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BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
As relates to Izzo, I've said it before and I will keep saying it, some of the blame has to go back onto Nash don't it, izz does some bonz reflex saves but it's the rest of his game that's got a case of the shits
 

pjennings

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Apparently we didn't put our name in the hat to try and recruit Rhys Williams.
http://www.sportingnews.com/list/46...-socceroos-utility-rhys-williams/slide/446366
Bonevacia also wants out of the Phoenix as well. He'd be an amazing signing.

Bonevacia has been great for Wellington and I'd take him in a minute. As to the veracity of the reports I am pretty sure that 'the secret agent' or at least a lot of the information is Tony Rallis's work. As such I read it with a rather large grain of salt.
 

Wombat

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Izzo has played much better than Pasfield did for us and he is still a kid who won't reach his potential for years yet. What i like about Izzo (much like Matty) is that he hasn't let the situation get to him and seems very driven to improve his game week to week. It's not ideal he has been blooded in our worst ever season where he has been under constant pressure. Agree that it was a season too early for him but he will be a better keeper for that. I don't really understand the hate for the kid....someone has to be a scapegoat i guess.

Redders, pasfield, izzo, trott have all been poor.

The annoyance with Izzo is he doesnt get dropped when he has a shocker (most weeks) so that frustration has started to turn into abuse.
The hard thing is both the new keepers looked superior in their cameos.
So either TW is an idiot or we are missing the full picture.
 

pjennings

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Redders, pasfield, izzo, trott have all been poor.

The annoyance with Izzo is he doesnt get dropped when he has a shocker (most weeks) so that frustration has started to turn into abuse.
The hard thing is both the new keepers looked superior in their cameos.
So either TW is an idiot or we are missing the full picture.

I agree that Bray looked a far more complete keeper than Izzo and on the little I've seen I would be choosing him. Given that we have, for all intents and purposes secured our first spoon I can see no reason not to use Bray for the next few weeks (barring his current injury) to give him an opportunity to see if he has what it takes.

Tom HB on the other hand I'm not so convinced with yet. He has the making of being a very good keeper. However, in the Geelong 3-3 game, in spite of not conceding from a corner I had my heart in my mouth every time Victory had a corner (all 15 of them). His confidence in this aspect of his game needs to improve. He may well show the requisite ability at the lower level and just needs confidence to be more confident when he steps up.
 

Wombat

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With respect Pat.
Our defending is so poor at any set piece....that my heart is always in my mouth.
The 18yo is very raw but looks the equal of Izzo.
Bray looks superior.
 

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
we all remember Tinkers first game...who among us didnt think "wow he shits all over Izzo" (at least for a moment or two)....of course that could be "New Face " syndrome at work
 

dibo

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...or he's played in 9 games there and only just had a good game and scored his first goal, so maybe our coaching staff were right?

It's not like his career stats indicate he's been a superstar anywhere. He's past the point where he can afford to be a promising youngster, he needs to start producing.

Ditto for Caceres.
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
One good game says nothing. I remember he scored for us once as well.
Still not up to starting standard. Reasonable squadie.

Agree completely. Every so often he would score an absolute screamer (Brisbane away) and we would think he has arrived.

Then nothing for 6 months.

Squaddie at best.
 

gull

Well-Known Member
...or he's played in 9 games there and only just had a good game and scored his first goal, so maybe our coaching staff were right?

It's not like his career stats indicate he's been a superstar anywhere. He's past the point where he can afford to be a promising youngster, he needs to start producing.

Ditto for Caceres.

I would argue that he performed last night. He made some great passes, positioning was good, and he scored a nice goal.

Admittedly the Adelaide coach got his selections wrong, and he wasn't up against a quality left back, but it was by far the best he's played in a long time.

We'll see if it's a one-off next week.
 

Rowdy

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My bad, just scrolled down to see that only 9 teams listed and assumed the usual media treatment.
 

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