McKINNA OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dibo]

Midfielder, you are right ... our defence is shit.  you will probably agree that we need to look O/S for a couple of defenders.  We could do with a few fast midfielders too.... and a decent striker.

what's this club got against bringing players from other parts of the world?

the money they cost and the questionable benefits? in a salary cap system the downside risks are magnified because if you spend a lot of dough on an import of no greater quality than your domestic players then it really is a complete waste.

for a miller and hernandez in this league you'll also get a jardel, a claeys, a drovandi, a patrick, a diego, a claudinho...

 

[midfielder]

Midfielder, you are right ... our defence is shit.  you will probably agree that we need to look O/S for a couple of defenders.  We could do with a few fast midfielders too.... and a decent striker.

what's this club got against bringing players from other parts of the world?

the money they cost and the questionable benefits? in a salary cap system the downside risks are magnified because if you spend a lot of dough on an import of no greater quality than your domestic players then it really is a complete waste.

for a miller and hernandez in this league you'll also get a jardel, a claeys, a drovandi, a patrick, a diego, a claudinho...

Dibo

It easy to make generalisation's but we need to fix our defense whether it's an overseas player or we find some kid or buy someone ...  we are crap at the back TBH right now and maybe we need to look at how good Clarkey was even if was only doing the calling ...  to me that seems to be the problem we do not have an organiser ... however that is a fans call its up to the coaching staff to fix it and given its been 17 months I think we can start to expect some results.

 

[dub]

Midfielder, you are right ... our defence is shit.  you will probably agree that we need to look O/S for a couple of defenders.  We could do with a few fast midfielders too.... and a decent striker.

what's this club got against bringing players from other parts of the world?

the money they cost and the questionable benefits? in a salary cap system the downside risks are magnified because if you spend a lot of dough on an import of no greater quality than your domestic players then it really is a complete waste.

for a miller and hernandez in this league you'll also get a jardel, a claeys, a drovandi, a patrick, a diego, a claudinho...

This is correct but as I have said since his first game we should have chained Boza to the Coast but our management felt they only needed him to fill those games that Danny was not available but now we can see that Bozza offered more than just saving penalties he organised the defence .

As I can see he is only working at fox and just training with Sydney he has not signed with them, he would not break the bank if we called him back.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Isnt Bozza hoping ot get back to the UK? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

He could easily keep at CCC level

 

[marinermick]

Isnt Bozza hoping ot get back to the UK? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

He could easily keep at CCC level

if danny goes overseas then it may well be

 

[Arabmariner]

Isnt Bozza hoping ot get back to the UK? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

He could easily keep at CCC level

if danny goes overseas then it may well be

I think Dannys lost something ( a bit of confidence maybe?) since the two send offs and subsequent suspensions.I can't see any overseas team chasing him in the near future tbh.

I agree that Bozza could keep at CCC level but who's after a keeper atm? I think he might need a season playing here before anyone from over there takes a punt on him.

I think it would do Wilko etc the world of good playing a season with Bozza in goals.

 

[marinermick]

Isnt Bozza hoping ot get back to the UK? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

He could easily keep at CCC level

if danny goes overseas then it may well be

I think Dannys lost something ( a bit of confidence maybe?) since the two send offs and subsequent suspensions.I can't see any overseas team chasing him in the near future tbh.

think again

 

[Arabmariner]

Isnt Bozza hoping ot get back to the UK? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

He could easily keep at CCC level

if danny goes overseas then it may well be

I think Dannys lost something ( a bit of confidence maybe?) since the two send offs and subsequent suspensions.I can't see any overseas team chasing him in the near future tbh.

think again

Do share your info 

 

[marinermick]

Isnt Bozza hoping ot get back to the UK? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

He could easily keep at CCC level

if danny goes overseas then it may well be

I think Dannys lost something ( a bit of confidence maybe?) since the two send offs and subsequent suspensions.I can't see any overseas team chasing him in the near future tbh.

think again

Do share your info 

overseas interest has been widely reported

 

[Arabmariner]

Isnt Bozza hoping ot get back to the UK? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

He could easily keep at CCC level

if danny goes overseas then it may well be

I think Dannys lost something ( a bit of confidence maybe?) since the two send offs and subsequent suspensions.I can't see any overseas team chasing him in the near future tbh.

think again

Do share your info 

overseas interest has been widely reported

I've kind of got to the stage of not believing most of the shit in the papers these days unless it's undisputed fact.Haven't read anything in particular about Danny anyway.

What countries are we talking about ?

 

[marinersman]

for a miller and hernandez in this league you'll also get a jardel, a claeys, a drovandi, a patrick, a diego, a claudinho...

Didn't we knock back Miller when we had the oportunity to sign him before Brisbane Roar? Surely with Fergie and various other reliable contacts associated with Rangers we could have done our research and found out about the guy's potential for our league? We were either lazy, negligent or complacent.

I accept there will be certain limitations on our spending, but when are we going to take an educated punt or follow a gut feel? Our safety first approach to signing players has not worked.

How far do we have to sink before we learn what we are doing is not working? Under Lawrie, we get a Scottish football ideology that is flawed, outdated and is no longer applicable and succesful in the HAL.

He is too rigid in his approach and we have been found out big time. It's now 4 months and 14 days since we last won and he hasn't displayed any evidence of turning the complete utter garbage on the pitch around. It's not acceptable and they're aren't too many moderate to successful clubs anywhere in the world who wouldn't have changed coaches by now.

When is enough enough?

 

[Sean]

From what I hear Lawrie isnt to blame on the failure to sign Charlie Miller. Boardroom rubbish.

 

[marinermick]

From what I hear Lawrie isnt to blame on the failure to sign Charlie Miller. Boardroom rubbish.

nor is fergie - both he and lawrie wanted miller signed

 

[marinersman]

Doesn't alter the fact we didn't sign him. Whether the decision comes from the board or Lawrie, we stuffed up big time. We're not signing the players we need to to win the Championship and ultimately the coach lives and dies by performances on the pitch

 

[Arabmariner]

for a miller and hernandez in this league you'll also get a jardel, a claeys, a drovandi, a patrick, a diego, a claudinho...

Didn't we knock back Miller when we had the oportunity to sign him before Brisbane Roar? Surely with Fergie and various other reliable contacts associated with Rangers we could have done our research and found out about the guy's potential for our league? We were either lazy, negligent or complacent.

I accept there will be certain limitations on our spending, but when are we going to take an educated punt or follow a gut feel? Our safety first approach to signing players has not worked.

How far do we have to sink before we learn what we are doing is not working? Under Lawrie, we get **LAWRIES** football ideology that is flawed, outdated and is no longer applicable and succesful in the HAL.

He is too rigid in his approach and we have been found out big time. It's now 4 months and 14 days since we last won and he hasn't displayed any evidence of turning the complete utter garbage on the pitch around. It's not acceptable and they're aren't too many moderate to successful clubs anywhere in the world who wouldn't have changed coaches by now.

When is enough enough?

I agree with most of that but please don't blame a whole nation for what Lawrie does or does not do!

Besides he's an Australian now!

 

[marinersman]

Point taken arab and please no offence intended. My heritage is Scottish way back and I love you guys far more than those south.  ;D

 

[dibo]

Doesn't alter the fact we didn't sign him. Whether the decision comes from the board or Lawrie, we stuffed up big time. We're not signing the players we need to to win the Championship and ultimately the coach lives and dies by performances on the pitch

You'd have to agree that we can't hold the coach responsible for those things he can't control, wouldn't you?

There's a lot of talk suggesting that he's got very little control over who gets signed - whether that's true or not is a matter for guesswork. To the extent that it's true, the blame for us not signing players of a higher standard (and cost) must surely lie somewhere outside the coach's office.

 

[Arabmariner]

Doesn't alter the fact we didn't sign him. Whether the decision comes from the board or Lawrie, we stuffed up big time. We're not signing the players we need to to win the Championship and ultimately the coach lives and dies by performances on the pitch

You'd have to agree that we can't hold the coach responsible for those things he can't control, wouldn't you?

There's a lot of talk suggesting that he's got very little control over who gets signed - whether that's true or not is a matter for guesswork. To the extent that it's true, the blame for us not signing players of a higher standard (and cost) must surely lie somewhere outside the coach's office.

The way I see it the coach/manager should be given a budget to work with.He should be making the decisions on player signings etc.He also takes responsibility for bad decisions and poor results etc

If decisions on player signings are being made in the boardroom by others we have problems.

Boardroom interference in football matters usually means trouble.

 

[marinersman]

Doesn't alter the fact we didn't sign him. Whether the decision comes from the board or Lawrie, we stuffed up big time. We're not signing the players we need to to win the Championship and ultimately the coach lives and dies by performances on the pitch

You'd have to agree that we can't hold the coach responsible for those things he can't control, wouldn't you?

There's a lot of talk suggesting that he's got very little control over who gets signed - whether that's true or not is a matter for guesswork. To the extent that it's true, the blame for us not signing players of a higher standard (and cost) must surely lie somewhere outside the coach's office.

It's not a get out of jail free card. It's part and parcel of being a manager. It's highly likely Lawrie is hamstrung by the board but it happens all around the world. I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying, but that's the reality, There's thousands of coaches everywhere that could (rightfully or wrongfully) complain that if the owners signed this or that player they would have finished higher on the ladder and his job would have been safe.

It goes with the job and at the end of the day it's not a valid excuse for the manager to keep his job in terms of the shareholders and supporters. There's always ifs and buts. Results on the pitch is all that's matters.

 

[shipwreck]

ArabMariner hit the nail on the head, either the boardroom has complete trust in Lawries decisions or they dont, if they dont, and we didnt get Miller despite Lawries input, then we have serious problems behind closed boardroom doors...