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Central Coast Mariners v Kawasaki Frontale AFC CL 3rd Round

Arabmariner

Well-Known Member
Sometimes coaches just reach their use by date at certain clubs.Once they lose the dressing room and the message stops getting through it's time to go.It doesn't do the coach or the club any good hanging around once it gets to that point.

Imo if Lawrie hangs around as coach for another season it'll be a disaster and he won't do his own future prospects elsewhere any good either.

I think he should move upstairs in some capacity.
 

Part_Timer

Well-Known Member
grendel said:
I take it from the lack of condemnation of the flare that people either approved or have held back.  As far as I'm concerned, the brain-dead f**k who brought it into the stadium and let it off can f**k off and never come back.  If you get the club a big fine from FFA or AFC, how clever is that?  I hope someone identifies you and the club takes action you wanker!

i totally agree, and have made it my mission to identify this GGA supporter.. i have been cleared to use all resources available from my scientology brothers....will keep you posted
 

serious14

Well-Known Member
Bloody GGA, trying to ruin our good name.

I will be asking around their forums in an effort to find out who it was.  Such despicable behaviour cannot stand.  :naughty:
 

Auburn Mariner

Well-Known Member
Morning all,

Some random points:

1. Kawasaki were simply sublime. Fast, skillful, talented, confident. An absolute master-class from a team that will surely make the Final Four, unless they have to play away in Doha or Makkah in 91 degrees Celsius AND get an Australian referee.

2. We were not good.

3. 5 Kamikazes in the Air was brilliant, the young bloke sang it all the way home to Aberglasslyn.

4. The flare, which was orange, and I thought the same colour as the one at Stadium Australia, was amazing. The stillness of the air meant that the smoke lingered for ages, and being so close to it was just a real eye-opener (and no, I swear on the Bradman Albums that it was NOT me that ripped the flare).

5. The pitch has gone from crud to JUST average.

6. The second half in the Bay was very funny and worth the price of admission alone.

7. There were 9000 people there? Really???

8. Love the anthem.

9. Kwassie had a real go and looked like a bloke that has decided to go flat out at every opportunity.

10. Watching ACL games with wife, son, all of my best friends, bloody great, DESPITE the score.

11. It's funny the partners of the opposite sex that are chosen for casual entertainment when copious amounts of alcohol are involved.

12. Kane is an Ewok.


Oh well, onto Japan. I hope Lawrie does NOT Park_the_Bus, stuff it, throw the kitchen sink at 'em, and hack into 'em!!
 

kanewillow

Well-Known Member
Auburn Mariner said:
Morning all,

Some random points:

1. Kawasaki were simply sublime. Fast, skillful, talented, confident. An absolute master-class from a team that will surely make the Final Four, unless they have to play away in Doha or Makkah in 91 degrees Celsius AND get an Australian referee.

2. We were not good.

3. 5 Kamikaze's in the Air was brilliant, the young bloke sang it all the way home to Aberglasslyn.

4. The flare, which was orange, and I thought the same colour as the one at Stadium Australia, was amazing. The stillness of the air meant that the smoke lingered for ages, and being so close to it was just a real eye-opener (and no, I swear on the Bradman Albums that it was NOT me that ripped the flare).

5. The pitch has gone from crud to JUST average.

6. The second half in the Bay was very funny and worth the price of admission alone.

7. There were 9000 people there? Really???

8. Love the anthem.

9. Kwassie had a real go and looked like a bloke that has decided to go flat out at every opportunity.

10. Watching ACL games with wife, son, all of my best friends, bloody great, DESPITE the score.

11. It's funny the partners of the opposite sex that are chosen for casual entertainment when copious amounts of alcohol are involved.

12. Kane is an Ewok.


Oh well, onto Japan. I hope Lawrie does NOT Park_the_Bus, stuff it, throw the kitchen sink at 'em, and hack into 'em!!

id like number 12 to be retracted
 

TerrigalUtd

Well-Known Member
Mariners: Nothing to lose

EXCLUSIVE Despite the 5-0 home loss to Kawasaki Frontale, Central Coast hitman Nick Mrdja is upbeat ahead of their April 21 ACL group match against the J-League power in Japan.

Speaking after Wednesday night's one-sided ACL group stage match in Gosford, the Coast striker was happy to talk up his side's chances at the Todoroki stadium in south Tokyo but conceded fixing defensive lapses was a priority over the next two weeks.

"Obviously dead ball situations we need to work on. Their free kicks that they scored from ... that's sort of what got their run going [tonight]," he told au.fourfourtwo.com.

"Copping two goals from set pieces, what can you do? You can't take it back now so we've just got to work on it.

"In the group stage you want to win your homes games and try get results away, so now we're going to go over there and try to pinch something and try win it and redeem ourselves."

Mrjda had one good chance in the first half to score with just keeper Eiji Kawashima to beat but like most of the Coast's  performance, he failed to deliver when needed. 

He added: "It's not so that they [Kawasaki] are so good," he added. "I mean they're good and there's a lot of quality there, but we're still making mistakes and letting them look good."

And Mrdja admitted the Coast have "nothing to lose" when they visit Kawasaki in less than two weeks.

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/100708,mariners-nothing-to-lose.aspx
 

georgemladenov

Well-Known Member
For those of us still daring to dream of progression to the R16, frankly there is alot to lose in this next round.

If Pohang (away to Tianjin) better our result in Tokyo, we stand next to no chance of qualification. For instance, Pohang win in China, we lose, we're 6 behind second with an attrocious goal difference.

Ideally, we're hoping for Tianjin to win the match, so that even if we lose we're only 2 behind Tianjin and 3 behind Pohang with matches against both to come. A point against Kawasaki and a Tianjin win would mean we could afford a draw in Korea, and still qualify if we beat Tianjin and Kawasaki beat Pohang (and Tianjin do not beat Kawasaki in China).
 
J

jiggles

Guest
Auburn Mariner said:
12. Kane is an Ewok.

Actually, he's a singing, dancing chicken nugget was the rumour I heard in the bay off a drunk individual.
 

MrCelery

Well-Known Member
promdi442 said:
Bearinator said:
Central Coast striker Nik Mrdja added that after the first Kawasaki goal went in, it reignited some old defensive uncertainties from the back end of the last A-League season. "I suppose we thought here we go again," he said.

What a buck passing son of a gun Mrdja is. After Mrdja missed the sitter in the 3rd minute in the area where I was sitting among the supporters there, it ignited the same old OFFENSIVE UNCERTAINTIES from the back end of the last A-League season. "We thought, here we go again. And Nik we weren't wrong coz that 1v1 was another embarrasing moment in your embarrasing tenure at CCM that has many more negatives than positives. Dont blame the defence for your inadequcies in front of goal Nik they had nothing to do with your inept display as a striker.

And of course the ex-sheepdipper from across the ditch (send him back there) showed yet again how scoring goals for him will be mainly through penalties not in open play for which I thought he was getting paid.

And Porters comment about  "But I think to a certain extent we let them play. Maybe we gave them a little too much respect. You give anyone time on the ball and they're going to be able to play."   . . . we chased shadows all night. How many times did a Kawasaki player have more than four touches whilst in possession? The majority of the night it was either one or two touch and we were nowhere to be seen. We were metres behind nearly all night.

Having said that, inexplicably we had five or six gilt edged chances that should have been dealt with better than they were and so we are left winless 4 months into 2009.

So Nik have a good look at yourself and include anyone else who purports to think they are goalscorers and understand that if we dont score we dont win.

Brazil traditionally had a weak defence BUT they had players who could score (most times) more goals than the defence leaked. So I suppose we are in a way like Brazil with one major exception. We leak the goals BUT dont have the firepower to score more than we leak.     

I usually refrain from criticizing players, but enough is enough regarding Nik. Considering the patience the Club has had with his injuries and poor form, etc., he has simply has not given anything back in return that I can see.

The number of times I see him wake from what seems like daydreaming in a match as the ball comes near him drives me mad. Not to mention his overall ineffectiveness in games.

Yes, there have been a few very occasional glimpses of what he may be capable of, but they are too few and far between.

I'm baffled at why he has been retained for so long.

And to blame this game's performance solely on the defence is the height of arrogance.

The whole performance was indeed sub-standard on the night, but I came away strongly feeling that Nik's poor effort was a major contributor.
 

Roy Law

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That flare: It invokes all memories of the bad reputation of soccer in this country, as in Old Soccer, you know, the one that is supposed to be replaced by New Football. At a time when other football codes are reeling with the negative impact of rape allegations, drunken behaviour and drug use, the Socceroos and the A-League are presenting the cleanest of images, sponsors are signing up for the code in preference to the others because of this clean reputation (Schweppes have just increased their sponsorship deal with FFA). There are plenty out there who cannot accept the fact that football as we know it is entitled to sit at the same table as the other codes. We do not need some moron to give the media any excuse to put the boot in. According to scribes who promote other codes soccer is wogball, the game of Sheilas, Wogs and Poofters and they still have the perception of crowd misbehaviour as being the province of soccer. It is incomprehensible to me how people can be so stupid as to let off a flare at the game. It is hooligan behaviour. This moron should be banned from the game for life
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
Didn't let it off, am not someone who would bring a flare to the ground, but frankly on Wednesday night it was hardly the flare that would discourage people from returning to a football match.

If I were considering whether to attend a sporting event, I'd be much more concerned about massive brawls in carparks (i.e. at the NRL match at Newcastle last weekend) or hooligan bashings outside grounds (i.e. at the AFL match in Melbourne last weekend) than a single flare in the supporters' end.

Watching your team show up and play like absolute chumps would be far more of a concern.
 

Dr Nick

Well-Known Member
The maing thing that dissapointed me - we go one down to any a-league team we start kicking lumps out of them, we go five down to kawasaki, noone looks motivated to do anything, not even try a big tackle
 

Kanagawa

Member
Roy Law said:
That flare: It invokes all memories of the bad reputation of soccer in this country, as in Old Soccer, you know, the one that is supposed to be replaced by New Football. At a time when other football codes are reeling with the negative impact of rape allegations, drunken behaviour and drug use, the Socceroos and the A-League are presenting the cleanest of images, sponsors are signing up for the code in preference to the others because of this clean reputation (Schweppes have just increased their sponsorship deal with FFA). There are plenty out there who cannot accept the fact that football as we know it is entitled to sit at the same table as the other codes. We do not need some moron to give the media any excuse to put the boot in. According to scribes who promote other codes soccer is wogball, the game of Sheilas, Wogs and Poofters and they still have the perception of crowd misbehaviour as being the province of soccer. It is incomprehensible to me how people can be so stupid as to let off a flare at the game. It is hooligan behaviour. This moron should be banned from the game for life

100% right, anyone who defends the flare or thinks it was really cool is just showing their stupidity and ignorance.

Mick I realise the flare may not have been let off by a regular Marinator but there is a disturbing amount of people reacting to it positively on this forum
 

grendel

Well-Known Member
Kanagawa said:
Roy Law said:
That flare: It invokes all memories of the bad reputation of soccer in this country, as in Old Soccer, you know, the one that is supposed to be replaced by New Football. At a time when other football codes are reeling with the negative impact of rape allegations, drunken behaviour and drug use, the Socceroos and the A-League are presenting the cleanest of images, sponsors are signing up for the code in preference to the others because of this clean reputation (Schweppes have just increased their sponsorship deal with FFA). There are plenty out there who cannot accept the fact that football as we know it is entitled to sit at the same table as the other codes. We do not need some moron to give the media any excuse to put the boot in. According to scribes who promote other codes soccer is wogball, the game of Sheilas, Wogs and Poofters and they still have the perception of crowd misbehaviour as being the province of soccer. It is incomprehensible to me how people can be so stupid as to let off a flare at the game. It is hooligan behaviour. This moron should be banned from the game for life

100% right, anyone who defends the flare or thinks it was really cool is just showing their stupidity and ignorance.

Mick I realise the flare may not have been let off by a regular Marinator but there is a disturbing amount of people reacting to it positively on this forum

Just what I was trying to say, only more polite....those who don't see it and think it's funny just have their heads in, well, a bucket of sand!
 

serious14

Well-Known Member
Roy Law said:
It is incomprehensible to me how people can be so stupid as to let off a flare at the game. It is hooligan behaviour. This moron should be banned from the game for life

So the nearly two hundred and something other countries around the world (and their leagues, with their multiple divisions) that not only have no problem with them being let off, but in many cases, actively encourage it as it adds to the atmosphere (Poland, Turkey, Greece, Iran - just to name a few examples) are nothing but a pack of "hooligans" who should all be banned from football for life??

From dictionary.com - "Hooligan, noun, A tough and aggressive or violent youth".  Does that sound at all like the behaviour of the Bay on Wednesday night??  I was rather close to the flare and I can tell you:

i).  It most certainly added to the atmosphere in a positive way

ii).  The person who ripped it actively prepared for it - flags were moved out of the way so as not to catch fire and the people around were told where it was going to be dropped so they could get their feet out of the way/cover their face

iii).  It led to some very impressive photo's

iv).  As I was leaving the stadium, I asked people what they thought of it and listened in on others random comments.  One person out of the nearly 30 I asked disapproved, and they were in their 50's.  The rest loved it, said it was like being in a "proper football crowd" (their words, not mine).

For too long the FFA has stifled proper active support in this country - it would seem we have reached a point where those who are concerned by such things have decided to take a stance.

P.S.  Where's your moral outrage over the Kamikazi song, or are you one of those Daily Telegraph reading "selective whingers"??
 

clarence

Well-Known Member
When I heard about the flare from someone who went to the match, my first thoughts were that Bay 16 was going to be in deep do doo. I am not a great fan of flares myself, I always felt there was potential for a fire to start or someone's clothing to catch alight.

But then I had a chuckle to myself and thought, well, losing 5-0 and they rip a flare.

Good way to tell the club that the fans are in distress! Does anyone know if that was the intent behind the flare being ripped?
 

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