true believer
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Yeah but trents not gazing at his reflection in a pool of water
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Mariners Squad - HAL 12 - 2016 - 2017
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pjennings
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The Central Coast Mariners can today confirm that midfielder, Mickaël Tavares has sustained an ankle injury and has been granted permission to return to Europe to complete his rehabilitation.
The Mariners will allow Tavares to spend 10 days in Europe with a specialist that he has worked with previously in a bid to return to the Central Coast ready to play.
The 34-year-old midfielder was kept sidelined on Saturday against the Western Sydney Wanderers due to his ankle injury.
http://www.ccmariners.com.au/articl...ecialist-in-europe/18n1hc081rfpq16h8pop762nck
The Mariners will allow Tavares to spend 10 days in Europe with a specialist that he has worked with previously in a bid to return to the Central Coast ready to play.
The 34-year-old midfielder was kept sidelined on Saturday against the Western Sydney Wanderers due to his ankle injury.
http://www.ccmariners.com.au/articl...ecialist-in-europe/18n1hc081rfpq16h8pop762nck
Forum Phoenix
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One day GA is saying we have the best sports science in the world and 'Europe couldn't fix Bernie' ...the next tav is flying to Europe to get his rehab.
As long as it works!
Downside is it doesn't sound like an injury replacement will be on the cards.
As long as it works!
Downside is it doesn't sound like an injury replacement will be on the cards.
I'd say more upside is they expect him back and in the not to distant future
Sometimes it's better to work with someone you've worked with before, especially medical. He will know Taveras ankle and Taveras also probably trusts him.
Good excuse for him to see the missus as well.
true believer
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2 weeks out is a pretty good out come.
With his foot work he could be in "mid summer nights dream " in september
http://allevents.in/gosford/melbourne-city-ballet-presents-a-midsummer-nights-dream/1230272767034322
With his foot work he could be in "mid summer nights dream " in september
http://allevents.in/gosford/melbourne-city-ballet-presents-a-midsummer-nights-dream/1230272767034322
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style_cafe
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Dibo I think you could add Fab to the list of probably nots for next year.
He tends to be injury prone, doesn`t make the starting side now Budgie has hit his straps & hasn`t set the world on fire when he does get a run.
Frankly, I think Okon could use the $$$ for a younger, more committed, team player.
He tends to be injury prone, doesn`t make the starting side now Budgie has hit his straps & hasn`t set the world on fire when he does get a run.
Frankly, I think Okon could use the $$$ for a younger, more committed, team player.
Forum Phoenix
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I still rate Fab, just not sure he'd ever be inclined to accepting to play second fiddle to anyone, especially not an 18 year old wunderkind. Two quality players for each spot is the ideal, so i'm sure Okon will want to keep him. I have a suspicion Fab will start this week and if so much may depend on how well he takes his opportunity.
FFC Mariner
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Dibo I think you could add Fab to the list of probably nots for next year.
He tends to be injury prone, doesn`t make the starting side now Budgie has hit his straps & hasn`t set the world on fire when he does get a run.
Frankly, I think Okon could use the $$$ for a younger, more committed, team player.
Agree 100%. His current lack of willingness might imply that he knows too
Coastalraider
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Someone mentioned after the last match that Fabs was sent to do 100m sprints after the game. The fact that Paulo has ordered this, in front of a crowd speaks volumes about his position within the squad. Whilst I love what Fabs has bought to the team, if he either can't or won't change his play to suit where Paulo is taking the team, we should spend the money and foreign allocation on someone who can.
style_cafe
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I agree that Fab, on his day, is a quality player.
It`s just that "his day" is fast becoming a thing of the past.
If he does get a start & does well that would be great for the team as whole.
He is an older ,experienced player & we need a few of those to guide the younger ones.
Whether Okon agrees might be a different thing though.
owenmcleod12
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Unless players like McDonald, fletcher and Appiah are going to be given their chances they need to be moved on in january, beacuse we need to bring in reinforcements in the midfield and the back third so we an provide not just depth but more experiance to a still very young squad.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
FFC Mariner
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Agree but who would take them?
Only if Taveras is seriously hurt.
A CB and #10 are most important
Don't get to excited as none of those players will have anywhere to go, so will do out the year and is McDonald signed for another year (completely dumb that one)
Yeah my bad, last year and this year are his two year contract
JoyfulPenguin
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Interesting development in the NYL with Aidan Munford starting ahead of Adam Pearce today.
Football nut
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Adam Pearce is resting a slight injury.
Two key experienced players including the captain? I'd say it'd be fairly common.
dibo
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We've been using possession as an effective defensive tool far more so than last year (in that we hold the ball well, denying the opposition time to create attacking chances).
We've not really used the possession game itself as an attacking weapon. The reason for this is pretty simple - when we consolidate possession, other teams are dropping into deep blocks and soaking pressure. Given we're lacking much in the way of central attacking threat, they're able to simply mark us up and we're pretty toothless.
Our weakness has been that to break up this block we're trying to push overloads - players like Roux, Ascroft and Rose are coming from deep to try to either get to an attacking position themselves or draw a defender to free up an attacker in an advanced position. If we lose the ball in this circumstance, we're getting hit on the counter with broken lines, and we're just awful at defending on the counter (and have been for three years or so now, basically since we lost the combination of speed and smarts in the Zwaanswijk/Sainsbury pairing).
We're conscious of the weakness, so we don't press on too hard too often, but that also means that whilst we're attacking cautiously and relatively toothlessly, we're not scoring *and* the other side isn't being stretched. We're doing a lot of running around making space to have the ball effectively go nowhere. When we lose it, we're working hard, pressing high and winning it back fairly quickly (again because we can't afford to get hit on the counter), and we begin again.
This all takes a lot of energy. That means for 60m - 75m we're keeping the ball well and looking effective, but when the legs run out we're there for the taking.
If you're in front (like Wanderers or Phoenix in the last two weeks), you know there will be chances late so you can sit deep knowing that unless we pull something out of the hat you'll be able to hang on and bide your time.
If we could play it for 90 minutes, teams would have to change their approach. Another option is that without the ball we take a different approach. If we were to maintain the attacking pattern we have now but shift gear in defence to drop off and soak as Wanderers and Phoenix have done to us in the last two weeks, we're at least challenging sides to beat us rather than getting torn open.
Add Monty and Tav to the mix and we lose some of the dynamism in defence (so the hard press is harder to do) but we gain some structure and stability in defence and in Tav we gain an awful lot in passing.
I still don't really know what Powell's job is - he's not a true 10 and we don't have one in the side, but when we have two of Rose, Monty or Berry on the field in front of Tavares we at least have a quarterback sitting behind two central midfielders (not CAMs or CDMs, just CMs) which helps us to have some additional passing options and stops us having a big f**king hole in the middle. When we fill that area up, it draws their defence in to be more compact and creates room for the wingers. Then we have the option of the big diagonal and away we go. And if we lose it, we can clog the middle up and frustrate counters.
I don't think we have a perfect shape with the squad we've got, and accordingly I don't think we have a perfect tactical approach, but we can at least compromise on a few things to be a little more effective because clearly in the last couple of weeks we've dropped off from where we'd got to.
We've not really used the possession game itself as an attacking weapon. The reason for this is pretty simple - when we consolidate possession, other teams are dropping into deep blocks and soaking pressure. Given we're lacking much in the way of central attacking threat, they're able to simply mark us up and we're pretty toothless.
Our weakness has been that to break up this block we're trying to push overloads - players like Roux, Ascroft and Rose are coming from deep to try to either get to an attacking position themselves or draw a defender to free up an attacker in an advanced position. If we lose the ball in this circumstance, we're getting hit on the counter with broken lines, and we're just awful at defending on the counter (and have been for three years or so now, basically since we lost the combination of speed and smarts in the Zwaanswijk/Sainsbury pairing).
We're conscious of the weakness, so we don't press on too hard too often, but that also means that whilst we're attacking cautiously and relatively toothlessly, we're not scoring *and* the other side isn't being stretched. We're doing a lot of running around making space to have the ball effectively go nowhere. When we lose it, we're working hard, pressing high and winning it back fairly quickly (again because we can't afford to get hit on the counter), and we begin again.
This all takes a lot of energy. That means for 60m - 75m we're keeping the ball well and looking effective, but when the legs run out we're there for the taking.
If you're in front (like Wanderers or Phoenix in the last two weeks), you know there will be chances late so you can sit deep knowing that unless we pull something out of the hat you'll be able to hang on and bide your time.
If we could play it for 90 minutes, teams would have to change their approach. Another option is that without the ball we take a different approach. If we were to maintain the attacking pattern we have now but shift gear in defence to drop off and soak as Wanderers and Phoenix have done to us in the last two weeks, we're at least challenging sides to beat us rather than getting torn open.
Add Monty and Tav to the mix and we lose some of the dynamism in defence (so the hard press is harder to do) but we gain some structure and stability in defence and in Tav we gain an awful lot in passing.
I still don't really know what Powell's job is - he's not a true 10 and we don't have one in the side, but when we have two of Rose, Monty or Berry on the field in front of Tavares we at least have a quarterback sitting behind two central midfielders (not CAMs or CDMs, just CMs) which helps us to have some additional passing options and stops us having a big f**king hole in the middle. When we fill that area up, it draws their defence in to be more compact and creates room for the wingers. Then we have the option of the big diagonal and away we go. And if we lose it, we can clog the middle up and frustrate counters.
I don't think we have a perfect shape with the squad we've got, and accordingly I don't think we have a perfect tactical approach, but we can at least compromise on a few things to be a little more effective because clearly in the last couple of weeks we've dropped off from where we'd got to.
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