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Mariners Squad - HAL 12 - 2016 - 2017

MrCelery

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Didn't see a pre season thread so I figured I'd chuck a quick review thing in here of the boys game today against the scum.

Starting XI was:
Ivan
Neil Faty Monty Ascroft
Tavares L.Rose
Pain Fabio Buhagiar
O'donovan

Starting XI from the Jets that I remember in no particular order:
Kennedy, Hoffman, Mullen, Kantarovski, Ugarkovic, Hoole, Brown, Nabbout, Clut, Poljak. I think I'm only missing one...may have been Cowburn but not 100% sure.

Definitely a slow start by us. Struggled to get combos going. With Monty and Faty at CB we definitely looked less panicked but there's not a lot of pace there if we get stuck on the counter which was an issue last season. Faty was constantly talking to the back 3 and Rose in front of him. Definitely a calming influence on the back line. I think I heard Ivan talk today more than Izzo did all last season. He made a cracking save from close range as well. I criticised signing him but he did look good.
Service to Roy was again an issue and he was getting visibly frustrated. An issue that will remain IMO unless we get a class 10. Powell or Fabio in there won't fix it.
Liam Rose is a class above. Arguably, or obviously to some, our best player. If he stays past Janunary I'd be very surprised. If he goes and we don't have a plan we will be in a world of hurt. Lots of suggestion that he could play 10 but he's best suited to DM IMO.
Pain was looking lively and always wanted the ball. With more game time under his belt he will come good I think.
Brown looked okay for the Jets. Scored a cracker from outside the box to put them 1-0 up just before the break.


Second half XI was:
Ivan
Neil Mcging Monty Ascroft
Berry L.Rose
Appiah Powell Fabio
O'donovan

Jets XI was the same I think.

We played a bit better in the second half. Powell did make a difference behind Roy wits his attack on the ball but like I said before, long term he isn't the solution to us creative problems.
Appiah....well he runs fast? Did some *okay* things but it never comes to anything. He will win the ball back then run really fast and lose it.
Berry is great and teamed up well with L.Rose. If he develops like I think he can he could possible be the replacement for Liam when he inevitably goes.
Roy scored our goal about halfway through the half. Neil whipped a ball in which was headed clear by the Jets, fell to L.Rose who had a long range shot, was deflected to Fabio who headed it down for Roy who finished from just outside the 6 yard box.

Subs that were made during the half:
Bingham for Fabio, Fletcher for Roy, Mcdonald for Neil, J.Rose for Ascroft, Peterson (CCM NPL) for L.Rose and Papadimitrios (CCM NPL) for Monty.

Fletcher impressed when he came n up top. I'm hoping for big things from him this season. Was underdone when he arrived last season.
One thing to note was Izzo was the only player to get no game time. At one stage Hutcho called a sub to stop warming up and get ready. Izzo shook his head then 5 minutes later I looked at the bench and he was gone. Never came back and didn't come back out at full time.
Posco has a niggle. He was in the gym this afternoon so hopefully he will be fit for next week but who knows.
Overall not a lot of action but a decent hit out. Nothing overly surprising but nothing to get insanely exited about either. It's early days but we will have to play better next week against Green Gully. If we lose to them World War 3 could possibly be around the corner.

That's my shitty run down of this afternoon

Newcastle's viewpoint of the game:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4...e-cracking-goal-on-jets-debut-i-video/?cs=306
 

Paolo

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Everyone can stop dreaming of any further additions. Was informed today that our recruitment for the season is complete.
 
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Rowdy

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Newcastle's viewpoint of the game:
Both sides fielded starting sides close to full strength, and Newcastle would have gained confidence after leading 1-0 at half-time. They also forced Izzo to tip the ball onto the bar from a glancing header.

Izzo apparently didn't even play :confused:

Scummer's - deaf, dumb & blind !
 

JoyfulPenguin

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CONNOR PAIN: The Man Behind the Mariner
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Jade Toomey catches up with Connor Pain
Wednesday, 27 July 2016 -
Jade Toomey, @jadeetoomey
In our first of a series of interviews with the new Mariners recruits, we sat down with Connor Pain to hear about his life off the football pitch and how he is settling in on the Coast.
In many ways, Connor Pain is just like any other twenty-something. He enjoys a round of golf, likes a bit of banter with the boys, and his first taste of living away from home on the Central Coast has seen him conquer the washing machine without having to call home, just yet.

What differs, though, between Connor and the average Gen-Y bloke, is that he’s a pro footballer with a cracking left foot. He has his own Wikipedia page, for starters, and the 22-year-old can already claim a Socceroos cap and a Youth World Cup campaign to his name, oh and he also made headlines in 2013 for a stand out performance against Liverpool FC.

Now, enjoying life in the Central Coast, the Melbourne boy will don Yellow and Navy this season set to bolster the Mariners attacking stocks ahead of Hyundai A-League 2016/17.

“It’s a bit of a change from Melbourne, something different,” Pain said. “But the boys have been really welcoming and I’ve moved in with a couple of them.” Pain said.

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Storm Roux and Liam Rose, his Terrigal flatmates, popped their heads in during our interview to hassle him after training. They’ll often carpool together, Pain said, and have a communal kitchen.

“We cook together and eat together and car pool, I’m with Stormy today,” Pain said.

“I try and cook every so often. I’m terrible, absolutely terrible. I’ve got good pasta down packed, it’s a bit of a variety: it’s got pesto and mushrooms and bacon. I’ll claim that, that’s my claim to fame,” Pain said.

Australian football fans would undoubtedly add further credit to his name than cooking pasta, and Pain has an aim to give Mariners supporters plenty to cheer about this season.

“I’m hoping to bring some attacking flair I guess, something a bit different, get in behind the fullbacks and create some chances,” Pain said. “It’s going to take some time to get used to the patterns and there’re a lot of games coming up to do that.”

One of those games is the Mariners’ upcoming Westfield FFA Cup Round of 32 match against Green Gully Soccer Club next Tuesday August 2 in Melbourne.

As much as he’s a Melbourne boy at heart, the winger has loved his time travelling as a professional footballer. Of the 2012 U20 World Cup tour he said “It was awesome to go over [to Europe] and play against some of the best players in the world, all the cliché stuff really, it was probably the best thing,” Pain said.

The expectations, pressure and sacrifices that come with being a professional footballer are not lost to the Hong Kong born attacker.

“I just don’t think about it really, I just shut it out of my head. I treat every game like it’s a game, not about your livelihood. I just kind of play it to enjoy it so that’s something I’ve learnt over the last couple of years I’ve been pro.”

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Perhaps he learnt from his granddad, Tommy Casey who managed over 300 professional appearances with the likes of Newcastle United, Bournemouth & Bristol City how to play in the big leagues.

Casey’s career highlights include an FA Cup title with Newcastle where they defeated Manchester City 3-1 in the final and a 1958 FIFA World Cup World Cup appearance with Northern Ireland.

“I sort of grew up with his impact on Mum and him pushing me into football when I was young – not forcing me, but encouraging me - to play football.” Pain said.

His father, Craig Pain, was a rugby player and coach in Hong Kong [where Connor was born and lived for 8 years], so elite sportsmanship is clearly a genetic trait. But as a “just in case, thing,” Pain will add a commerce degree to his name.

“I’m just doing it part time, I’ve only got a year and a half to go now and I’m doing alright, pretty proud of myself.”

With a football game that varies a touch more than his variety of cooking, we’re sure that Mariners’ supporters will have plenty to cheer about when they see Connor in action for the first time this season.

Stay tuned for more ‘Man Behind the Mariner’ stories with our other exciting new recruits.

Want to know something specifically about one of our players? Tweet us @ccmariners and we will do our best to answer.

Masterfood quality sauce:
http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/connor-pain-the-man-behind-the-mariner/uc1pzxvts7d1dzwfjpnuaqhm
 

Forum Phoenix

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Doesn't like the idea he's set to be number 2 this year I guess. Getting sick and tired of junior players throwing tantrums when they lose their place instead of putting their heads down and fighting for their spots. He does not have Walmsley to blame for his glut of unforced errors and poor performances last season. Defended him because he was young and developing. But needs to pull his head in now.
 

Rowdy

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Pain reveals it was second time lucky to leave Victory:
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Connor Pain revealed he had sought a move from Melbourne Victory last year, for the sake of his career, and when the opportunity finally came to leave, via a player swap, he readily accepted it.

Pain, now at Central Coast Mariners, stressed there was no bad blood between himself and Victory, but said because he was hardly playing any football there, he needed to make a move with the aim of getting back on the field regularly.

When the Victory went after Central Coast winger Mitch Austin, the Mariners didn’t want to let Austin go, but the player wanted to leave and the three-time A-League champions offered Pain as a swap. Central Coast eventually agreed on that deal last month.

While it was widely assumed that Pain hadn’t sought a move away from the club, the 22 year-old told The World Game it was exactly what he needed to kick-start his career, after he was getting less and less game-time for the Victory and either playing off the bench or not at all.

"Leaving wasn’t really a problem at all, because I’d been sort of trying to get out," Pain said.

"I’d reached the stage where I was no longer happy there, obviously not playing as much as I wanted to play. The year previous I wanted to move on and it didn’t happen, for whatever reason.

"I wasn’t privy to conversations, because I hadn’t spoken to anyone at Victory about it, and my manager handles that, but they weren’t prepared to let me go at that stage.

"So it just worked out well for both parties when the swap became possible, because I couldn’t do another year there, under the same circumstances, and they got a player they deemed good enough to replace me.

"I guess both parties would be pretty happy with that, to be honest.

"There’s no bad blood. It wasn’t like they came to me and said ‘oh, we want Mitch, will you go?’ Like, I went to them and said ‘look, I want to go, what can we do?’. There’s no bad blood and there’s no issue, really. It kind of worked out for both of us."

Left-winger Pain, 22, has a fine history of representative football in Australia's under-20 and under-23 sides and also has one Socceroos cap, but there were so many established big names in the Victory attack that it simply made it hard for him to establish himself there.

And when the amount of game-time he was getting kept decreasing, he knew he had to act if a good opportunity emerged elsewhere.

"Yeah, it just got to the stage where I thought I needed a change," he said.

"It wasn’t really one of those ‘I have to go, I have to go’ on the spot things, but when the chance did come up, I wanted to jump at it.

"Not playing as much as you want to somewhere, and another door opens and you go through.

"There were no personality clashes or anything like that, I just needed to play more, to be able to develop and improve as a player.

"I respect everything Victory did for me there. Obviously they preferred other players to me throughout the course of the time I was there and I’m actually really grateful they did let me go, over the moon that ‘Muscy’ (coach Kevin Muscat) gave me that chance.

"There’s a handshake at the end of the day and we’re all happy. There was no controversy or anything, I just needed to be playing. Hopefully, if I’m playing more games at Mariners, I can just enjoy football again.

"Getting paid to train and just play a little bit, that’s not what you want to do, and that’s no disrespect to anyone at Victory, they had very good players there.

"But after being there for three-and-a-bit years, I sort of said to myself ‘it’s not really working, is it’."

Pain said he was loving it at Central Coast, living at Terrigal and looking forward to the new season.

Things will ramp up a bit though, when the Mariners play Victorian NPL side Green Gully in a round of 32 FFA Cup match at Green Gully on Tuesday.

"It’s been good so far," Pain said.

"I’ve been here for a month now. I’m a Melbourne boy and I’m living at Terrigal with a couple of the other boys and I’m finding it easy to settle in, to be honest. Completely different, but very enjoyable.

"Now I’m looking to make a success of the football side of it.

"Maybe I wasn’t doing everything in my power to play more football at Victory, I don’t know, but all I want to do is play more football and I’m working hard to do that.

"I’m just happy now to be up here in a new environment and pushing towards the start of the season. I know I’m capable of being a regular starter and I can show that."

Pain said he was gradually forming good understandings with last season’s leading Mariners striker, Roy O’Donovan, and new signing Blake Powell, among other teammates.

"They’re the guys whose heads I want to be trying to put the ball on when I cross it," he said.

"We’ve had a couple of friendly trial games and I’m starting to build some good combinations with the other guys.

"I get to the ball to them, they get the ball to me. I need to be able to link with them as well as possible.

"We’ve already had some encouraging signs as a team. The recruitment has been fantastic. We’ve picked up some really good players and we’ve put together a very solid outfit."
 

Rowdy

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As Pain says, he hardly got any game time in his 3.5 yrs to develop, yet still managed a Socceroo cap.

Whereas Austin had every game handed to him on a platter to develop & DIDN'T !!

Both similar in speed, with Austin clearly physically stronger, by sheer size of him - which I think hindered him when trying to beat players 1v1, combined with his lack of skills in dribbling.

BUT this IS where Pain is streets ahead in the technical dept. in terms of going forward with the ball at feet, having a lower centre of gravity (being smaller) helps him beat players in tight areas and when defenders jump in to close him down whilst he's at speed going forward, in Austin's case - he would just lose it 9 times out of 10, leaving us all :confused:.

I think Pain will also show to be much more industrious in defence with a better ethic of 'onus of responsibillity' & he's is also a better crosser of the ball.

All up, I think we've ended up with the better 'prospect' of the 2 & now, with the chance of more game-time to develop, Pain will hopefully have the brighter trajectory of the 2 going forward.

Austins future may be one of regret.:doh:
 

Coach

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One benefit not mentioned I think is the freedom Pain will allow Rose & Neill. Both are attacking FB's that want to get foward and overlap but they looked subdued last season concerned that the left half would not cover. Pain will track back. Last year it seemed that both these guys had a force field in front of them just over half way.
 

MagpieMariner

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Just been re-watching the 7-2 slaughter of SFC back in the glory year, and realised Ivan the Terrible was keeper for FC that day. He will therefore be so hungry to erase that memory, he may well out-Ryan Maty.
 

Rowdy

Well-Known Member
Charlesworth has already left the pub before the 'last drinks!' call has even been heard for this season.

Let's hope he feels 'thirsty' come the January transfer window.
 

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