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Bear

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So if that team has weekness all over the park, who do we have in your opinion that would be better suited?

Or is there nobody good enough for your lofty standards at the CCMFC?
 

Razorback

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marinermick said:
and i challenge you to go and look at the replay (on fox all the time) and tell me how many times hutch hoofed the ball up field - very, very little if ever. hutch rarely did that in the normal season let alone the different tactics of wednesday night

people conveniently make up analysis through their own predisposed prejudices and sometimes i think they rarely watch games with any thought or reasoning as to why it is happening

Congratulations you've just described every post of yours I've ever read!

And regarding hutch I was referring to how many times he passed it pack to the back four before it being hoofed up field. Apparently its on Fox sports all the time you should check it out!

Do me a favour stop commenting on my posts (I'll do the same regarding yours) because I'm bored of reading your opinion regarding how well our club is going atm
 

dibo

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I'm finding it faintly hilarious that there are the 'woe betide us' brigade who are perfectly willing to hurl shit, but they can't see the slice of the positive nor imagine any way to move forward.

I dread the thought that the club takes these people seriously, or that one day these people might become the majority and we become a shell of a club like Sydney.

No loyalty for or from the players nor the coaches, no love for the supporters and none from them either. It's an unhappy marriage, each party sitting around hoping against hope that one day the romance will come back.

We are not like that, we should never be like that. The club must respect us and build not just for this season but for the future. We must also respect them and let them build.

If all we do is carp, we deserve nothing better than a club like Sydney.
 

David Votoupal

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I agree that changing and chopping is far from healthy. But I also think that every club reaches a point where it is at the crossroads, where there is a line between stability and stagnation.

The standard of the league will improve, the stakes will be raised significantly with expansion, the club needs to think of how it will stay in touch.

It is also abundantly clear that the club's conservative attitude to player recruitment is also a likely albatross around its neck.
 

Arabmariner

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Part_Timer said:
David Votoupal said:
It is also abundantly clear that the club's conservative attitude to player recruitment is also a likely albatross around its neck.

or we are skint of coin atm
20 or 30 years from now Melbourne and Sydney will be the Celtic and Rangers of the a-league (should it survive that long) and CCM will be a small club fluctuating between the premier league and the 1st division.

Not what I want to happen it's just what I think will happen.
 

Ted

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IMO, I think a good cross section of possesional passing play and long ball tactics is a damn fine mix.
 

Sean

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dibo said:
I'm finding it faintly hilarious that there are the 'woe betide us' brigade who are perfectly willing to hurl shit, but they can't see the slice of the positive nor imagine any way to move forward.

I dread the thought that the club takes these people seriously, or that one day these people might become the majority and we become a shell of a club like Sydney.

No loyalty for or from the players nor the coaches, no love for the supporters and none from them either. It's an unhappy marriage, each party sitting around hoping against hope that one day the romance will come back.

We are not like that, we should never be like that. The club must respect us and build not just for this season but for the future. We must also respect them and let them build.

If all we do is carp, we deserve nothing better than a club like Sydney.

Agreed. This attitude is infectious and is effecting the bay also. Reason why we sound shit? want to know why its now pretty much only half a dozen singing? because the regulars in the bay, the newbies and the bandwagoners are now more willing (and encouraged by some) to stand there with hands on their hips and slag the team. FFS the team needs us more than we need them. If youre one of these "supporters" have a think and if youre not in the bay to support and try to lift the team, upgrade your membership and f**k off down the sidelines and hang shit on them there. Its effecting our support.
 

Razorback

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dibo said:
I dread the thought that the club takes these people seriously, or that one day these people might become the majority and we become a shell of a club like Sydney.

9000 to a semi dibo, we are already a shell of what we were the previous year! The missing 10,000 from the previous year is the majority, 6000 to the opening ACL match and Pohang brought more supporters than Adelaide or QLD ever do! Do you see what I am saying?

Obviously the people on the forum will support the club regardless and to feel frustrated by current performances is nothing to feel bad about. Its the missing 10,000 which gave the mariners its first profit need to be made to feel that they are important to club also and strategies need to be put in place to bring them back to game.

Being a Rugby League heartland means that the club needs to be pro-active regarding this issue and the stagnation and recent poor performances of the current team and not going to win these fans back. Success on the field will usually breed success off the field and these rugby league fans are always going to support a winning team but will also just wait at home for the RL season to start when we are not winning. In our market it is vital that the mariners are a successful football team or we will continue to see poor crowds.

Sean, I don't think slagging fans who are clearly frustrated with current events but still go to the games to support the team achieves anything! "f**k off and sit on the sideline instead of the bay" comments is probably why the numbers and noise from the bay are so disappointing and a reason why I have never wasted my time by sitting in the bay. As much fun as it does look when we are winning, being shot down by dickheads who think they "own" the bay when they want to start a chant has never looked appealing to me. Maybe this needs to be addressed and getting some solidarity will bring the numbers back to the bay. Or maybe, just maybe these are the fans that are leaving the game because they are sick of wasting their money and getting nothing back in return from team and the bay.
 

Paolo

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Razorback said:
Pohang brought more supporters than Adelaide or QLD ever do! Do you see what I am saying?
i dont...please clarify. What does adelaide and and qlds away crowds have to do with our club?

Razorback said:
Being a Rugby League heartland means that the club needs to be pro-active regarding this issue and the stagnation and recent poor performances of the current team and not going to win these fans back.
Im sick of this rugby league heartland shit. We have never had a side(our own side) whilst there is a national football side....on top of that the junior, senior and female participation levels of football dwarf the participation levels of league.

Imo that would make this more of a Football heartland rather then a league one
 

Razorback

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Paolo said:
Razorback said:
Pohang brought more supporters than Adelaide or QLD ever do! Do you see what I am saying?
i dont...please clarify. What does adelaide and and qlds away crowds have to do with our club?
The Pohang fans had a better impact on our overall crowd figure than a regular season game against Adelaide, Qld or Perth.
Razorback said:
Being a Rugby League heartland means that the club needs to be pro-active regarding this issue and the stagnation and recent poor performances of the current team and not going to win these fans back.
Im sick of this rugby league heartland shit. We have never had a side(our own side) whilst there is a national football side....on top of that the junior, senior and female participation levels of football dwarf the participation levels of league.

Imo that would make this more of a Football heartland rather then a league one

Then explain where these supporters are
 

Sean

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Razorback said:
Sean, I don't think slagging fans who are clearly frustrated with current events but still go to the games to support the team achieves anything! "f**k off and sit on the sideline instead of the bay" comments is probably why the numbers and noise from the bay are so disappointing and a reason why I have never wasted my time by sitting in the bay. As much fun as it does look when we are winning, being shot down by dickheads who think they "own" the bay when they want to start a chant has never looked appealing to me. Maybe this needs to be addressed and getting some solidarity will bring the numbers back to the bay. Or maybe, just maybe these are the fans that are leaving the game because they are sick of wasting their money and getting nothing back in return from team and the bay.

These certain people are a minority Razorback and im in no way trying to tell people what to do, but still this attitude spreads throughout the bay and now not many people are there to try and lift the team anymore, yes most are vocal, but the meaning of a supporter group has been lost. Im not going to tell people what to do, but these people who spend their time standing and berating the team (and even during the periods when we do play good football) need to rethink what theyre doing in bay 16.
 

bjw

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fwiw.. the reason bay 16 numbers have been down this season is because of the $190 membership to sit in the bay
 

Razorback

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Is that in addition to actually paying to get into the game? What you get for the $190 and where does the cash go?
 

kevrenor

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Razorback said:
Is that in addition to actually paying to get into the game? What you get for the $190 and where does the cash go?
That is adult season ticket, reserved seating ... no more, no less (discounting any dubious Mariners members 'benefits').
 

Wombat

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Bearinator said:
So if that team has weekness all over the park, who do we have in your opinion that would be better suited?

Or is there nobody good enough for your lofty standards at the CCMFC?

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Jimmy

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kevrenor said:
Razorback said:
Is that in addition to actually paying to get into the game? What you get for the $190 and where does the cash go?
That is adult season ticket, reserved seating ... no more, no less (discounting any dubious Mariners members 'benefits').

Benefits? :p
 

clarence

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brennan said:
fwiw.. the reason bay 16 numbers have been down this season is because of the $190 membership to sit in the bay

I thought the idea of Bay 16 was to stand up and sing & chant? Those who go there to sit, should think of somewhere else to go.

Jimmy said:
kevrenor said:
Razorback said:
Is that in addition to actually paying to get into the game? What you get for the $190 and where does the cash go?
That is adult season ticket, reserved seating ... no more, no less (discounting any dubious Mariners members 'benefits').

Benefits? :p

I reckon the club are so close to the wind should there be a complaint to Fair Trading & Consumer Affairs about this 'member' bs. FFS it's only a reserved seat for a season, in a graded seating scheme & very little else. The word 'member' implies some sort of voting right or ownership, neither of which the Mariners Members have.

Whoopsie! Thread hijack alert.........going off track here. :p
 
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