Central Coast Mariners Squad for 2009/10 HAL Season

[FFC Mariner]

Sycophant alert

 

[Wombat]

If we dont even have enough money to reach the salary cap while other clubs do, then perhaps the club is not financially viable.

The club isn't financially viable.
We are lucky to have a team.
Enjoy it.

How did we go from being one of only 2 teams to make a profit to be unviable????

Please explain.

 

[marinermick]

If we dont even have enough money to reach the salary cap while other clubs do, then perhaps the club is not financially viable.

The club isn't financially viable.
We are lucky to have a team.
Enjoy it.

How did we go from being one of only 2 teams to make a profit to be unviable????

Please explain.

Well considering it has pretty much been stated throughout this and other threads let me summarise:

Very small profit season three through large crowds and sponsorship money as well as frugal spending. Losses season four through lower crowds, lower sponsorship, preparation for ACL and ACL campaign. Mile's transfer fee covered some of these losses but not all.

Now A-League losses are traditionally covered by wealthy owners who happily dip the odd million or two in their pockets.

Our current owners are involved in industries (property and banking) that have been ravaged by the global financial crisis which has severely affect their cash flow. They are also not as wealthy as most a-league owners whose a-league operations are only a small pittance compared to their whole business operations and therefore club losses hurt them more.

No cash flow = no money to cover losses, which means the purse strings have been tightened.

When the economy picks up again the money will start flowing back.

What I find completely unbelievable is that people can easily take cheap shots on this forum against Lyall Gorman and Peter Turnball yet they are the ones stumping the cash to ensure you have a team to support. They are the ones juggling their own tight finances to continue to ensure we have a team on the coast and the community. They then rein in spending to ensure the Mariners have a future and are attacked for it, and in the worst case accused of sitting on their arses, sipping champagne and hording the money from the Mile transfer.

The then realists, who have a modicom of understanding on how finances work and how risky it is to run a football club, are then labelled sychophants for ironically supporting their own club.

 

[Blair]

If you wanna talk bout Money issue make a thread this is Central Coast Mariners Squad for 2009/10 HAL Season tlk bout the squad not the board or ppl outside the team, club

 

[FFC Mariner]

It is sorta relevant because people seem to think we have huge wodges of cash to throw around and are getting pissed off that we werent in the running for Kaka.

more importantly, has anyone got feedback on what our triallists were like in the 2 Qld games?

 

[yarno]

If we dont even have enough money to reach the salary cap while other clubs do, then perhaps the club is not financially viable.

The club isn't financially viable.
We are lucky to have a team.
Enjoy it.

How did we go from being one of only 2 teams to make a profit to be unviable????

Please explain.

Well considering it has pretty much been stated throughout this and other threads let me summarise:

Very small profit season three through large crowds and sponsorship money as well as frugal spending. Losses season four through lower crowds, lower sponsorship, preparation for ACL and ACL campaign. Mile's transfer fee covered some of these losses but not all.

Now A-League losses are traditionally covered by wealthy owners who happily dip the odd million or two in their pockets.

Our current owners are involved in industries (property and banking) that have been ravaged by the global financial crisis which has severely affect their cash flow. They are also not as wealthy as most a-league owners whose a-league operations are only a small pittance compared to their whole business operations and therefore club losses hurt them more.

No cash flow = no money to cover losses, which means the purse strings have been tightened.

When the economy picks up again the money will start flowing back.

What I find completely unbelievable is that people can easily take cheap shots on this forum against Lyall Gorman and Peter Turnball yet they are the ones stumping the cash to ensure you have a team to support. They are the ones juggling their own tight finances to continue to ensure we have a team on the coast and the community. They then rein in spending to ensure the Mariners have a future and are attacked for it, and in the worst case accused of sitting on their arses, sipping champagne and hording the money from the Mile transfer.

The then realists, who have a modicom of understanding on how finances work and how risky it is to run a football club, are then labelled sychophants for ironically supporting their own club.

Yes that is true that most losses are covered by deep owners. When it comes to business financials though. This usually goes down as a loan or investment after the profit or loss is derived from the business after expenses are taken from trading income. So that the business will get a tax break.

If we are running at a profit I'd say lyall gorman and peter turnbull have had a good year to keep an eye on their own finances rather than dipping into their pockets to bail out a loss.
The club is therefore self sustaining.

So I have to completely disagree with the club being financially unviable. Who knows what the future holds and we are unlikely to have any highly paid marquee's ever.
But if the club can support itself and stay around, whilst continuing to get results (1 premier plate, 1 pre season cup, 2 grand final appearences) we should all be happy.

Would be nice to see some flair in the side, some more caceras's (maybe more consistent) but I doubt he is on mega bucks. So we don't have to break the bank to get some more creativity.

More creativity in the midfield, a quick dribbler up front to add variety and a defensive leader. No offence wilko, but no beauchamp or vidmar or bosnich shows big time.

 

[Arabmariner]

If we dont even have enough money to reach the salary cap while other clubs do, then perhaps the club is not financially viable.

The club isn't financially viable.
We are lucky to have a team.
Enjoy it.

How did we go from being one of only 2 teams to make a profit to be unviable????

Please explain.

Well considering it has pretty much been stated throughout this and other threads let me summarise:

Very small profit season three through large crowds and sponsorship money as well as frugal spending. Losses season four through lower crowds, lower sponsorship, preparation for ACL and ACL campaign. Mile's transfer fee covered some of these losses but not all.

Now A-League losses are traditionally covered by wealthy owners who happily dip the odd million or two in their pockets.

Our current owners are involved in industries (property and banking) that have been ravaged by the global financial crisis which has severely affect their cash flow. They are also not as wealthy as most a-league owners whose a-league operations are only a small pittance compared to their whole business operations and therefore club losses hurt them more.

No cash flow = no money to cover losses, which means the purse strings have been tightened.

When the economy picks up again the money will start flowing back.

What I find completely unbelievable is that people can easily take cheap shots on this forum against Lyall Gorman and Peter Turnball yet they are the ones stumping the cash to ensure you have a team to support. They are the ones juggling their own tight finances to continue to ensure we have a team on the coast and the community. They then rein in spending to ensure the Mariners have a future and are attacked for it, and in the worst case accused of sitting on their arses, sipping champagne and hording the money from the Mile transfer.

The then realists, who have a modicom of understanding on how finances work and how risky it is to run a football club, are then labelled sychophants for ironically supporting their own club.

Who knows what the future holds and we are unlikely to have any highly paid marquee's ever.
But if the club can support itself and stay around, whilst continuing to get results (1 premier plate, 1 pre season cup, 2 grand final appearences) we should all be happy.

Would be nice to see some flair in the side, some more caceras's (maybe more consistent) but I doubt he is on mega bucks. So we don't have to break the bank to get some more creativity.

More creativity in the midfield, a quick dribbler up front to add variety and a defensive leader. No offence wilko, but no beauchamp or vidmar or bosnich shows big time.

At this level we are unlikely to bringing in players we've all heard of before.But that doesn't mean we can't be more creative.

No matter what level we're at there will be players around who are more creative than most.Finding these players is the issue and that's a matter for the coaching staff.

 

[kevrenor]

"Former Cobblers captain becomes a Coastie

The Central Coast Mariners have made the first significant signing of an off-season recruitment drive, with the news former Northampton Town skipper Chris Doig has agreed to a 2 year deal with the Yellow and Navy.

"Chris comes to the Mariners with some pedigree, Im sure both his leadership qualities and his football skill will make him an excellent addition to our squad," said Mariners Executive Chairman Lyall Gorman.

"Chris signing is the first of several before we kick off our Hyundai A-League 2009/10 season against Melbourne on August 6, and we feel attracting this kind of player is vital in ensuring the Central Coast continues to perform the way members and fans deserve.

The former Scotland Under 21s representative has played 232 competitive matches in Englands top three divisions, making his first team debut with Nottingham Forest on the grandest stage of them all, against the might of Manchester United, in a Premier League clash at Old Trafford, as a 17-year-old on Boxing Day 1998.

The 187cm tall central defender went on to play 93 matches for Forest, and following a brief loan spell at Northampton in 2003, shifted permanently from the City Ground to Sixfields ahead of the 2005/06 season.

There, he joined the likes of current Central Coast squad member Pedj Bojic, and racked up 130 competitive appearances for the Cobblers, becoming the clubs captain along the way.

Chris comes highly respected from plenty of good judges in the UK, Ive seen a DVD of him and he has great presence in the box, a solid left footed stopper, but hes also a solid professional, and Im looking forward to seeing what he can do in the Hyundai A-League, Central Coast football manager Lawrie McKinna said.

We are still looking at bringing in some more new faces, but as Ive said before, they have to be better than what we have already got. Well sort through some CVs over the next couple of weeks while the boys are on holiday, and we should have some more lads on board before the squad gets back.

The 28 year old had no problem in passing a medical examination conducted by the Mariners sister club Sheffield United, and will join up with the current squad when they return to pre-season training on June 29.

Player Profile

Chris Doig
D.O.B 13/2/1981
Height 187cm
Weight 78kg

Career Achievements

Nottingham Forest 1998-2005 93 games, 1 goal.
Northampton Town (loan) 2003 9 games, 0 goals.
Northampton Town 2005-09 130 games, 5 goals".

Source:
Glen Lauder
CCMFC Media

 

[mariners4ever]

just a few points
- good to see mariners are getting some signings done
- good to see them signing a player with experience
- i wonder if bojic played a part in this signing ???
- lastly, intersting to see him having the medical with sheffield, maybe he has some commitments over there to prevent him from doing it here, but otherwise good to see sheffield giving us a helping hand


hmm not yet on the mariners website

 

[UnitedsNo9]

Could be a HARD man we need... I'm keen to see him in action, especially with a bit of a pre-season. Also glad with the fact that he had no trouble passing a medical... A few more good signings to get a real competition for spots going will lift performance especially if we can get a few wins in preseason to boost morale, even if they come against 'lesser' teams. Bring on V5!!!!!!!!!! 

 

[scottmac]

Good to see that we have signed a leader at the back. Lets hope he is an absolute c**t!

 

[Arabmariner]

Good to see that we have signed a leader at the back. Lets hope he is an absolute c**t!

+1

New captain possibly ?

 

[kevrenor]

... Also glad with the fact that he had no trouble passing a medical...

Yes, particularly as this media report dates from his release by NT on 5 May 2009:

"Doig has paid the price for an injury-strewn couple of years he has played 51 times in the past two seasons"

If under better weather conditions Clarky can get more than 26 games a season out of him that should be enough.

 

[bjw]

"Former Cobblers captain becomes a Coastie

The Central Coast Mariners have made the first significant signing of an off-season recruitment drive, with the news former Northampton Town skipper Chris Doig has agreed to a 2 year deal with the Yellow and Navy.

"Chris comes to the Mariners with some pedigree, Im sure both his leadership qualities and his football skill will make him an excellent addition to our squad," said Mariners Executive Chairman Lyall Gorman.

"Chris signing is the first of several before we kick off our Hyundai A-League 2009/10 season against Melbourne on August 6, and we feel attracting this kind of player is vital in ensuring the Central Coast continues to perform the way members and fans deserve.

The former Scotland Under 21s representative has played 232 competitive matches in Englands top three divisions, making his first team debut with Nottingham Forest on the grandest stage of them all, against the might of Manchester United, in a Premier League clash at Old Trafford, as a 17-year-old on Boxing Day 1998.

The 187cm tall central defender went on to play 93 matches for Forest, and following a brief loan spell at Northampton in 2003, shifted permanently from the City Ground to Sixfields ahead of the 2005/06 season.

There, he joined the likes of current Central Coast squad member Pedj Bojic, and racked up 130 competitive appearances for the Cobblers, becoming the clubs captain along the way.

Chris comes highly respected from plenty of good judges in the UK, Ive seen a DVD of him and he has great presence in the box, a solid left footed stopper, but hes also a solid professional, and Im looking forward to seeing what he can do in the Hyundai A-League, Central Coast football manager Lawrie McKinna said.

We are still looking at bringing in some more new faces, but as Ive said before, they have to be better than what we have already got. Well sort through some CVs over the next couple of weeks while the boys are on holiday, and we should have some more lads on board before the squad gets back.

The 28 year old had no problem in passing a medical examination conducted by the Mariners sister club Sheffield United, and will join up with the current squad when they return to pre-season training on June 29.

Player Profile

Chris Doig
D.O.B 13/2/1981
Height 187cm
Weight 78kg

Career Achievements

Nottingham Forest 1998-2005 93 games, 1 goal.
Northampton Town (loan) 2003 9 games, 0 goals.
Northampton Town 2005-09 130 games, 5 goals".

Source:
Glen Lauder
CCMFC Media

Finally, some new faces..
hopefully more to come... (the two Serbians plz.)

 

[FFC Mariner]

Great news indeed.

Looking forward to seeing him belt someone hard and early

 

[bjw]

Great news indeed.

Looking forward to seeing him belt someone hard and early

Archie Thompson round 1

and take your pick from the scum in round 2.

 

[Arabmariner]

... Also glad with the fact that he had no trouble passing a medical...

Yes, particularly as this media report dates from his release by NT on 5 May 2009:

"Doig has paid the price for an injury-strewn couple of years – he has played 51 times in the past two seasons"

If under better weather conditions Clarky can get more than 26 games a season out of him that should be enough.

Exactly.

51 games is 2 full seasons out here.

 

[scottmac]

Great news indeed.

Looking forward to seeing him belt someone hard and early

Archie Thompson round 1

and take your pick from the scum in round 2.

Oh yeah, Thompson please!

Ok starting to fire up, finished with all the bullshit talk about club finances (still vialble discussion just over it) and trying to think of Doig songs.

 

[dru]

Didn't see this one coming no-sir-ree.


Should we draw up a hit list so he knows who to take out to become a cult hero?

 

[UnitedsNo9]

Aloisi??? :