McKINNA OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[clarence]

FFC,
I'm sure that anyone who has read your many comments here, like I have, gets the impression that unless you are carted out unconscious, or get a call about an illness or death in your family, then you won't be leaving a match early!

I wasn't saying it was you, but merely highlighting your prev. comment to direct my comments from.

I thought the least this person could have done was to stay to the end, and see in full, what their sort of philosophy to the game brings in this day and age. And at least be man enough to stand and applaud the Kawasaki team for a good performance, which I have heard, many did do.

Mods can delete my posts if they think it is too over the top.

 

[adz]

huh? can I suggest just saying who it is or stfu about it?

 

[clarence]

huh? can I suggest just saying who it is or stfu about it?

NFP. end of.

 

[adz]

huh? can I suggest just saying who it is or stfu about it?

NFP. end of.

Probably the better option
Although... now I'm curious

 

[Wombat]

Mckinna , Caceres , Mrdja , Hutch , Wilko are all rubbish.

A bunch of turkeys could do better.

Porter is the only solid player

this comes from someone who calls an ACL shirt a J League shirt, can we really take you seriously?

How did Porter show he was solid last night?

Porter was the only one who defended any good.

They are think they are two good for their boots. They all train at Mingara gym where I train. None of em do anything or take it seriously. They all just f**k around or stand there. The only people you see training are Porter, Gumps and Wilko.

Porter tries hard and had a pretty good season BUT he is not a Right Back and does not know how to play there.
Positionally he is like a 10 year old.
I'm sure he is happy just to be playing and its not his fault but decent players will always find him out.

 

[Arabmariner]

So who would be the better supporter then........the bloke who leaves early when his teams getting thrashed 5-0..

or

the bloke who stays behind till the end to let the team know exactly what he thought of their efforts ?

The thing is all the diehards have their own way of dealing with absolute drubbings.....some leave because they can't take any more,others stay and give them heaps,some just leave quietly at the end and others clap politely and think it's all good.

The diehards still come back regardless of how they react to a drubbing.

 

[tugga]

Mckinna , Caceres , Mrdja , Hutch , Wilko are all rubbish.

A bunch of turkeys could do better.

Porter is the only solid player

this comes from someone who calls an ACL shirt a J League shirt, can we really take you seriously?

How did Porter show he was solid last night?

Porter was the only one who defended any good.

They are think they are two good for their boots. They all train at Mingara gym where I train. None of em do anything or take it seriously. They all just f**k around or stand there. The only people you see training are Porter, Gumps and Wilko.

Porter tries hard and had a pretty good season BUT he is not a Right Back and does not know how to play there.
Positionally he is like a 10 year old.
I'm sure he is happy just to be playing and its not his fault but decent players will always find him out.

Yes this is right, he needs to be in the midfield.

Ahh well at the end of the day you can only do what you can do with the players you have.

This loss is good for us as its a big reality shock, if we want to compete with the better teams. We really need to pull our finger out.

 

[midfielder]

An opinion is a belief that may or may not be backed up with evidence, but which cannot be proved with that evidence. An opinion is neither right nor wrong. It is normally a subjective statement and may be the result of an emotion or an interpretation of facts; people may draw opposing opinions from the same facts.

In economics, philosophy, and other social sciences talking about football, analysis based on opinion is referred to as normative analysis (what ought to be), as opposed to positive analysis, which is based on scientific observation (what materially is or is experimentally demonstrable and can never be applied to football).

Opinions can be persuasive, but only the facts they are based on can be said to be true or false.

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An opinion is a belief that may or may not be backed up with evidence, but which cannot be proved with that evidence. An opinion is neither right nor wrong. It is normally a subjective statement and may be the result of an emotion or an interpretation of facts; people may draw opposing opinions from the same facts.

In economics, philosophy, and other social sciences talking about football, analysis based on opinion is referred to as normative analysis (what ought to be), as opposed to positive analysis, which is based on scientific observation (what materially is or is experimentally demonstrable and can never be applied to football).

Opinions can be persuasive, but only the facts they are based on can be said to be true or false.

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What a lot of ****** ****!!

Imo.

Meaning what about what ... put this into a context ...

 

[Teddy Bear]

Waited and watched for McKinna to react after each goal was scored. Not once did he get off his ar*e and shout instructions or encouragement to the team. In comparison when Ferguson was around he was rarely seen sitting down. Not good enough Lawrie time to go.

 

[Bex]

I just hope the team is not in as big a shambles as this thread.

We got beat by a much better team. We played reasonably well for 30 minutes except for the set play weakness once again. The heads went down after the second goal and I suspect thats because our guys knew they were short on talent compared to Kawasaki.

On the other hand, I get the feeling we played into their hands. They tore us apart on the break. Does anyone think we could have done better taking a leaf out of Adelaide's book. That is, perhaps we should have sat back a bit more and showed a bit more patience. Lack of movement in midfield was a problem, but perhaps sitting back would have made a bit of space for that movement in midfield?

I don't know, I'm not sure going for the outright win against Kawasaki was a realistic goal. What do you think? Granted it was at home, but we've got to respect teams with talent over the park, especially when most of their team is faster than us, or we'll get a 5-0 drubbing every time. I guess I'm just wondering whether we played into their hands and made ourselves look worse than we really are.

As for Lawrie, pressure has been on him for the win; especially at home. Was this the game we had to win? Could we have still won it if we were patient for 75mins and then made a play for the win in the last 15? Its easy in hindsight to be smart. Did anyone really think we should have played for a draw before the game?

Am I up to 20 questions yet?

 

[astroboy]

While Im just has p*&^&% off as everyone else that was there on Wed night calling for Laurie to be sacked is going a bit far.

While Im just as biased as any other CCM fan, I actually enjoyed the game and was blow away by Kawasaki Frontale awesome display of the beautiful game, yes some of the goals was due to poor marking!

However this game just emphasized the disparity between the A- league & Japanese domestic teams and really the score line was an accurate reflection of the gulf in class between the two sides, with CCM unable to contain the far more technically superior Kawasaki Frontale plus they have been very consisted in the J- league finishing  2nd in  2006, 5th in  2007 & 2nd in 2008 & have a player roster of 34 players of which includes 3 Brazilians plus more $$$ than we will ever have alone compared to our 21 local players  plus remember to what happen to Adelaide in the ACL final which just once again proved the big difference between the A-league & the J- league clubs.

So just stop your bitching & get behind the lads !

Boy what a couple of days CCM losing 0-5 & my other love Liverpool FC losing 1-3 to Chelsea as well, time for a drink to 4get about all the above.

 

[Sean]

Please, f**king please spell our coach's name correctly.

 

[marinermick]

Waited and watched for McKinna to react after each goal was scored. Not once did he get off his ar*e and shout instructions or encouragement to the team. In comparison when Ferguson was around he was rarely seen sitting down. Not good enough Lawrie time to go.

you're right - yelling and abusing someone straight after they know they made a mistake will motivate them to do better  :  :  :  :  :

 

[FFC Mariner]

Waited and watched for McKinna to react after each goal was scored. Not once did he get off his ar*e and shout instructions or encouragement to the team. In comparison when Ferguson was around he was rarely seen sitting down. Not good enough Lawrie time to go.

you're right - yelling and abusing someone straight after they know they made a mistake will motivate them to do better  :  :  :  :  :

Really? Can someone tell the people I work for please. Negative motivation is a cultural norm

LOL

 

[Arabmariner]

Waited and watched for McKinna to react after each goal was scored. Not once did he get off his ar*e and shout instructions or encouragement to the team. In comparison when Ferguson was around he was rarely seen sitting down. Not good enough Lawrie time to go.

you're right - yelling and abusing someone straight after they know they made a mistake will motivate them to do better  :  :  :  :  :

The poor darlings might get upset if Lawrie shouts at them ?

???

 

[Razorback]

Waited and watched for McKinna to react after each goal was scored. Not once did he get off his ar*e and shout instructions or encouragement to the team. In comparison when Ferguson was around he was rarely seen sitting down. Not good enough Lawrie time to go.

you're right - yelling and abusing someone straight after they know they made a mistake will motivate them to do better  :  :  :  :  :

What should LM have done then?

Also I'm pretty sure he didn't mention "abuse" once in his post and was actually refering to encouragment! You obviously don't see the point of a pro-active manager and prefer someone who just sits on their hands!

 

[Deej]

Waited and watched for McKinna to react after each goal was scored. Not once did he get off his ar*e and shout instructions or encouragement to the team. In comparison when Ferguson was around he was rarely seen sitting down. Not good enough Lawrie time to go.

you're right - yelling and abusing someone straight after they know they made a mistake will motivate them to do better  :  :  :  :  :

The poor darlings might get upset if Lawrie shouts at them ?

???

There was plenty of shouting, perhaps ask 1 of the players how they are spending their public holidays?

Lawrie being the professional he is does not abuse his players in public, 1 reason I guess why so many players respect him

 

[FFC Mariner]

No manager (worth the name) should ever abuse their team in public. Public praise, private kicking is the way you are taught to do it.

Mind you, if LM yells behind closed doors, gives extra trainnig but they know nothing will happen to them (ie get the sack, or worse be replaced by Rizzo) then they will take the yelling and do nothing.

There must be consequence management or any discipline has no effect.

 

[David Votoupal]

There've been cases where managers have been made to look good by their assistants and staff, and go downhill once they go.

 

[Blair]

Waited and watched for McKinna to react after each goal was scored. Not once did he get off his ar*e and shout instructions or encouragement to the team. In comparison when Ferguson was around he was rarely seen sitting down. Not good enough Lawrie time to go.

you're right - yelling and abusing someone straight after they know they made a mistake will motivate them to do better  :  :  :  :  :

The poor darlings might get upset if Lawrie shouts at them ?

???

There was plenty of shouting, perhaps ask 1 of the players how they are spending their public holidays?

Lawrie being the professional he is does not abuse his players in public, 1 reason I guess why so many players respect him

He hardly ever shouted at the player at all.
+ all the best managers hardly ever yell n scream ala Fergi