McKINNA OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Azza-Mataz]

Obviously no excepting a Sir Alex like reign by Lawrie, but really are their better alternatives out there?

my view is that after 3 finals appearances in 4 years we're not going too badly 

Dibo imo that fact is misleading.

If there were no finals series that record wouldn't look nearly so good.Not bad but far from brilliant.

But of course this is all being debated elsewhere.

But would it be worth a sacking??

 

[Arabmariner]

Obviously no excepting a Sir Alex like reign by Lawrie, but really are their better alternatives out there?

my view is that after 3 finals appearances in 4 years we're not going too badly 

Dibo imo that fact is misleading.

If there were no finals series that record wouldn't look nearly so good.Not bad but far from brilliant.

But of course this is all being debated elsewhere.

But would it be worth a sacking??

Probably not while he's got two years left on his contract.

But if we want to take the next step in the playing sense a move upstairs might be the go......if LM accepts that of course.

 

[Redline]

The big question though is who to replace him? No point in putting on another Australian coach IMO as we will only have more of the same as being dished up by the other teams. But who could we maybe afford?

 

[Jocwa08]

to the lawrie haters... just wait till the ACL
im very confident bout our ACL

 

[Azza-Mataz]

The big question though is who to replace him? No point in putting on another Australian coach IMO as we will only have more of the same as being dished up by the other teams. But who could we maybe afford?

Ian Rush said he was interested at one point! Inexperienced but...ITS IAN RUSH!!!

 

[dibo]

Obviously no excepting a Sir Alex like reign by Lawrie, but really are their better alternatives out there?

my view is that after 3 finals appearances in 4 years we're not going too badly 

Dibo imo that fact is misleading.

If there were no finals series that record wouldn't look nearly so good.Not bad but far from brilliant.

But of course this is all being debated elsewhere.

for a small town club (the smallest) with clearly less money than most, we'd be looking at 3rd, 6th, 1st and 4th. that's like the arabs winning the league and qualifying for the uefa cup qualifying rounds twice in two years.

 

[Arabmariner]

Obviously no excepting a Sir Alex like reign by Lawrie, but really are their better alternatives out there?

my view is that after 3 finals appearances in 4 years we're not going too badly 

Dibo imo that fact is misleading.

If there were no finals series that record wouldn't look nearly so good.Not bad but far from brilliant.

But of course this is all being debated elsewhere.

for a small town club (the smallest) with clearly less money than most, we'd be looking at 3rd, 6th, 1st and 4th. that's like the arabs winning the league and qualifying for the uefa cup qualifying rounds twice in two years.

If there was no salary cap I'd agree with you 100%!!

 

[dibo]

...in *four* years is what i meant in that last post, incidentally...

 

[Arabmariner]

The big question though is who to replace him? No point in putting on another Australian coach IMO as we will only have more of the same as being dished up by the other teams. But who could we maybe afford?

Ian Rush said he was interested at one point! Inexperienced but...ITS IAN RUSH!!!

Ian Rush has had one go at management at Chester in League 2.

He was heavily criticised for his *long ball tactics*................ ???

Sound familiar?

He left before he got the arse.

 

[kevrenor]

to the lawrie haters... just wait till the ACL
im very confident bout our ACL

Well I'm glad someone is.  I'm certainly not.

 

[blastbum]

In the first 5 years of when Sir Alex took the reigns of Man U, the fans were calling for his head. Can you imagine what would've happened if he did get the sack. Interesting how things turn around.

There are gunners fans who are calling for Arsene Wenger's head because it looks like they'll be missing the champions league spot. Sacking Arsene Wenger would be the worst thing to happen for Arsenal. Wenger is a quality coach who can and will turn things around next season.

Chelsea (aka Sydney FC) have shown their arrogance and impatience by sacking Scolari. For crying out loud, even blind Freddy can see that a revolving door policy is not beneficial to the long term success of a club.

We had a crap season in Season 2, but Lawrie turned it around and we won the premiership. Please stop this ridiculous "sack Lawrie" nonsense and start showing some faith and belief in your club.

 

[Arabmariner]

In the first 5 years of when Sir Alex took the reigns of Man U, the fans were calling for his head. Can you imagine what would've happened if he did get the sack. Interesting how things turn around.

That's true but Sir Alex already had a superb track record at smaller clubs.Each club he went to was bigger than the last and all his teams played attractive attacking football.

All he ever needed at Man U was a bit of time and I think the powers that be knew that.

I don't think LM's teams will be remembered for their attractive style of football.

 

[David Votoupal]

It's a good thing having this debate and I see your point.

However, these are radically different scenarios from the A-League. For one, those clubs are mature clubs in a mature competition. Arsenal have always been financially prudent and lived within their means, ergo, they will not be as badly affected by the current economic situation as the other big clubs- and a more level playing field will eventuate, which will be good for the Premiership and football as a whole.

Remember that when Ferguson took over, Man Utd hadn't won a League title for close to two decades- Liverpool were dominant, Everton won a couple of titles, while Nottingham Forest and Aston Villa won European Cups. Ferguson had plenty of room for improvement, as Wenger does now.

You can't compare those scenarios to the scenarios facing A-League clubs, which is a young competition with tight restrictions imposed by the FFA. Expectations are therefore different.

I'm not saying McKinna has to go, far from it, but it is a good idea to have a debate on how far he can take the club, with the impending changes in this league.

 

[Sean]

Yep that's the way to go...
Any time that i've been to a mariners training (when fergie was present) Lawrie was chatting to us alot of the time or even joining in with the training. Fergie ran the whole show and was constantly stopping play and actually coaching.

Lawrie is a manager, not a coach. So we need a new coach and take the workload off Lawrie so he can do what he is best at.

Talking to one of the lads from Youth who thinks Tobin is intelligent with the game and has alot to offer in coaching and teaching tactics etc. Does Tobin have much of a role in the main game? or is it just primarily youth?

 

[Sean]

When times are tough with the team and I feel heads should roll for our performances, I think to myself "things could be worse, we could be coached by....

Coached by this guy....

or this clown...

 

[LFCMariners]

We could be coached by either of them, and owned by an arrogant drunkard who threatens to throw us off the roof at Bluetongue for complaining...

 

[clarence]

Chelsea        have shown their arrogance and impatience by sacking Scolari. For crying out loud, even blind Freddy can see that a revolving door policy is not beneficial to the long term success of a club.

Maybe the management should be making enquiries about Scolari's availability? ;D

 

[Jesus]

Chelsea        have shown their arrogance and impatience by sacking Scolari. For crying out loud, even blind Freddy can see that a revolving door policy is not beneficial to the long term success of a club.

Maybe the management should be making enquiries about Scolari's availability? ;D

Well we have missed out on guus

 

[Bex]

Keep McKinna. See how we go next season. Management to give him the authority to choose the players he wants. We're all on a salary cap so its only the Marquee and Youth Marquee positions that require $$$$$. Management should support McKinna with this as well. Lets see if we can coax a Youth Marquee from Victory or Roar; one that fits in with our team and our playing style. A marquee player would be nice, but only if it really is a top class player that fits in with the rest of the team, fits in with our playing style and is not a high injury risk.

If we do that, then McKinna should have no reason not to get us into the finals next year. Then, I would expect to see a marked improvement on the teams spirit going into the finals. I get the feeling we were beaten before we walked onto the field in Brisbane. There was no passion to win in our gameplay. We were slow and lethargic with the ball and we were standing off the opposition allowing them to pass and run all around us all night. Where was all the marking? There was a slight improvement when we were 2-0 down, but thats how the game should have started IMO.

Oh well, can't win em all.

 

[elevated position]

Ahh bex you are on the right track with a youth marquee but Im starting to think that Vidmars politic's are not alone with adelaide.
Example we have a certain senior player who has shopped himself around the asian clubs and if I know so would his team mates and the club and this coincided with the jedi's transfer.
Jedi's form in his last four games was not that great. He was protecting himself and so would I.

question. Why have the club not appointed an assistant to LM? penny pinching.
Why were they the last to fill their youth team ? Penny pinching
Where are all the so called names that apparently had supplied resumes prior to january (im told the club was looking at 20)

However the biggest problem LM has he does not have an assistant coach (Alex tobin has to much on he's plate (penny pinching look at the youth results with a divdied coaching staff)
And that assistant has to be an ex midfielder of good note and has a successful training CV.

Watching the game from my position shows the gaps the open fields the plays who are working and the lazy ones. Our results show that with the right ball the strikers will nail goals but we do not have wingers that give them a chance they always have their back to goal and noone running off them so they easy defensive targets.

Mariners problems are in midfield and we dont have a midfield expert guiding them around the park. When we do, certain players will become world beaters and matty and dylan will become the dynamic duo they can be.
And as shown we need 1 mature CD  we have kids teaching kids.

Once again a defensive coach (tobin ) with too much on his plate.

Give LM an assistant and if he refuses ? Bye laurie thanks for the memories.
And dont feel sorry for him because if a better offer came he would leave.