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Free Patricio Perez

Should FFAs MRP have banned Perez?

  • Yes, we need to stop simulation and I think he dived

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  • Yes, we need to stop simulation though I do not know if he dived

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  • No, there is no evidence of him having dived

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  • No, I just don't want to miss him for 2 weeks

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  • I really don't know

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  • Whatever happens the MRP needs reforming

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Restrepo

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Another article

THE Central Coast Mariners could become the A-League's first club to seek a court injunction in a bid allow accused diver Patricio Perez to play in tomorrow night's match against Melbourne Victory.

The club has made a formal submission to Football Federation Australia to reverse its decision to ban Perez for two matches for simulation but with the governing body likely to reject the claim, the Mariners are preparing to pull out all stops to have the ban on their star recruit lifted.

Central to their argument will be advice from biomechanics experts who have analysed video of the incident and determined that contact from Sydney FC goalkeeper Liam Reddy was substantial enough to alter Perez's balance as he moved towards goal.

The club has also obtained a written affidavit from Perez, with the Argentine declaring his belief that he was brought down by Reddy, who was subsequently shown a red card - later rescinded by the Match Review Panel. Perez's affidavit explains that he was trying to round the goalkeeper, and it was then that contact was made.

Perth Glory are also considering whether to try to clear Michael Baird, who was handed the same suspension for an incident less than 24 hours after Perez's alleged dive. However, they appear are less likely to pursue a legal challenge.

On both occasions, the initial reaction from the referee was to award a penalty, which subsequently allowed both Central Coast and Perth to take valuable away draws from their matches against Sydney FC and Melbourne Heart respectively.

However, the panel found both players were guilty of simulation, overturning the red card handed to Reddy in the process. The Mariners have asked their legal team to look at every possible avenue for the suspension to be removed, either temporarily or completely. With an injunction against the FFA seemingly the only way Central Coast could have Perez free to play against Melbourne at Bluetongue Stadium, the Mariners would have to proceed with such action today.

Club officials declined to comment on the issue yesterday, only to say they were ''determined to explore every option''.

At the heart of the Mariners' concerns is that Perez has now been officially branded a ''diver'' by the league's governing body, without any recourse to an appeal.

The FFA last night confirmed its regulations would stand. Perez can't appeal because the panel deemed the matter worthy of the minimum ban for simulation (two matches) and wasn't required to be examined further by the disciplinary committee.

Elsewhere, Melbourne Victory midfielder Nicky Ward has made a surprise move to Wellington Phoenix on a one-year deal. And 19-year-old North Queensland striker Chris Payne has been named as the A-League's young footballer of the month after scoring two goals in the opening four matches.


SOURCE: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/a-league/mariners-could-set-legal-precedent-with-perez-diving-ban-challenge-20100901-14nov.html
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
This is taken from comments about the The Tyranny of Good Intentions in 2001” it is by William L. Anderson an American university teacher… I have only taken parts but it says a lot this particular issue … FFA have made themselves a law unto themselves… hope you enjoy.


tyranny2.jpg


http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson222.html

While we might look back to the signing of the Magna Charta in 1215 as the beginnings of what are called the Rights of Englishmen, perhaps the most influential document in the history of our law was (I emphasize "was") William Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England, published between 1765 and 1769. As Roberts and Stratton point out, Blackstone believed that the law should be a "shield for the innocent" and that the purpose of law (and government) was protection of innocent people (and their property) from predators – and from the predatory state.

From Blackstone’s vision came the view of "innocent until proven guilty," and the protection of rights for those who were accused. From Blackstone, we are given the famous quote: "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than one innocent suffer." Indeed, the concept Rights of Englishmen has been absolutely vital to the very idea of liberty in this country.

However, there also was a competing vision, one that was drawn up by the "father" of modern government, Jeremy Bentham, a British philosopher of the late 18th and early 19th centuries, the one who penned the term, "utilitarianism." Bentham scoffed at the idea of individual rights, and believed that the state needed to be a mechanism by which the largest number of people could be able to experience the greatest pleasure with the least amount of pain.

In Bentham’s view, the state was to accomplish that purpose by being as unrestrained as possible, led by people whose vision was superior to the vision of ordinary people who did not know better. Law, in Bentham’s view, was not to be a "shield" for innocent people, but rather a set of rules that would push people in a certain direction through incentives, both benign and harsh. Even wrongful convictions of innocent people were not harmful, for they empowered the state and sent a message to everyone else

Where Blackstone believed that government should be restrained by natural law, and be a "shield" for the innocent, Bentham saw the state’s role to be a sword against people who might threaten the well-being of those in political power. In his view, there was no such thing as "natural law;" indeed, law was nothing but a set of rules put into place by those who had power.
 

Brighty

Well-Known Member
There was a lad,
Only 5 foot none.
Perez his name,
Went on a run.
Perez is here,
Perez is there,
Perez is every,
F**king were.
He got tripped,
In the box.
And was felled,
Like an ox.
The FFA suits,
Slapped a fine.
Made it up,
That’s the crime.
We are here,
and we are mad.
For the lad,
we are sad.
All that’s left,
For us to say,
is f**k Sydney
and the FFA!

Absolutely awesome.... would love to hear this chanted out!!!

I'm crossing fingers CCM go the whole hog on this one and get an injunction to fairly and squarely stick it right up FFA's ass... and also allow him to atleast play this weekend!!
 

Matt--Simon

Well-Known Member
Too bad if their was a goal but it would be a good protest we need to do something to show our support?
Can anyone one make decent banners on sort notice?
Or get rod and the flack to make the announcement to the whole stadium to turn away for the first minute
 

pommypete

Well-Known Member
Another chant.
To the tune of "the animals went in 2 by 2 hurrah hurrah" or more commonly known as the Torres chant.

He went down ,like he had been shot dead

PEREZ , PEREZ

2 week ban, was what they said

PEREZ , PEREZ

He took it all without a moan
He gets the ball and he scores a goal

PATRICIO PEREZ

He wears our number 10

Nah,nah,nah etc etc......
 

northernspirit

Well-Known Member
Via the facebook page ive set up as a protest tommorrow night i recommend as many people here print off this picture (print as many as you can to hand out to those around you) and as the players all walk out onto the pitch hold them up

Link: http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q10/northernspirit/FFA-RED-LARGE.jpg
 

Matt--Simon

Well-Known Member
Do you think anyone listens to Rod and the Flack, or would do what they say! lol

Banners and chants are all that are left to us unless the club seeks and wins an injunction

This is all we get from the FFA on the MRP:
http://admin.footballaustralia.com.au/site/_content/document/00001823-source.pdf

Yeah good point about Rod and the Flack

In that link there is a point there that shows that decision is wrong

3.3
The Disciplinary Committee:
( a )
must determine matters that have been referred to it and impose such sanctions as are authorised and appropriate to the determination; and
( B )
may rectify OBVIOUS Error in the Referee’s disciplinary decisions,

They might want to read point B again
 

MagpieMariner

Well-Known Member
Can't help wistfully thinking that if Bozza had scored after WeePat had brutally kicked Reddy's wrist, then we wouldn't have all this nonsense.

Mind you, it could be said if the officials had spotted Matty's maybe handball first then we wouldn't have it either.
 

Matt--Simon

Well-Known Member
Looks like we just backed down




Mariners accept Perez ban
Thursday, 2 September 2010
by Glen Lauder

Following confirmation last night from Football Federation Australia (FFA) that the two-match suspension imposed upon Mariners midfielder Patricio Perez would stand, the Central Coast Mariners have today accepted FFA’s decision and will not be seeking to take any further action.

In doing so, the Mariners would like to express their disappointment that despite considerable discussion with FFA and other stakeholders, a way could not be found to enable the player an opportunity to defend himself through an appeal mechanism.

Mariners Chairman Peter Turnbull reaffirmed the club’s support for Perez and its belief that he was innocent of any wrongdoing.

"Patricio Perez has been recruited from Argentina, and in the half-hour he played against Sydney FC proved he may well be one of the greatest assets the Hyundai A-League has in its quest to become the pre-eminent football code in the country.

"Patricio maintains there was definitely contact by the goalkeeper on his back leg and the replays prove that he had his eyes on the ball at all times as he tried to round the ‘keeper to score.

"The club has engaged the assistance of Biomechanical experts from the University of Newcastle to study the vision of the incident, and the report they have provided us supports his innocence.

"(Referee) Matthew Breeze was in an excellent position and made an immediate decision after the goalkeeper left his line and lunged at the feet of Perez.

"Patricio is hugely respected in his home country, he’s played alongside some of the world’s biggest stars, and after this news reached the Argentine media, his reputation has suffered, but I would like to commend him for the dignity, respect and professional attitude he has shown through this most difficult time.

"We have also been overwhelmed by the amount of support we have received from Mariners Members and supporters, and from football supporters in general. Patricio and the club are indeed grateful for this support," said Mr Turnbull.

The Mariners will now do everything in their power to assist the FFA to review the regulations to ensure future fairness for all parties.

"We are firmly behind the FFA’s determination to rid the game of simulation and it is pleasing to hear that the FFA will set up a taskforce to review the system and make recommendations to a formal review of the regulations and we would be more than happy to be involved in that should FFA require.

"The Mariners have a massive home game against Melbourne Victory tomorrow night at Bluetongue Stadium, and we would urge all of our Members and supporters to get out and show their support for a team who has had a pretty tough week," said Mr Turnbull.
 

Restrepo

Member
Well that puts an end to that I can't help but feel we are just pulling the FFA line here in some way. This completely stinks as I think we all know if this went to the Court of Arbitration for Sport we would win hands down. I also still think PP has a very good case to sue for slander against all of the members of the MRP and the FFA itself.

Will also add that as a supporter, I feel the club has not done everything to support one of it's own players and the fans here, very very disappointing
 

kevrenor

Well-Known Member
Our club will not try to fight ''City Hall'':

http://www.ccmariners.com.au/default.aspx?s=aleague_newsdisplay&id=35083

Even more reason for the fans to continue to support Patricio and to protest against the FFA!
 

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