Our two victories this season came against a team favoured to be title winners, and the team that currently holds the title.
We can compete - but we're thin on the ground in player stocks. Simples.
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Mariners Squad - HAL 12 - 2016 - 2017
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We can compete - but we're thin on the ground in player stocks. Simples.
Wombat
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Rostyn hasn't been great thus far.
JoyfulPenguin
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Monty and Faty most likely back for the weekend
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Forum Phoenix
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He looks disconnected. They all do. Team of individuals. I think the dressing room is likely average to poor.
FFC Mariner
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A dressing room with Reddy in it is dysfunctional? Say it's not so.
I thought Rostyn looked unfit by about 60 minutes.
dibo
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Replying to a post from the welly game thread.
Galloway arrived after two games, so split the difference between you.
We know our signings are cheap. That's not news, and it isn't changing any time soon. The best we can do in the circumstances is sign kids and look for growth potential. The players will improve over time, even if they struggle early - look at both McGing and Ascroft who are miles better than they were last year and are only 21 and 22.
In terms of players that arrived this year, in order of signing:
Walmlsey signings:
Faty - up and down. Ups are decent, downs are shocking, injury worries aren't going to go away at 32
Tavares - a couple of dud halves among some great performances, but again with the injuries it's a worry at 34
Berry - good prospect, only 19, lots of potential. We're yet to find his best spot.
Adelson - another good prospect, only 20, injury worries though.
Necevski - odd signing. Who picks up a 36 year old #2 keeper?
Pain - good swap for Austin, more rounded player and has been handy. Younger too - only 23.
Appiah-Kubi - only 24, but a dead-set head scratcher. I'm guessing he was cheap, but aside from speed I'm yet to see much from him at either Wanderers or Wellington so I'm really not sure what the idea was here.
Powell - he was golden boot at Phoenix last year, but that was from a return of only 8 goals, of which 4 came in one game against an *awful* Wanderers team. So the return of 4 goals from the remaining 13 starts and 10 bench appearances doesn't fill me with joy, and I'm not seeing anything that convinces me that he's more lethal here. He's 25, so unless he's going to suddenly snap into some lethal form, this might be him at his prime.
Okon signings:
Galloway - another kid at only 21, looks more settled than Neill at left back.
I don't really get the O'Donovan love. He runs around a lot, but I don't get the feeling that defenders are afraid of him like they're afraid of a Berisha, Bobo, Santalab, Krishna, Fornaroli, Guardiola... you get my drift.
He's busy, but in any given game I give him a higher chance of getting a yellow (or worse) for an ill-conceived challenge than of scoring a goal from open play. He's been very lucky to not be booked or worse on *several* occasions.
So I think there's some good and bad, but I'll generally cut the club slack for signing kids because at least there's growth potential there. It's the Matt Sims and the Francesco Stellas that drive me bonkers, and we've not had one of them signed this season.
Barring an unexpected flurry of positive activity in the January window, we're going to have to get to April with the squad we've got.
Galloway arrived after two games, so split the difference between you.
We know our signings are cheap. That's not news, and it isn't changing any time soon. The best we can do in the circumstances is sign kids and look for growth potential. The players will improve over time, even if they struggle early - look at both McGing and Ascroft who are miles better than they were last year and are only 21 and 22.
In terms of players that arrived this year, in order of signing:
Walmlsey signings:
Faty - up and down. Ups are decent, downs are shocking, injury worries aren't going to go away at 32
Tavares - a couple of dud halves among some great performances, but again with the injuries it's a worry at 34
Berry - good prospect, only 19, lots of potential. We're yet to find his best spot.
Adelson - another good prospect, only 20, injury worries though.
Necevski - odd signing. Who picks up a 36 year old #2 keeper?
Pain - good swap for Austin, more rounded player and has been handy. Younger too - only 23.
Appiah-Kubi - only 24, but a dead-set head scratcher. I'm guessing he was cheap, but aside from speed I'm yet to see much from him at either Wanderers or Wellington so I'm really not sure what the idea was here.
Powell - he was golden boot at Phoenix last year, but that was from a return of only 8 goals, of which 4 came in one game against an *awful* Wanderers team. So the return of 4 goals from the remaining 13 starts and 10 bench appearances doesn't fill me with joy, and I'm not seeing anything that convinces me that he's more lethal here. He's 25, so unless he's going to suddenly snap into some lethal form, this might be him at his prime.
Okon signings:
Galloway - another kid at only 21, looks more settled than Neill at left back.
I don't really get the O'Donovan love. He runs around a lot, but I don't get the feeling that defenders are afraid of him like they're afraid of a Berisha, Bobo, Santalab, Krishna, Fornaroli, Guardiola... you get my drift.
He's busy, but in any given game I give him a higher chance of getting a yellow (or worse) for an ill-conceived challenge than of scoring a goal from open play. He's been very lucky to not be booked or worse on *several* occasions.
So I think there's some good and bad, but I'll generally cut the club slack for signing kids because at least there's growth potential there. It's the Matt Sims and the Francesco Stellas that drive me bonkers, and we've not had one of them signed this season.
Barring an unexpected flurry of positive activity in the January window, we're going to have to get to April with the squad we've got.
sydmariner
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Mat Sim was awesome plus he just won the league in south africa & he also holds the record for the most goals in a game by a mariners player.
Ancient Mariner
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He is a reasonably good finisher.
He scores penalties (what was our conversion percentage before he came?)
He hassles the defence effectively.
He is fast.
He won the goal of the year last year.
What do want Thieri Henri?
Good strikers are a scarce commodity and he is worth keeping.
As for the players you listed:
Santalab can score against teams who are knackered when he comes on at the 80th minute.
Bobo is probably the most overrated, over paid player in the A-League.
Berisha is past his use by date.
Fornaroli has not matched his last seasons form.
JoyfulPenguin
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Compared to all the strikers Heart ever had (Williams, Tadic, Terra, Misfud, Aloisi, Maycon, Macallister, Mebrahtu) Roy is a million times more lethal and intimidating. While that list isn't great it shows how difficult getting the striking position right is in the A-League with a small budget. Roy is one player in our team that our recruiting definitely got right.
FFC Mariner
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Its hardly Roys fault that we dont have the quality to set him up with more chances.
He rarely gets more than 1 or 2 a game. At this level we would (probably) need to double that for him to get to that magical "goal every other game"
He rarely gets more than 1 or 2 a game. At this level we would (probably) need to double that for him to get to that magical "goal every other game"
midfielder
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Don't know if anyone has heard this ... Santa is asking us to choose a player... Santa has said we can have the player from January..
Sadly Santa has said there are limits but by A-League standards we can have a decent player.
Who would we like to bring in or maybe two players .. so we can give Santa a list ..
Sadly Santa has said there are limits but by A-League standards we can have a decent player.
Who would we like to bring in or maybe two players .. so we can give Santa a list ..
priorpeter
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Cup. Hero.
Forum Phoenix
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priorpeter
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Did someone say "The Russians"?
... well then, it must be around the 15th of the month.
... well then, it must be around the 15th of the month.
VicMariner
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Just watched the Rogic video in another thread.
I'd have him back for a present.
I'd have him back for a present.
Wombat
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Palm Beach!
Having said that, he could finish a chance, something most in our squad struggle with.
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