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Central Coast Mariners Squad for 2009/10 HAL Season
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ok...so lets go with your idea
dont score any goals? i absolutely loved the not scoring against Teda
Kwassie right now is the only guy that will somewat steadily contribute goals until Simon returns
Macca aint a prolific goal scorer, Mrdja is...not able to be depended upon,
If you dont like it wats ur suggestion (key word- I actually never said we should sign him- just pointed out his availability)
Oh wait- its probably easier (and more enjoyable) to bag me out instead :
Or next game you could juststart chanting Sasho Petrovski again
dont score any goals? i absolutely loved the not scoring against Teda
Kwassie right now is the only guy that will somewat steadily contribute goals until Simon returns
Macca aint a prolific goal scorer, Mrdja is...not able to be depended upon,
If you dont like it wats ur suggestion (key word- I actually never said we should sign him- just pointed out his availability)
Oh wait- its probably easier (and more enjoyable) to bag me out instead :
Or next game you could juststart chanting Sasho Petrovski again
Deej
Well-Known Member
Kareem said:ok...so lets go with your idea
dont score any goals? i absolutely loved the not scoring against Teda
Kwassie right now is the only guy that will somewat steadily contribute goals until Simon returns
Macca aint a prolific goal scorer, Mrdja is...not able to be depended upon,
If you dont like it wats ur suggestion (key word- I actually never said we should sign him- just pointed out his availability)
Oh wait- its probably easier (and more enjoyable) to bag me out instead :
Or next game you could juststart chanting Sasho Petrovski again
You wouldn't have heard me chanting that name.
Yes let's go with my idea, let's look for the right players before jumping into a potentially stupid decision.
Matty Simon - yep obviously our major threat at this point
Kwas - showed decent form last 2 games and despite what some people say he's still our top scorer so can find the back of the net
Macca - disappointing end to the season but early on there were some calls for a socceroo call up and contributed well
Mrdja - Again, IF (which is a big if) he keeps fit can unlock any defence in this league
A striker still needs service which we don't have through the middle of the park at the moment, we have some decent wingers but they need to gain fitness and confidence.
I agree we may very well need a striker but if we do it's gotta be someone who can excite the crowd, what we really need more importantly is a creative midfielder and someone to tighten up the defence. I'd rather spend more on 2-3 exceptional players for this level rather than 5-6 average players which Younis has so far proved to be.
am i missing something?
2-3 exceptional players?
Considering our recent form recruiting wise- thats not going to happen (unfortunately)
dont get me wrong- i agree 100% with your ambitions- just I have kind of come to accept that we will stick with ordinary players...
i am just concerned that with caceres and elrich (+ kwassie to an extent) creating oppurtunities, who will take them
ofcourse I would like an exceptional player- but where are they, and will out Mgt let them get away?
2-3 exceptional players?
Considering our recent form recruiting wise- thats not going to happen (unfortunately)
dont get me wrong- i agree 100% with your ambitions- just I have kind of come to accept that we will stick with ordinary players...
i am just concerned that with caceres and elrich (+ kwassie to an extent) creating oppurtunities, who will take them
ofcourse I would like an exceptional player- but where are they, and will out Mgt let them get away?
Roy Law
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I have trolled the Northamton websites about Chris Doig and offer this set of comments from fans-
"So sad to see Chris Doig go, although it was inevitable I suppose. He's been a solid and dependable player -but really looks to have lost something with his last injury."
"If Chris Doig has been released then please at least show him the respect that he deserves. Up until his recent injury he was a rock for this club and a true Cobbler."
"Doig gone - good at least we might get somebody with a bit of bite at the back"
"Big respect to Doigy if he goes - a good servant for us over the years."
"I guess Doig is the highest wage earner of the club but is one of the post injury prone"
"a crocked/too slow centre half in Doigy"
leaves me somewhat underwhelmed...the most important, the most crucial, signing for next season is a quality CB. A player who not only knows how to defend but can also inspire and improve those around him. If we can't sign a quality CB then there is no point dreaming about Sterjovski or Viduka or any other flash attacking player because we will still leak more goals than they can score. An injury prone slow centreback wasn't what I had in mind
"So sad to see Chris Doig go, although it was inevitable I suppose. He's been a solid and dependable player -but really looks to have lost something with his last injury."
"If Chris Doig has been released then please at least show him the respect that he deserves. Up until his recent injury he was a rock for this club and a true Cobbler."
"Doig gone - good at least we might get somebody with a bit of bite at the back"
"Big respect to Doigy if he goes - a good servant for us over the years."
"I guess Doig is the highest wage earner of the club but is one of the post injury prone"
"a crocked/too slow centre half in Doigy"
leaves me somewhat underwhelmed...the most important, the most crucial, signing for next season is a quality CB. A player who not only knows how to defend but can also inspire and improve those around him. If we can't sign a quality CB then there is no point dreaming about Sterjovski or Viduka or any other flash attacking player because we will still leak more goals than they can score. An injury prone slow centreback wasn't what I had in mind
here's hoping smaller season does him good if we sign him...
bojic had a few bad injuires back at Northhampton as well...so you never know!
That said- why else would he expect english/scottish defenders to come here?
for the lifestyle? Only now are we even beginning to appeal to lower league Aussies (let alone the Brits) eg. Huke, bojic etc.
bojic had a few bad injuires back at Northhampton as well...so you never know!
That said- why else would he expect english/scottish defenders to come here?
for the lifestyle? Only now are we even beginning to appeal to lower league Aussies (let alone the Brits) eg. Huke, bojic etc.
Kareem said:
But younis is shit? Has proved he doesnt have it at this level.
Even reading an article quoting his coach saying that younis is just starting to get his touch back. The same coach a few days ago said d'apuzzo, who was injured for a good chunk of the season, has returned a far better player.
If we need a striker we can do far better, from just about anywhere
After spending zero during a dismal AFC showing, and that's putting as nicely as I can manage, I thought our tight arse management could spend a few dollars getting Viduka or someone of remotely similar standing.
I have not taken to managements lack of funding for new players well especially the wasted sponsorship and exposure opportunity of the CL. Stupid and short sighted.
I wonder whether McKinna has had his day continuing to put players on the field that are not up to it. Clarke is an excellent example. If he's a starting back then were f#$%ed.
Getting rid of gumps and keeping clarke. Stupid. I know some will be pi$%ed with my comments but that's reality. The others released hardly played so will make no difference to the quality of the team.
This team is turning into a boys club and if real changes are not made regarding many players in all positions we will end up with the spoon this year. The cluyb needs to broaden it's horizons regarding players and start scouring the earth for talent.
My passion for the club and Australian football is the reason for this rant so please don't take it the wrong way.
I have not taken to managements lack of funding for new players well especially the wasted sponsorship and exposure opportunity of the CL. Stupid and short sighted.
I wonder whether McKinna has had his day continuing to put players on the field that are not up to it. Clarke is an excellent example. If he's a starting back then were f#$%ed.
Getting rid of gumps and keeping clarke. Stupid. I know some will be pi$%ed with my comments but that's reality. The others released hardly played so will make no difference to the quality of the team.
This team is turning into a boys club and if real changes are not made regarding many players in all positions we will end up with the spoon this year. The cluyb needs to broaden it's horizons regarding players and start scouring the earth for talent.
My passion for the club and Australian football is the reason for this rant so please don't take it the wrong way.
FFC Mariner
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I would have a 1 year punt on Younis.
Strong and aggressive and I remember a certain M Simon struggling to adjust when he 1st came into HAL.
Matty is injured, Dylan is not (and has never been) a prolific goalscorer and if we get 6 games out of Mrdja we will be doing well.
Brady is a year or 2 off IMHO and if we needed a cheap squad filler, we could do far worse.
Strong and aggressive and I remember a certain M Simon struggling to adjust when he 1st came into HAL.
Matty is injured, Dylan is not (and has never been) a prolific goalscorer and if we get 6 games out of Mrdja we will be doing well.
Brady is a year or 2 off IMHO and if we needed a cheap squad filler, we could do far worse.
dru
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snowroo said:
Negativity is awesome.
The problem with Viduka is unless he is in to the last 3 months of his contract he generally just doesn't seem to give a feck, so unless we pay him by the goal it is really not a good person to go after. As for someone of a similar standard, I assume you mean someone playing top flight football in a foriegn league, I dare say those players are earning more than our board makes in a year if you want us to be broke in a year go right ahead and suggest that they put a marquee request in for any number of off contract EPL, etc players.
I'm sorry about the percieved negativity but after watching our losses during last season and the CL disappointment I think some need to be jolted out of the confortable situation they are in. That goes for some players, McKinna and management that while the Jets after the seasons disappointment did what was necessary in purchasing new talent and replacing those not good enough they go through to the next round with increased prize money that will pay for some of the squad and increase the overall worth of the club both financially and support wise. Good luck to them.
Look at crowd numbers last season......no marquee player and currently no plans to invest in one. I know management is investing in other ventures but I am a football supporter not a supporter of a great long term investment for a businessman.
Our management could'nt see this obviously and wonder whether it's with the full support of our to comfotable coach. Let's face it football the world over their are clubs that perform much better with a new coach. Don't like leaving better players on the bench because of whatever reason. I heard many in the crowds over the last couple of years express that sentiment. The sort of people who make up the decrease in crowd support that is a reality.
Not negitive but IMO real problems that left to fester will see us struggling next season and without rectification will cause future seasons of heartache.
I want to see us win the toilet seat. I want us to win the CL.
Look at crowd numbers last season......no marquee player and currently no plans to invest in one. I know management is investing in other ventures but I am a football supporter not a supporter of a great long term investment for a businessman.
Our management could'nt see this obviously and wonder whether it's with the full support of our to comfotable coach. Let's face it football the world over their are clubs that perform much better with a new coach. Don't like leaving better players on the bench because of whatever reason. I heard many in the crowds over the last couple of years express that sentiment. The sort of people who make up the decrease in crowd support that is a reality.
Not negitive but IMO real problems that left to fester will see us struggling next season and without rectification will cause future seasons of heartache.
I want to see us win the toilet seat. I want us to win the CL.
dru
Well-Known Member
Does there need to be change? Yes
Is what you are advocating the sensible way to do it? No in my opinion.
Booting Lawrie and half the playing roster isn't the way to do things when the salary of the booted players still comes out of the salary cap. Let alone do we have the money to pay out the contracts anyway. we've let go the players that are coming off contract that aren't needed any more and will look to get in better quality to fix the problems.
As for Newcastle, they have finally done what we have done over the course of our time, bought players of known quality from Australia. As for the prize money I think you'll be surprised at just how much that would cost to compete in (even for the winners it would still be a loss making venture I think)
You say your a football supporter, but talk to Darlington fans and see what the prospect of having your club looking like not existing next season feels like. There is no magical pot of gold that the Mariners are sitting on, and if done right these other ventures will go a long way to funding the club for many years. I will take a few years of mediocrity over not existing at all.
Yet some of the most successful clubs have stability in there coaches so it can be argued both ways. At the end of the day it comes down to who else you can get to do the job and if they are better than what we currently have. If there is no one better for what we can afford then we just do a Sydney and replace McKinna with Kosmina or Arnold, hardly appealing.
I will go back to the Clark issue, when you can get a squad member as cover for pretty cheap you take it, since he can a fair chunk of his wage paid as a coach and not a player it makes sense in terms of the salary cap as cover.
Would love to see us win the premiership again, the CL is probably 10 years off for any Australian club. As for the toliet seat, make the 6 and your in with half a chance as has been shown by us making it to the final from the lower positions of qualifying.
Is what you are advocating the sensible way to do it? No in my opinion.
Booting Lawrie and half the playing roster isn't the way to do things when the salary of the booted players still comes out of the salary cap. Let alone do we have the money to pay out the contracts anyway. we've let go the players that are coming off contract that aren't needed any more and will look to get in better quality to fix the problems.
As for Newcastle, they have finally done what we have done over the course of our time, bought players of known quality from Australia. As for the prize money I think you'll be surprised at just how much that would cost to compete in (even for the winners it would still be a loss making venture I think)
You say your a football supporter, but talk to Darlington fans and see what the prospect of having your club looking like not existing next season feels like. There is no magical pot of gold that the Mariners are sitting on, and if done right these other ventures will go a long way to funding the club for many years. I will take a few years of mediocrity over not existing at all.
Yet some of the most successful clubs have stability in there coaches so it can be argued both ways. At the end of the day it comes down to who else you can get to do the job and if they are better than what we currently have. If there is no one better for what we can afford then we just do a Sydney and replace McKinna with Kosmina or Arnold, hardly appealing.
I will go back to the Clark issue, when you can get a squad member as cover for pretty cheap you take it, since he can a fair chunk of his wage paid as a coach and not a player it makes sense in terms of the salary cap as cover.
Would love to see us win the premiership again, the CL is probably 10 years off for any Australian club. As for the toliet seat, make the 6 and your in with half a chance as has been shown by us making it to the final from the lower positions of qualifying.
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