Mariners Squad - HAL 12 - 2016 - 2017

[dibo]

Dear Tony,

Can you please tell us what you saw of Ivan Necesvki that impressed you last season, to justify your signing of him ???

Considering,
Ivan NECESVKI played a Grand Total of:
Zero mins, in Zero games
Over a possible 28 rounds.

Whereas an alternative option was,
Ante COVIC who played:
2,520 mins, in EVERY FCKN GAME (28) last season !!!!
On top of ALL of Perth Glory’s FFA Cup games right through to the Final vs Melb.Victory.

So seeing Necesvki played didn't play a single minute, was there some unbelievable, 'freaky-arse' saves he pulled off at the x3 half-time warm ups that caught your eye @ CCS when walking back out to the pitch after having your cup of tea ???

Mate, after the shit-house season you just offered up, your a bloke who is in desperate need of a quality, experienced & reliable GK that can bring about stability to a back third thats basically shell-shocked.

A 40 year old Covic ticks ALL THOSE BOXES.

Ante was desperate to move back to Syd to be united full-time with his wife and kids & is a player stating he's wanting to continue playing & would've (imo) been prepared to play for the $$$'s you're now going to pay a 36 year old Ivan Necesvki.

Stupid - Stupid signing.

That's all great, but what if Covic doesn't want to play for us or is otherwise unavailable?

Shane Cansdell-Sherriff perhaps, ???

Fair bet, given style has been spruiking him for a while.

 

[midfielder]

We let go a very promising keeper in the opinion of most better than the new keeper signed...

Maybe we should be re named to SFC Old Boys FC ...

I can't think of a single positive in this decision... and anyone looking at coming to our side will be looking at our signings ..

We are a very successful club and up until two years ago were the top club just in front of the Roar....

I am getting a sense of an awful season coming with arguably a working example of the Peter Principal as coach...

The essence of the Peter Principal is, employee's will get promoted to his or her level of incompetence.

 

[style_cafe]

It does sound amateurish but you would have to think they have found someone better????????

In that case"I wait with baited breath"!

Dear Tony,

Can you please tell us what you saw of Ivan Necesvki that impressed you last season, to justify your signing of him ???

Considering,
Ivan NECESVKI played a Grand Total of:
Zero mins, in Zero games
Over a possible 28 rounds.

Whereas an alternative option was,
Ante COVIC who played:
2,520 mins, in EVERY FCKN GAME (28) last season !!!!
On top of ALL of Perth Glory’s FFA Cup games right through to the Final vs Melb.Victory.

So seeing Necesvki played didn't play a single minute, was there some unbelievable, 'freaky-arse' saves he pulled off at the x3 half-time warm ups that caught your eye @ CCS when walking back out to the pitch after having your cup of tea ???

Mate, after the shit-house season you just offered up, your a bloke who is in desperate need of a quality, experienced & reliable GK that can bring about stability to a back third thats basically shell-shocked.

A 40 year old Covic ticks ALL THOSE BOXES.

Ante was desperate to move back to Syd to be united full-time with his wife and kids & is a player stating he's wanting to continue playing & would've (imo) been prepared to play for the $$$'s you're now going to pay a 36 year old Ivan Necesvki.

Stupid - Stupid signing.

TW probably was impressed that he had a mistake free season!

 

[Gratis]

Price driven no doubt.

I was hoping for Vukovic

 

[Wombat]

We should get "The Reject Shop" as a shirt sponsor.

 

[Gratis]

At this point I don't care. I'd rather spend more on CB's and a number 10 at this stage than a keeper. Ivan will be fine. Izzo will also probably be fine with a decent defence in front of him.
I bloody well hope.

 

[BrisRecky]

sigh...its not looking much better for the forthcoming season is it?

 

[soccer mad]

Another shit signing picking up the smurfs dead wood ,

 

[dibo]

State exactly which players who were off contract that you would keep rather than release and state which players have been signed that you wouldn't sign (noting that we're on a massively restricted budget compared to literally everyone else in the league).

After that, I'll take some of you seriously.

 

[yorkshireman]

State exactly which players who were off contract that you would keep rather than release and state which players have been signed that you wouldn't sign (noting that we're on a massively restricted budget compared to literally everyone else in the league).

After that, I'll take some of you seriously.

I have to agree, I would have like to have seen Bray stay at the expense of Izzo but decisions have to be made about fringe players when a more experienced player is signed. We are a loyal lot as supporters (in general) but we must acept that players have to go if new ones are to come in.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Id suggest that a club run by a property developer that underspends, has a coach with a low reputation and finished stone motherless last is going to struggle to be taken seriously by anyone.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I agrre on perils of underspending - was very vocal last year when it was so apparent. But not very impressed by this thread.

Prefer a stronger keeper than ivan. But i dont think people have seen enough of him if you thinks he's a "bad" signing. He is definitely more proven at this level than Bray / and can he organise well? Thats a key question - which i dont know but suspect no one else on here has a clue about either.

When we sign a state league playe as our new 10 and then another for our CB - then i'll be pissed and start predicting doom and gloom. But there's far too much being made of this imo. Which is threatening to become a pattern. A bad pattern,

Ivan is a good keeper and the aussie football fraternity certainly rates Izzo very highly. Like most of us on here - I dont at present - but im willing to allow its likely age/experience is the main issue and that was a horrible deep end for him last season.

Bottom line we're not in dire trouble here. At the worst we now have a keeper who may not set the world on fire but he's actually bloody solid. Which makes the ranting seem a bit OTT on here.

Re "amatuerish business". Then every club must be run amateurishly. Because that kind of thing happens every other week all over the world. Players will never like it when a deal falls through... Neither will a club when they know a player is stalling in hope of a better offer somewhere else... Deals fall through sll the time, at all stages...

Can we at least wait for some serious storm clouds to appear before we start predicting its going to be another shitstorm. Been hard enough dealing with the reality, without throwing shit awful imaginings into the mix.

 

[dibo]

Can we at least wait for some serious storm clouds to appear before we start predicting its going to be another shitstorm. Been hard enough dealing with the reality, without throwing shit awful imaginings into the mix.

If you don't hang shit on the club all the time you're an apologist.

 

[Manny_ccm]

After famously placing entertainment ahead of results last season, Central Coast Mariners owner Mike Charlesworth has put coach Tony Walmsley on notice that further failure will not be tolerated.
By
Dave Lewis

8 JUN 2016 - 12:25 PM UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO


Walmsley presided over a wooden spoon season which brought just three victories for the Mariners as they became the whipping boys of the A-League.

And while prepared to give the Englishman a second chance to guide a squad already bolstered by the signings of the former Sydney FC trio of Jacques Faty, Mikael Tavares and goalkeeper Ivan Necevski, Charlesworth is expecting a drastic change of fortunes.

If that doesn't happen Walmsley cannot expect the largesse he was afforded last season when the Mariners accumulated just 13 points in losing 20 of their 27 games to finish 12 points adrift at the bottom of the ladder.

“Stability is a good thing but I don’t think any coach believes they are not sackable," said Charlesworth.

"There’s always that possibility in any well paid position. The axe is always there in the background if you under-perform.

"But it should also be said that last season Tony was working on budgets way below anybody else, and whether you take that as an excuse or not, it was certainly a contributing factor in why we finished as poorly as we did.

"We also gave a lot of young players opportunities and game time that they wouldn’t have got elsewhere."

While Charlesworth’s entertain-at-all-costs braved of last season raised some eyebrows, he is now intent on both entertaining and winning.

"I don’t think we will ever be a team that tries to play anything but entertaining football," he said.

"However, we do have to get results ... that's for sure. In doing that we won't be playing dull football, I can assure you.

"What we will not be doing is going back to a stifling defensive style of football (which Charlesworth believes was perpetrated by former coach Phil Moss) because, in the long run, that would have a detrimental effect.

"So we would expect that those players we gave a chance to last year would be better for that experience, and that combined with some more experienced heads in the club should give us a stronger platform for next year.”

Charlesworth acknowledges that errors were made across the board last season and is acutely aware that it’s vital to the club’s long-term survival to make sure further calamities are avoided.

“We realise that mistakes were made and are determined to resolve those and have a really successful season next year,” he said.

“You learn a lot through difficult times and we have learned a lot in last 12 months. We’ll be hell of a lot stronger next year."

With no club sacking a coach last season, Charlesworth dearly hopes not to break the mould.

“We are trying to build a sustainable business and chopping and changing (coaches) is not always the right thing to do for every club, and right now in our evolution it’s probably not the right way to go," he said in confirmation that Walmsley will have that chance to redeem last season's dire outcome.

 

[dibo]

FFS.

If last season didn't get him sacked, then what test is he going to set for Walmsley this year?

"But it should also be said that last season Tony was working on budgets way below anybody else, and whether you take that as an excuse or not, it was certainly a contributing factor in why we finished as poorly as we did.

"We also gave a lot of young players opportunities and game time that they wouldn’t have got elsewhere."

Is this changing? I don't look at our squad (as so far assembled, and really we're a CB and AM away from done) and think of it as massively more experienced or expensive than last year's squad.

I'm all for credible threats, but I'm not sure this is a credible threat.

 

[Rowdy]

"I don’t think we will ever be a team that tries to play anything but entertaining football," he said.

Entertaiment, whether it be a Rock concert, a Hollywood movie or a Laycock St Theatre musical production ALL requires the designated funding proportionate to the level of Entertainment that your advertising.

Last years entertainment was proportional to fck'n 'finger puppets'.

& I'm also actually sick & tired of the word entertainment being used in the same sentence with football altogether .


Just try playing 'football' !!! PERIOD !!!
See how that works for your financial bottom line. Seemed to work for the previous owners of the club.

In fact you'd think Charlesworth would have had the smarts to remove entertainment from his own and Walmsley’s vocabulary after last season's shite display, BUT NO ! is now 'mantra'

 

[Wombat]

If you don't hang shit on the club all the time you're an apologist.

No!!!!
People that dont say a word in protest when things clearly stink or try and defend the indefensible...they are called apologist.
And that is what they are.

 

[Wombat]

After famously placing entertainment ahead of results last season, Central Coast Mariners owner Mike Charlesworth has put coach Tony Walmsley on notice that further failure will not be tolerated.
By
Dave Lewis

8 JUN 2016 - 12:25 PM UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO


Walmsley presided over a wooden spoon season which brought just three victories for the Mariners as they became the whipping boys of the A-League.

And while prepared to give the Englishman a second chance to guide a squad already bolstered by the signings of the former Sydney FC trio of Jacques Faty, Mikael Tavares and goalkeeper Ivan Necevski, Charlesworth is expecting a drastic change of fortunes.

If that doesn't happen Walmsley cannot expect the largesse he was afforded last season when the Mariners accumulated just 13 points in losing 20 of their 27 games to finish 12 points adrift at the bottom of the ladder.

“Stability is a good thing but I don’t think any coach believes they are not sackable," said Charlesworth.

"There’s always that possibility in any well paid position. The axe is always there in the background if you under-perform.

"But it should also be said that last season Tony was working on budgets way below anybody else, and whether you take that as an excuse or not, it was certainly a contributing factor in why we finished as poorly as we did.

"We also gave a lot of young players opportunities and game time that they wouldn’t have got elsewhere."

While Charlesworth’s entertain-at-all-costs braved of last season raised some eyebrows, he is now intent on both entertaining and winning.

"I don’t think we will ever be a team that tries to play anything but entertaining football," he said.

"However, we do have to get results ... that's for sure. In doing that we won't be playing dull football, I can assure you.

"What we will not be doing is going back to a stifling defensive style of football (which Charlesworth believes was perpetrated by former coach Phil Moss) because, in the long run, that would have a detrimental effect.

"So we would expect that those players we gave a chance to last year would be better for that experience, and that combined with some more experienced heads in the club should give us a stronger platform for next year.”

Charlesworth acknowledges that errors were made across the board last season and is acutely aware that it’s vital to the club’s long-term survival to make sure further calamities are avoided.

“We realise that mistakes were made and are determined to resolve those and have a really successful season next year,” he said.

“You learn a lot through difficult times and we have learned a lot in last 12 months. We’ll be hell of a lot stronger next year."

With no club sacking a coach last season, Charlesworth dearly hopes not to break the mould.

“We are trying to build a sustainable business and chopping and changing (coaches) is not always the right thing to do for every club, and right now in our evolution it’s probably not the right way to go," he said in confirmation that Walmsley will have that chance to redeem last season's dire outcome.

Its hard to take anything MC says seriously.

Last season........" I'm going to send my fighter out blind folded and with one hand tied behind his back".

....."its disappointing he didnt fight better and kopped a few floggings...still it might be my fault......so this year i'm going to remove the blindfold".

Hopefully we will go better and if he doesn't i'll get a new fighter than can fight without his hands. I'm giving him some new cheap Nevilles this year so if he still feels the need to defend himself with his hands its obviously his fault not mine.

 

[Wombat]

Another shit signing picking up the smurfs dead wood ,

he is deadwood but the other two are good players

 

[dibo]

No!!!!
People that dont say a word in protest when things clearly stink or try and defend the indefensible...they are called apologist.
And that is what they are.

You ignore views you disagree with and you decide for yourself that things are indefensible when others may disagree.