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Mariners Squad - HAL 14 - 2018- 2019 - The challenge for Mike Mulvey is over

Big Al

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Yeah it also helps keeps energy up, gives purpose and demonstrates an ambition to improve I think. We can't out buy anyone so we HAVE to outwork them. Also a stream of hungry kids helps remind everyone that we're one of the handful of elite football clubs in the country and how lucky anyone is to have a professional contract with us. Mulvey clearly believes in doing the hard, meaningful yards. Such a long way to go, but like everything I've seen and heard so far.
As long as all recruits aren’t NPL players. A few no problems.

Kenny is making the step at Victory and you get one a year but can’t have to many
 

Forum Phoenix

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Why is that none of our truly fast players seem to know how to dribble anymore? From Leckie to Trent I've seen no change... hard skill... should be watching Thierry Henry videos on repeat.
 

FFC Mariner

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4 goals in 50 appearances and couldn't get a start for the spoon winners.

I'm sure we will survive him leaving
 

Offsider

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Never been a fan ............. in the future he will be an asset to somebody if his talent ever catches up with his feet.

To be fair, he showed as much as any other forward this past season.

Cheers:cheers:
 

Wombat

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Why is that none of our truly fast players seem to know how to dribble anymore? From Leckie to Trent I've seen no change... hard skill... should be watching Thierry Henry videos on repeat.


Yep and Eddie Gray, Arthur Graham and Peter Barnes from Leeds should be compulsory viewing.

John Barnes, Chris Waddle, David Ginola.

 

Wombat

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LOL.
Baro is an experinced defender and a good one. Golec showed alot of promised and improved to be one of our best.
Our Dutch Middies are not defenders but are defensively minded. Melling is a fringe player and is also a Midfielder.
Kennedy is very average. Decent number 2, poor Number 1.

So we need another CB to support or improve Baro and Golec. We also need a starting LB and a starting RB and we definately need a starting quality keeper something we havent had for 3 years....hence the 2 wooden spoons.

Personaly i've played with better keepers than Kennedy and back 4's vastly more organised than ours......and i'm a mug fullback.
 

Offsider

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:tv::tv:
LOL.
Baro is an experinced defender and a good one. Golec showed alot of promised and improved to be one of our best.
Our Dutch Middies are not defenders but are defensively minded. Melling is a fringe player and is also a Midfielder.
Kennedy is very average. Decent number 2, poor Number 1.

So we need another CB to support or improve Baro and Golec. We also need a starting LB and a starting RB and we definately need a starting quality keeper something we havent had for 3 years....hence the 2 wooden spoons.

Personaly i've played with better keepers than Kennedy and back 4's vastly more organised than ours......and i'm a mug fullback.


So you’re not a fan of Kennedy ................ I get that.
But to blame him for two wooden spoons is a bit rich. He also made some game saving efforts and was continually selected over the others #2’s

Splitting hairs on the “dyke pluggers” ......... defensively minded??? .......... close enough. Melling is a defensive mid.

Organising the back four will be better under mm ............ of which okon’s tactics were the main problem.

So I guess we agree to disagree ??? ......... where have I heard that before :tv:
 

BaysideMariner

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TBT and Lachie leaving is so disappointing. Not wanting to be a part of your home town is really poor. I hope both have a really great reason to leave us. I will watch both with excitement around their results, but that will be only based around the CC ability to develop our youth.
 

marinermick

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Why is that none of our truly fast players seem to know how to dribble anymore? From Leckie to Trent I've seen no change... hard skill... should be watching Thierry Henry videos on repeat.

It is because they have never had to develop their technique because they are fast. They always had the inside running in rep teams because of this.

Having that much pace gives you such a competitive advantage that they were not often thrust in game situations growing up where they needed to develop their touch and technique.

These two boys will go down the path of Mitch Austin, though Wales may have a chance as he is a better footballer than Buhagiar.
 

Wombat

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:tv::tv:


So you’re not a fan of Kennedy ................ I get that.
But to blame him for two wooden spoons is a bit rich. He also made some game saving efforts and was continually selected over the others #2’s

Splitting hairs on the “dyke pluggers” ......... defensively minded??? .......... close enough. Melling is a defensive mid.

Organising the back four will be better under mm ............ of which okon’s tactics were the main problem.

So I guess we agree to disagree ??? ......... where have I heard that before :tv:


Most of your posts??? LOL.

Kennedy has only been here this season and was slighty better than Izzo and Ivan. So he is only responsible for this year's spoon. He was good until the last few weeks when "John The Bookie" must have bumped into him at Terrigal. His last few games were terrible culminating in a sub-Trott performance (something only Izzo has ever managed before)

You do understand that you normally have 1 Goalkeaper, 4 defenders. 4 or 5 Middies and 1 or 2 strikers depending on the team set up.

So i'm not splitting hairs at all. The Cheese Eaters are both fine players and we can thank them that Okon and his retarded puppet are gone.

But they are not defenders buddy.
 

Capn Gus Bloodbeard

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Why is that none of our truly fast players seem to know how to dribble anymore? From Leckie to Trent I've seen no change... hard skill... should be watching Thierry Henry videos on repeat.
Because all you need to do to attack in most leagues is hoof the ball over the sweeper to the sprinting attacker and hope that if he shoots enough times he accidentally gets one in.
Or if that player has the ball and is facing a defender, just knock it to the side and sprint. Even watching Premier League on the coast, it's amazing how often that's all the attack is.

Get to a good league with defenders that can block those plays a bit better, and suddenly they've lost the 1 trick to get around defenders. So all they're left with is speed.

And they probably never really learned how to shoot either. Especially not against a particularly good keeper.
 

Forum Phoenix

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It is because they have never had to develop their technique because they are fast. They always had the inside running in rep teams because of this.

Having that much pace gives you such a competitive advantage that they were not often thrust in game situations growing up where they needed to develop their touch and technique.

These two boys will go down the path of Mitch Austin, though Wales may have a chance as he is a better footballer than Buhagiar.

Cheers Mick. That certainly fits and it sounds as though not that much has changed on the past decade despite the national curriculum and the supposed greater focus on technical development? Still rewarding athletes over footballers?

The technical improvements so far have seemed to translate to better passing but little else that I can tell. Current system seems to suck the creativity right of upcoming players. Not sure where Rogic would be if it was not for indoor. And our purported wunderkids like Da Silva seem to be proving not so wondrous once they go OS.
 

Forum Phoenix

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Because all you need to do to attack in most leagues is hoof the ball over the sweeper to the sprinting attacker and hope that if he shoots enough times he accidentally gets one in.
Or if that player has the ball and is facing a defender, just knock it to the side and sprint. Even watching Premier League on the coast, it's amazing how often that's all the attack is.

Get to a good league with defenders that can block those plays a bit better, and suddenly they've lost the 1 trick to get around defenders. So all they're left with is speed.

And they probably never really learned how to shoot either. Especially not against a particularly good keeper.

Yes agree, but it’s the seeming lack of coaching in this regard that astounds me. Which I think Mick spoke to.
 

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