on them turning out to see their new Brazilian this year - he does "sound" like quality imho. Mitchell appears to be doing his best to construct a more competitive side this year and as a coach I like him and think he will succeed. He's going to need to mind you, another season like v3 and the purple people eaters may well be toast.

35 year old brazilian who has played for like 10 clubs in his career, yeah sounds quality to me

lol, another useless over rated Brazilian? Surely not? How on earth do you come up with such strange notions Bear? 


You could well be right, his record just has the ring of one of those quiet workhorses to me, (No glue factory jokes now)  You know the kind, never anything too special thats now completely fallen apart (Jardel) A next supposed big thing (Reinaldo) just the kind that does a job well enough to enable him to keep moving on and being gainfully employed...  We'll see...
OH CAN'T WAIT TILL WE GET TO SEE!!!!
Start the farking pre season already!!!

 

[Deej]

Including the pre season cup against Syd CCM members get 12 home games.

exactly so it works out to be $15.83 per game

The Cove is $169 for an adult and that's for 10 games which is $16.90 per game

So depending on where you sit and how many games you'll be attending we could be seen as cheaper.

 

[dibo]

Including the pre season cup against Syd CCM members get 12 home games.

exactly so it works out to be $15.83 per game

The Cove is $169 for an adult and that's for 10 games which is $16.90 per game

So depending on where you sit and how many games you'll be attending we could be seen as cheaper.

Depends how you want to spin it. They've priced the Cove slightly higher than their 'Bronze' (or basic GA) - it's $169 as opposed to $149, so people definitely self-select rather than accidentally winding up in there. It's still closer in price to the Bronze than Silver membership (which is $209), so it's basically to create some differentiation without making it a lot more pricey.

For students however, it's certainly cheaper to be buy a Cove season ticket than a Bay ticket - $119 as opposed to $190, or $11.90 per game as opposed to our $15.83.

If they get free entry to the match in Campbelltown against Queensland, you could call that 11 games included at $10.81 per game.

You'll note that there is no child's or family price on the Cove membership - reflecting the fact that it's not really a kids' area.

They *don't* remove student concessions, they probably think (as I do) that it's pointless and probably counterproductive to make it much more expensive in relative terms for students than anyone else. It's cheaper for our student members to go around the sides and sit in Gold reserved seats.

 

[Jesus]

I dont know. Mitchell had him trial with the glory in indonesia, and had no trouble with his fitness playing in both games in the tropics. He has hardly played recently, i dont know if because of injury. But may have just been out of favour.

Anyway, he just has to do better than colosimo to be a good pick up. Cant be too hard.

 

[Deej]

Including the pre season cup against Syd CCM members get 12 home games.

exactly so it works out to be $15.83 per game

The Cove is $169 for an adult and that's for 10 games which is $16.90 per game

So depending on where you sit and how many games you'll be attending we could be seen as cheaper.

Depends how you want to spin it. They've priced the Cove slightly higher than their 'Bronze' (or basic GA) - it's $169 as opposed to $149, so people definitely self-select rather than accidentally winding up in there. It's still closer in price to the Bronze than Silver membership (which is $209), so it's basically to create some differentiation without making it a lot more pricey.

For students however, it's certainly cheaper to be buy a Cove season ticket than a Bay ticket - $119 as opposed to $190, or $11.90 per game as opposed to our $15.83.

If they get free entry to the match in Campbelltown against Queensland, you could call that 11 games included at $10.81 per game.

You'll note that there is no child's or family price on the Cove membership - reflecting the fact that it's not really a kids' area.

They *don't* remove student concessions, they probably think (as I do) that it's pointless and probably counterproductive to make it much more expensive in relative terms for students than anyone else. It's cheaper for our student members to go around the sides and sit in Gold reserved seats.

The point I was making was that for an adult to stand in Sydney's supporters area is more expensive than it is for a Mariners fan to stand in the bay, I never mentioned concessional prices, that conversation has been done to death!

Those general prices simply state what the cheapest seat is, there's a lot of other factors to consider!

At the end of the day IMO every club is selling their memberships for an extreamly reasonably low price, especially when I consider what I used to pay in the UK!

 

[marinersman]

The way I look at it is in V1 it was an unknown product and memberships had to be priced according to the fact that no one knew what they were going to see.

Three years later, it is a proven product that is growing rapidly in spectators, ratings, media coverage and overall interest. Clubs have every right to increase memebership prices.

As Deej said, it's ridiculously good value. There is no better way than to show your true support for your club than to become a member. It's the ultimate show of support and commitment.

In terms of the entertainment dollar it's fantastic value.

 

[dibo]

Including the pre season cup against Syd CCM members get 12 home games.

exactly so it works out to be $15.83 per game

The Cove is $169 for an adult and that's for 10 games which is $16.90 per game

So depending on where you sit and how many games you'll be attending we could be seen as cheaper.

Depends how you want to spin it. They've priced the Cove slightly higher than their 'Bronze' (or basic GA) - it's $169 as opposed to $149, so people definitely self-select rather than accidentally winding up in there. It's still closer in price to the Bronze than Silver membership (which is $209), so it's basically to create some differentiation without making it a lot more pricey.

For students however, it's certainly cheaper to be buy a Cove season ticket than a Bay ticket - $119 as opposed to $190, or $11.90 per game as opposed to our $15.83.

If they get free entry to the match in Campbelltown against Queensland, you could call that 11 games included at $10.81 per game.

You'll note that there is no child's or family price on the Cove membership - reflecting the fact that it's not really a kids' area.

They *don't* remove student concessions, they probably think (as I do) that it's pointless and probably counterproductive to make it much more expensive in relative terms for students than anyone else. It's cheaper for our student members to go around the sides and sit in Gold reserved seats.

The point I was making was that for an adult to stand in Sydney's supporters area is more expensive than it is for a Mariners fan to stand in the bay, I never mentioned concessional prices, that conversation has been done to death!

Those general prices simply state what the cheapest seat is, there's a lot of other factors to consider!

At the end of the day IMO every club is selling their memberships for an extreamly reasonably low price, especially when I consider what I used to pay in the UK!

it is cheaper for an adult, much more expensive for a student. both of these points are relevant, done to death or not.

the prices for season tickets in the UK aren't really relevant until we've had football as the dominant sport for a century, generations of support and investment in our clubs, between 19 and 23 home games and salary bills in the order of five to fifty times what ours is (never mind the simple fact that a person living in woy woy can't feasibly buy and use a season ticket for wycombe wanderers).

the reason for the memberships being more expensive in the cove is to ensure people are genuinely self-selecting to be in the cove and are putting money where their mouths are. i would support wholeheartedly any move to put this sort of system in place.

i also think this could be done in a way that would be much less unreasonable in its effects on students (and before the knockers come out in force, i've also made that clear in a letter to the club so i'm not just having a cry on here).

i'm getting a great deal, students aren't. whether done to death or not, i still think what the club has done is flat out wrong.

 

[Ursus]

We will get some additional matches this year from the youth league games that get played as curtain raisers.

 

[Deej]

Come on a $4 difference per game isn't a bad deal lol, I can see both arguments but am personally happy reserved seating is available and if people genuinely wanted a bay 16 membership they wouldn't care too much about cost (the payment plan option should be able to help a number of people to juggle finances)

On a positive note, bay 16 memberships are selling very well so if there's anyone out there who's still 50/50 do I want a bay membership or not you better make your decision soon so you can secure your seat.  Remember if you decide against it this year and change your mind for V5 you'll be given whatever the next available seat is.

 

[dibo]

if people genuinely wanted a bay 16 membership they wouldn't care too much about cost (the payment plan option should be able to help a number of people to juggle finances)

that's ok for either of us, but if we were asked to pay $300 (that's what the effective price hike is) then i imagine the sounds from the non-students would be different.