Mariners Squad - HAL 11 - 2015/2016

[shipwreck]

I'm so genuinely confused about how this league works, is the salary cap not covered by the FFA?

 

[VicMariner]

I'm so genuinely confused about how this league works, is the salary cap not covered by the FFA?

Yes and MC pays the salary floor and the difference goes into keeping the club afloat. As I understand it.

 

[bikinigirl]

. but if i'm honest i struggle to see how we are even meeting the floor

. wasn't shaun or tony recently quoted as saying we are spending $1m less than last year? when we appear to have actually increased the number of back-office staff that means some serious cuts to the playing roster

. granted we are probably playing some big sums to reddy and bosnar out of the cap (and i heard we may actually still be paying seip as well) ... but the whole cap thing is just weird

... and far from transparent - when the last tv deal was announced it was stated that the players would be paid directly so the owners couldn't get their hands on the cap money preventing the clubs from spending it on things other than player wages - which is why i have always questioned why we don't spend every cent of the cap on the players (we are already at a significant disadvantage cap-wise with no marquees)

 

[shipwreck]

f**k if we still have Seip on the payroll can we get him back please? I actually rated him

 

[Rowdy]

Yes and MC pays the salary floor and the difference goes into keeping the club afloat. As I understand it.

. but if i'm honest i struggle to see how we are even meeting the floor

I've been told that were not at the current required 'floor'/(minimum) of 85% of the cap.

We've only spent 83%, which included Bosnar & Reddy. Now that they're both (soon) to be off the payroll, that means we'd have to spend their wages to get back to that 83%, & I'd figure that amount would be at least $350k for both. (Boz was rumoured to be on a staggering $200k + I reckon Reddy to be at around $150k minimum).

Next season CCM are required to spend a minimum of 90% of the cap.

There should be dollars to spend, just to get back to the 83% let alone the 85%. Why Charlesworth's not spending ??? Only he, Storrie & TW know.

.... quoted as saying we are spending $1m less than last year? when we appear to have actually increased the number of back-office staff that means some serious cuts to the playing roster

I've heard Storrie came in and removed staff, to reduce costs. Including right down to changing the quality of paper used in the printers, lights/equipment left on overnight & weekends. The 1%er's etc. that all add.

Although also heard Storrie stays at the Crowne Plaza at Terrigal for the month he's out here at $350 a night. Must be their cheapest room.

 

[gull]

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... and far from transparent - when the last tv deal was announced it was stated that the players would be paid directly so the owners couldn't get their hands on the cap money preventing the clubs from spending it on things other than player wages - which is why i have always questioned why we don't spend every cent of the cap on the players (we are already at a significant disadvantage cap-wise with no marquees)

Yes this is what I don't get either. If that is case then why aren't we spending the full cap?

Or do we deliberately want to be at a disadvantage perhaps?

 

[Gratis]

Bosnar and Reddy will no doubt get paid out all or the bulk of their contracts meaning we won't have it to catch up. That said I too was under the impression we were below the floor even with them.

 

[Luca Brasi]

Next season CCM are required to spend a minimum of 90% of the cap.

I was under the impression the increased salary cap floor applied for this season?

2015/16 Salary Cap breakdown:

Salary Cap $2.55 million

Salary Cap floor (85% to 90%) $2.29 million $127,500


Read more at http://www.footballaustralia.com.au...isnaumwlkmhj1vyywqy5lcn3g#cKAVlzG7Xv7ioJio.99

 

[rbakersmith]

Liam's (finally) gone:

The Central Coast Mariners can today confirm to its members, fans and the media that the contract of Liam Reddy has been terminated by mutual consent.
The 34-year-old joined the Mariners in the lead up to the Hyundai A-League 2013/14 season under former Head Coach Graham Arnold.

The Central Coast Mariners will make no further comment on this matter.

http://www.ccmariners.com.au/articl...s--reddy-part-ways/1jpfqyvsy5jp916o87on4kfqrp

 

[Gratis]

Took a while. I wonder how much we'll ever find out

 

[bilo]

Whats the Bet he will be the Wanderers keeper before the end of January

 

[FFC Mariner]

Whats the Bet he will be the Wanderers keeper before the end of January

Not if they want to win the league he won't.

Back at Sydney United is a better bet

 

[rbakersmith]

Back at Sydney United is a better bet

And you would have lost that bet - he's just signed with WSW until the end of the season.

 

[Atomic]

And you would have lost that bet - he's just signed with WSW until the end of the season.

A leopard doesn't change it's spots. He's in for a world of pain when he pisses the Wanderers supporters off.

 

[FFC Mariner]

And you would have lost that bet - he's just signed with WSW until the end of the season.

Then back to NSWPL

 

[Big Al]

WSW value defence highly. Good luck to him

 

[Spacks]

http://www.transfermarkt.com/spiele...d_id=12&wettbewerb_id=alle&seit=alle&yt0=Show

Says here that Adrian Leijer is out of contract as of 10th of December.

 

[bikinigirl]

And you would have lost that bet - he's just signed with WSW until the end of the season.

. am i correct in assuming that this move will have minimised the pay-out we need to make - i.e. settlement only came because a deal with WSW had been agreed?

. does this mean we will have more to spend to reach the cap floor?

 

[Rowdy]

You'd hope so.

Can't see how a player can take up X $'s at one HAL Club and then Y $'s at another.

If CCM has had to pay him out any of his contracted wages then WSW should have to have X+Y attributed to Reddy in regards to their (WSW) cap.

 

[Gratis]

this post may be more appropriate here methinks:

Ideally we'll recruit one or two (three please!) in January and this will be mostly sorted.
We've had a bad run recently but the first 6 or 7 games this season we were very good and should have won several games. Refereeing actually lost s 2 of them. With Fab back we can get back to that form and all the younger guys will get better and better. We may not make the finals this year (then again we may) but I don't think we'll get the spoon. Then it's from strength the strength in coming years.

I think the discussion has nailed a couple of tactical points:
* Currently Roy is too easily marked having no passing options, as is Austin - having Fab back will mean defenders will have to focus on Fab, Austin and Cac as well as Roy so should open some space/opportunities

* The back 4 of Roux, Posc, McGing, Rose is solid enough and improving and should be settled on for at least 4 or 5 games without change. When settled Roux/Rose should be given licence to get forward more and be as effective as we know they can be

* Ascroft and Rose Jr need to battle it out and sub for each other as second DM with Monty. They're both showing their potential

* Rose/Austin need to be able to go around each other to draw defenders, make them think twice and provide a variety of opportunities the way Roux/Fab do

* Fitz and Sim off the bench are effective

* Cac needs to create more. Hoping his combinations will Fabv will bear some fruit

It's a big part a matter of having all players available and getting to know each other/making good decisions individually and as a collective. We're not that far off overall, but under enough to be losing most games currently.