Mariners Squad - HAL 12 - 2016 - 2017

[true believer]

as long as timmy gets his 2 million a year .

 

[dibo]

What odds we make a play for someone like Flores? He's now played two seasons relatively uninterrupted and he's likely to be cheap (cheap enough that Adelaide City are interested).

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

What odds we make a play for someone like Flores? He's now played two seasons relatively uninterrupted and he's likely to be cheap (cheap enough that Adelaide City are interested).

He was adored by his club in Malaysia so he looks to have his confidence up. Wouldn't be to bad a pick up

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Little interview with #ThatBoyTrent and Paulo's thoughts on him from the club:
http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/buhagiar-a-dream-come-true/1bcgww4mcn1hu13vlag45yq9br

 

[Pirate Pete]

Shaun was on the radio (96.3) at half time last night. He said Monty was going for citizenship on 26th January.
He then said that would give them a few days to possibly bring in an overseas player. The way he said it made
it sound like we'd wait till Australia Day till we started looking. I presume we'll have someone lined up who
will be signing the moment steps up to get his certificate.
Interestingly Shaun seemed to think Fabio hadn't taken his tests yet. Maybe it was just me but I didn't think
Shaun knew what Fabio was up to at all.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Shaun was on the radio (96.3) at half time last night. He said Monty was going for citizenship on 26th January.
He then said that would give them a few days to possibly bring in an overseas player. The way he said it made
it sound like we'd wait till Australia Day till we started looking. I presume we'll have someone lined up who
will be signing the moment steps up to get his certificate.
Interestingly Shaun seemed to think Fabio hadn't taken his tests yet. Maybe it was just me but I didn't think
Shaun knew what Fabio was up to at all.

I feel Fabio will be out at the end of this season. If he isn't becoming a citizen I don't think Okon would be able to justify him hanging around eating up most likely a fair portion of the cap and taking a visa spot. Flores would be a good pick up on a performance based contract, with an option for another season if he performs.

 

[Atomic]

What odds we make a play for someone like Flores? He's now played two seasons relatively uninterrupted and he's likely to be cheap (cheap enough that Adelaide City are interested).

I'd be happy with that. We need someone that can feed Roy, and I still remember the peach of a pass he put through to Duke for the goal in the opening game at Bluetongue way back when.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

What odds we make a play for someone like Flores? He's now played two seasons relatively uninterrupted and he's likely to be cheap (cheap enough that Adelaide City are interested).

We got unlucky with Flores and then it would seem could not afford to keep him around while he recuperated long term and then would need to look to find form again. The right decision on balance, but the worst thing was that we never replaced him. We thought it would be Caceres but we got that badly wrong.

For a club with an incredible tradition of 10's from Tommy P to Tommy R, Musty, Perez it's been a real gap and major on field issue I think these past 3 years.

I'd prefer we look elsewhere. But if we had him fit - I'd be looking at him in central midfield ahead of Powell rose or berry.

 

[dibo]

Wanderers just signed Terry Antonis. I'd like to know whether we were even in that discussion - he'd be very useful for us right now and doesn't take up a foreign spot.

 

[Big Al]

Wanderers just signed Terry Antonis. I'd like to know whether we were even in that discussion - he'd be very useful for us right now and doesn't take up a foreign spot.

Agree and would like us do be looking at those loan style deals. We have cap space where we can cover the wage allocation but only be paying half the actual cost or less.

A few players coming home quickly now. Is that a sign the league is good or they very good A League players but poor European players?

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

We got unlucky with Flores and then it would seem could not afford to keep him around while he recuperated long term and then would need to look to find form again. But the worst thing was we never replaced him. We thought it would be Caceres but we got that badly wrong,

For a club with an incredible tradition of 10's from tommy p to Tommy R, musty, Perez it's been a real gap and major on field issue I think these past 3 years.

I'd prefer we look elsewhere. But if we had him fit - I'd be looking at him in central midfield ahead of Powell rose or berry.

I doubt there would be much on offer

Agree and would like us do be looking at those loan style deals. We have cap space where we can cover the wage allocation but only be paying half the actual cost or less.

A few players coming home quickly now. Is that a sign the league is good or they very good A League players but poor European players?

I think it's a sign that players have more confidence that they will be able to make it back if they leave Europe and really the only ones coming back fairly quickly are the ones who went to big clubs far too early.

 

[Big Al]

Little shot at Rose and we'd like to do some business but unloading might be hard

Central Coast Mariners likely to endure more A-League pain before young guns finally find their feet

David Davutovic, Herald Sun
December 30, 2016 10:14am

CENTRAL Coast Mariners are still paying for the shambolic Tony Walmsley regime - and it could hurt the club for years.

When Paul Okon was appointed on the eve of the A-League season, the squad was filled with players that would struggle to get a minimum wage contract at other clubs.

The 4-1 scoreline at Melbourne Victory looked worse than it was, as there were plenty of positives to take from it for the youthful Mariners as Okon desperately tries to inject minutes into the kids.

The silver lining is that almost the entire squad (17 players) come out of contract at the end of the season, though there could be more pain between now and then.

Liam Rose is just 19 but is a key component of the Mariners midfield.
“The last couple of weeks our average age has been 21, so that’s a real positive for the club,’’ Okon said.

“Maybe people don’t consider that and think it’s irrelevant, ‘why are you losing football games?’ The future for the club is bright and hopefully it eventually results in more games won and more joy for the fans.’’

Midfielder Liam Rose and striker Trent Buhagiar exemplify the Mariners’ pitiful recent past and their potentially exciting future.

Rose carelessly lost the ball in midfield that led to a Victory goal as the coaching staff tries to coach the poor habits out of his game.

“I don’t know how you can work on giving the ball away under no pressure at training,’’ Okon said.

“He (Rose) was better than last week, so it’s far from a criticism of a 19-year-old boy.

“Trent’s an exciting young player, plenty of speed and took his finish magnificently. He’s a player the club is expecting big things in the future.”

Trent Buhagiar scored a great goal against Melbourne Victory.
The Mariners have two wins and nine points, and they will exceed last season’s tally of three wins and 13 points soon.

Throw in Mickael Tavares and Storm Roux at right-back and it’s a far better looking team, while the likes of Connor Pain and Scott Galloway will only improve.


The Mariners hope to do some January wheeling dealing, but they’re hamstrung as they need to offload players, but the back-end are NPL quality.

“It will be good (to sign players in January), we need one or two more bodies, but I’m not sure,’’ Okon said.

It’s anyone’s guess which Mariners turn up against Melbourne City on Saturday.

Originally published as More pain to come for shambolic Mariners

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I doubt there would be much on offer

I think it's a sign that players have more confidence that they will be able to make it back if they leave Europe and really the only ones coming back fairly quickly are the ones who went to big clubs far too early.

I think it's also a sign that playing regularly in the A league is now deemed better for you as a player than being permanently on the bench in Europe as Pimm so famously once endorsed - and being a legitimate pathway to the national team now I'm sure helps too.

Also think it's true. Not at all convinced it helped players like Oar and Zullo develop. Training under the best is great, but nothing still beats playing for development - just needs to be a decent enough level - which I think we now clearly are to a much higher level of ability than previously.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Little shot at Rose and we'd like to do some business but unloading might be hard

Central Coast Mariners likely to endure more A-League pain before young guns finally find their feet

David Davutovic, Herald Sun
December 30, 2016 10:14am

CENTRAL Coast Mariners are still paying for the shambolic Tony Walmsley regime - and it could hurt the club for years.

When Paul Okon was appointed on the eve of the A-League season, the squad was filled with players that would struggle to get a minimum wage contract at other clubs.

The 4-1 scoreline at Melbourne Victory looked worse than it was, as there were plenty of positives to take from it for the youthful Mariners as Okon desperately tries to inject minutes into the kids.

The silver lining is that almost the entire squad (17 players) come out of contract at the end of the season, though there could be more pain between now and then.

Liam Rose is just 19 but is a key component of the Mariners midfield.
“The last couple of weeks our average age has been 21, so that’s a real positive for the club,’’ Okon said.

“Maybe people don’t consider that and think it’s irrelevant, ‘why are you losing football games?’ The future for the club is bright and hopefully it eventually results in more games won and more joy for the fans.’’

Midfielder Liam Rose and striker Trent Buhagiar exemplify the Mariners’ pitiful recent past and their potentially exciting future.

Rose carelessly lost the ball in midfield that led to a Victory goal as the coaching staff tries to coach the poor habits out of his game.

“I don’t know how you can work on giving the ball away under no pressure at training,’’ Okon said.

“He (Rose) was better than last week, so it’s far from a criticism of a 19-year-old boy.

“Trent’s an exciting young player, plenty of speed and took his finish magnificently. He’s a player the club is expecting big things in the future.”

Trent Buhagiar scored a great goal against Melbourne Victory.
The Mariners have two wins and nine points, and they will exceed last season’s tally of three wins and 13 points soon.

Throw in Mickael Tavares and Storm Roux at right-back and it’s a far better looking team, while the likes of Connor Pain and Scott Galloway will only improve.


The Mariners hope to do some January wheeling dealing, but they’re hamstrung as they need to offload players, but the back-end are NPL quality.

“It will be good (to sign players in January), we need one or two more bodies, but I’m not sure,’’ Okon said.

It’s anyone’s guess which Mariners turn up against Melbourne City on Saturday.

Originally published as More pain to come for shambolic Mariners

Lol, that original title. Okon probably got on the phone and ripped Davutovic a new one or someone warned him he better change it before he saw Okon again.

 

[Tevor]

My bet is we don't make any acquisitions this Jan. Just don't think MC is going to splash any cash especially after reading the article about how we are delaying re-signing Roy depending on the new media deal. If we don't have cash for this now how is there any hope of a new player in Jan? I'm preparing myself for the same squad for the rest of the season.

 

[Gratis]

Agreed. Thinking MC will see this season as a write off anyway so why spend money to come 8th rather than 9th

 

[shipwreck]

Sim Is back in Australia, left his South African club.

 

[sydmariner]

Sim Is back in Australia, left his South African club.

As much as I like him, realisticly I can't see us signing him.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Sim Is back in Australia, left his South African club.

As much as I like him, realisticly I can't see us signing him.

 

[Coach]

A have heard a bit of Twitter amougst agents suggesting that we will sign something akin to a poor man's marquee in the new year. Certainly not a Garcia. I couldn't rangle a name or even a position. On the negative side there was also talk that we may lose one or two that we want to keep. I am very fearful of the later.