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Rowdy

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Why not do some research rather than just speculate or make up stuff about the land sale at Tuggerah?
and yet, in the next breath ... you speculate

and I think the cost of the land was around 8 million...

:rolleyes:

There's an old saying:
"Dont believe everything you read in the papers !"

You just posted a newspaper article, information given to the newspaper by whom ?
- Its basically a Club press release.

All the 'bad-smell' about the COE was due to what actually happened, not what the club said was going to happen.

Like the fact that the land was 'bought' by CCM Devolopments NOT CCM Football Club for starters, and the price they paid was practically turning it into a gift from Wyong Counci
- that was what got the whole 4 Corners Investigation up and running & they DONT go chasing Drunk Driving School Mums like A Current Affair does, for a reason :
- they're the premiere Investigative Journalism show in this country
 
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gull

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and yet, in the next breath ... you speculate



:rolleyes:

There's an old saying:
"Dont believe everything you read in the papers !"

You just posted a newspaper article, information given to the newspaper by whom ?
- Its basically a Club press release.

All the 'bad-smell' about the COE was due to what actually happened, not what the club said was going to happen.

Like the fact that the land was 'bought' by CCM Devolopments NOT CCM Football Club for starters, and the price they paid was practically turning it into a gift from Wyong Counci
- that was what got the whole 4 Corners Investigation up and running & they DONT go chasing Drunk Driving School Mums like A Current Affair does, for a reason :
- they're the premiere Investigative Journalism show in this country

Did you read the article? It was bought from Wyong RSL Club, not the council.

The sale had to be approved by the RSL Club members before it could go through (and yes I am one). This sale was above board and would not be the reason for the "investigation" that you mention.

Re my speculation yes I'm going from memory, but the exact figure for the land was very close to 8 mill give or take.

Do with the info what you will, but I'm confident it's more accurate than your take.
 

Big Al

Well-Known Member
Did you read the article? It was bought from Wyong RSL Club, not the council.

The sale had to be approved by the RSL Club members before it could go through (and yes I am one). This sale was above board and would not be the reason for the "investigation" that you mention.

Re my speculation yes I'm going from memory, but the exact figure for the land was very close to 8 mill give or take.

Do with the info what you will, but I'm confident it's more accurate than your take.
Would of been declared in the RSL financials if you could really be bothered.
 

pjennings

Well-Known Member
Mariners great defends Charlesworth as owner refutes talk of selling up


00:00 / 01:42



Central Coast Mariners owner Mike Charlesworth has dismissed “rubbish” claims that he has received a written offer of $8.5 million for the stricken A-League outfit.

UPDATEDUPDATED 8 MINS AGO
BY DAVE LEWIS
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The would-be buyers were an overseas-based consortium who made the approach last week, according to News Corp.

However, Charlesworth - who is feeling the heat from disgruntled fans after a horror first third of the season - scoffed at the claims.

“I get unsubstantiated offers all the time,” he said.

“The more serious ones want to relocate the club of course.”

The Englishman, who is in no immediate hurry to sell up, has just arrived back in the UK after spending Christmas in Australia, where he attended the home losses to Newcastle Jets and Perth Glory.

A group of fed-up fans unfurled a banner calling for him to go during the 4-1 New Year’s Eve defeat against Perth, whilst others booed him.

But Charlesworth has received the backing of the club’s former Championship and Premiership winner Patrick Zwaanswijk, who views him as more saviour than sinner.

“The owner stood up and saved the club when they were about to go under five years ago, and people should not forget that,” Zwaanswijk said.

“This is not just about him. Fans always say he’s not spending enough but it’s very hard to condemn him because he came in when the club was on its last legs and gave them a future.

“If he hadn’t the FFA would have been left in control and who knows what would’ve happened after that?”

Zwaanswijk, who spent three years as a player in Gosford and a season in charge of the youth Academy, claims what’s missing most is a definable “philosophy”, leaving the Mariners effectively rudderless since the departure of super coach Graham Arnold in 2014.

Friday’s 5-2 loss to Sydney FC was the ninth in 11 winless games this season, and another wooden spoon beckons.

“There seems to be a lack of communication and the lack of knowledge over how to run a professional (club),” he added.

“It’s a business and should be run as such by people who know everything there is to know. That’s where the Mariners are struggling a bit.

“When Graham Arnold was coach he had control over everything that was football related. He made all the decisions around the football side of things.

“They miss that sort of leadership as well as former CEO (and coach) Lawrie McKinna. It was a huge blow when he went to the Jets.

“He was very good at family and fan engagement, and selling the game to the people.”

While identifying a lack of philosophy, direction and structure from the top as key factors, Zwaanswijk, 43, said it was also about the coaches.

“In the end what you see on the field is always with the coaching staff,” he said.

“That’s how they want to play, who they recruit and the tactics they implement.

“I’ve played at big clubs (FC Utrecht and NAC Breda) and they had a philosophy.

“It should be the vision the club has that steers the coach, not the other way round.

“The easiest way is to say Mike Mulvey has to go but that’s not going to bring any solutions.

“We broke records in the past with a very good coach (Arnold) and a very good team. The coaches that come afterwards: Phil Moss, Tony Walmsley and Paul Okon haven’t really come so close.

“The club have also let a lot of talented players leave, most recently Lachlan Wales to Melbourne City, and those players have invariably done better wherever they’ve gone.

“I don’t understand why they have let so many players leave so easily.”

Zwaanswijk, now in charge of NSW NPL side Hills United, sued the Mariners when his two-year contract with the Academy was curtailed.

The matter was settled out of court and he insists there are no grudges and that he still goes to home games and wants to aid the club in any way he can.

“I was there in the pre-season and spoke to (coach) Mike Mulvey and I am more than happy to help out in someway at some point,” the Dutchman said.

“It’s just sad to see the club promising so much but not delivering over the past four years.

“People say it’s about money and that they don’t spend enough.

“But I don’t see it like that necessarily. Yes, they may not have the budget of a Sydney FC or Melbourne Victory in terms of bringing in marquee players.

“But when we won the Championship in 2013 we still had $600,000 left to spend (from the grants provided by FFA).

“What I see on the field is a team that wants to entertain but don’t seem to know how to win games anymore.

“They are all good individual players but it just doesn’t seem to gel between them.

“They want to entertain, they have plenty of possession but they aren’t creating enough chances.

“They need to put a better structure in place on and off the field.

“Maybe in four or five (years) you’ll have promotion and relegation.

“And if the Mariners don’t change in the meantime they could then be in real trouble.”

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/mar...rlesworth-as-owner-refutes-talk-of-selling-up
 

Coastalraider

Well-Known Member
Mariners great defends Charlesworth as owner refutes talk of selling up


00:00 / 01:42



Central Coast Mariners owner Mike Charlesworth has dismissed “rubbish” claims that he has received a written offer of $8.5 million for the stricken A-League outfit.

UPDATEDUPDATED 8 MINS AGO
BY DAVE LEWIS
Share

The would-be buyers were an overseas-based consortium who made the approach last week, according to News Corp.

However, Charlesworth - who is feeling the heat from disgruntled fans after a horror first third of the season - scoffed at the claims.

“I get unsubstantiated offers all the time,” he said.

“The more serious ones want to relocate the club of course.”

The Englishman, who is in no immediate hurry to sell up, has just arrived back in the UK after spending Christmas in Australia, where he attended the home losses to Newcastle Jets and Perth Glory.

A group of fed-up fans unfurled a banner calling for him to go during the 4-1 New Year’s Eve defeat against Perth, whilst others booed him.

But Charlesworth has received the backing of the club’s former Championship and Premiership winner Patrick Zwaanswijk, who views him as more saviour than sinner.

“The owner stood up and saved the club when they were about to go under five years ago, and people should not forget that,” Zwaanswijk said.

“This is not just about him. Fans always say he’s not spending enough but it’s very hard to condemn him because he came in when the club was on its last legs and gave them a future.

“If he hadn’t the FFA would have been left in control and who knows what would’ve happened after that?”

Zwaanswijk, who spent three years as a player in Gosford and a season in charge of the youth Academy, claims what’s missing most is a definable “philosophy”, leaving the Mariners effectively rudderless since the departure of super coach Graham Arnold in 2014.

Friday’s 5-2 loss to Sydney FC was the ninth in 11 winless games this season, and another wooden spoon beckons.

“There seems to be a lack of communication and the lack of knowledge over how to run a professional (club),” he added.

“It’s a business and should be run as such by people who know everything there is to know. That’s where the Mariners are struggling a bit.

“When Graham Arnold was coach he had control over everything that was football related. He made all the decisions around the football side of things.

“They miss that sort of leadership as well as former CEO (and coach) Lawrie McKinna. It was a huge blow when he went to the Jets.

“He was very good at family and fan engagement, and selling the game to the people.”

While identifying a lack of philosophy, direction and structure from the top as key factors, Zwaanswijk, 43, said it was also about the coaches.

“In the end what you see on the field is always with the coaching staff,” he said.

“That’s how they want to play, who they recruit and the tactics they implement.

“I’ve played at big clubs (FC Utrecht and NAC Breda) and they had a philosophy.

“It should be the vision the club has that steers the coach, not the other way round.

“The easiest way is to say Mike Mulvey has to go but that’s not going to bring any solutions.

“We broke records in the past with a very good coach (Arnold) and a very good team. The coaches that come afterwards: Phil Moss, Tony Walmsley and Paul Okon haven’t really come so close.

“The club have also let a lot of talented players leave, most recently Lachlan Wales to Melbourne City, and those players have invariably done better wherever they’ve gone.

“I don’t understand why they have let so many players leave so easily.”

Zwaanswijk, now in charge of NSW NPL side Hills United, sued the Mariners when his two-year contract with the Academy was curtailed.

The matter was settled out of court and he insists there are no grudges and that he still goes to home games and wants to aid the club in any way he can.

“I was there in the pre-season and spoke to (coach) Mike Mulvey and I am more than happy to help out in someway at some point,” the Dutchman said.

“It’s just sad to see the club promising so much but not delivering over the past four years.

“People say it’s about money and that they don’t spend enough.

“But I don’t see it like that necessarily. Yes, they may not have the budget of a Sydney FC or Melbourne Victory in terms of bringing in marquee players.

“But when we won the Championship in 2013 we still had $600,000 left to spend (from the grants provided by FFA).

“What I see on the field is a team that wants to entertain but don’t seem to know how to win games anymore.

“They are all good individual players but it just doesn’t seem to gel between them.

“They want to entertain, they have plenty of possession but they aren’t creating enough chances.

“They need to put a better structure in place on and off the field.

“Maybe in four or five (years) you’ll have promotion and relegation.

“And if the Mariners don’t change in the meantime they could then be in real trouble.”

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/mar...rlesworth-as-owner-refutes-talk-of-selling-up

I couldn’t think of a better time in our history than now to bring a Zwanny in as a defensive consultant.

Work on structure with Mulvey, and act as an adviser to our defensive players.
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
I couldn’t think of a better time in our history than now to bring a Zwanny in as a defensive consultant.

Work on structure with Mulvey, and act as an adviser to our defensive players.

I assume you didnt see his NYL side? They were a shambles. He skipped training once to do TV work and was eventually sacked.
 

Coastalraider

Well-Known Member
I assume you didnt see his NYL side? They were a shambles. He skipped training once to do TV work and was eventually sacked.
I didn’t see his NYL team, but I also didn’t say we should hire him as a coach. He would be a good consultant I think - our defence are struggling with process and confidence. Do you not think he would have something to add?
 

BaysideMariner

Well-Known Member
The following is a letter from Mike Charlesworth to Mariners Members.

Dear Members,

On behalf of the Central Coast Mariners, I would like to provide our valued Members with some key updates on recent topics regarding the club.

The Central Coast Mariners would also like to take this opportunity to thank the dedicated fans and Members who have been exceptional in their relentless support of the team and club. Seeing a great travelling crowd at Kogarah was inspirational to everyone at the club.

Firstly, we want to recognise that this season’s on-field performance is of absolute priority to the club. Everyone at the Central Coast Mariners is dedicated to fixing not only this season but the long term on-field results that we have been experiencing.

The club is now several months into a complete review of the football operations and structures, some outcomes were immediately implemented with the intention to not only turn around the on-field results but also address the long term recruiting and developmental outcomes of the football club. The review was led by newly appointed Sporting Director Mike Phelan that highlighted that there are no easy fixes and it would take a dedicated plan to see through the long-term strategy.

Whilst Mike Phelan’s unexpected & temporary appointment at his former club Manchester United occurred in December, he is still very much in the lead role of Sporting Director for us and remains in daily communication with the club. Phelan is in daily dialogue with Head Coach Mike Mulvey on all football matters and we anticipate that he will be back in the country at the first opportunity he has available to him.

It is a priority for us that FFA and Central Coast Council meet to discuss and ensure there is a long-term commitment and viability to playing games at Central Coast stadium. We have received and are expecting more enquiries about alternative options to see the club play games away from Central Coast Stadium, however a long-term stadia strategy and commitment to the Central Coast must remain core priorities and principle of the club.
The Central Coast Mariners would like to reaffirm the changes that the club has already implemented over the last several months:
  • The implementation of a new role of Sporting Director to oversee all football operations
  • Increased financial spend on the playing roster which has seen us spend to the salary cap
  • A dedicated focus on club relations to improve recruitment opportunities led by Mike Phelan: started with the loan of Aiden O’Neill from Burnley
  • The addition of seven new coaching and football staff members including full time coaches appointed in the Academy
  • An organisational restructure to clearly define football roles and responsibilities
  • Improved stakeholder relations to allow for greater access to quality training facilities on the Central Coast
  • A complete overhaul of the Academy structure including department heads and a new Junior Reps program
  • A significant growth in commercial partners and sponsors including new major partners and kit sponsors
However, as a result of immediate pressures, the club is looking to accelerate key aspects of this review not yet implemented with the expectation of presenting to Football Federation Australia by the end of January. The FFA will receive an update on the club’s long-term strategy [both on and off the pitch] and key outcomes will be made public following this. We are also working hard to take advantage of opportunities that will arise in January which align with the long-term plans for the club.

Moving forward, there are more changes to be implemented with the best interests of the football club in mind, and the sooner these changes can happen the quicker the outcomes will become clear for our Members to see. The long-term plans include the following action items that still need to be implemented:
  • Increased capacity to spend on the first team playing roster
  • Increased capacity to spend on football operational staff and equipment
  • Increased resources and capacity in recruitment practices and overseas networks
  • The implementation of a structured working board with a clear focus to attract new investment to the club
  • The appointment of new board members, adding expertise and driving new investment to the club
  • Continued discussions with Central Coast Council in regards to Stadium Management rights
  • Continued progress with FFA for future W-League team
  • Increased training fields and facilities for the Academy to keep up with the significant growth including full size and small sided synthetic pitches
  • Create new revenue streams to support the long-term growth and financial capacity of the club
We acknowledge that the last five years have been extremely testing as we continue to work towards a more sustainable and successful club. We are a proud club and take great pride in representing our home of the Central Coast being the only national sporting team here to represent the region.

However, we cannot do this alone and look forward to working with FFA, Central Coast Council and all stakeholders connected to the club in delivering on the opportunities we have to return the pride and faith that has been shown in us.
CEO Shaun Mielekamp travelled with the supporters to the Sydney FC match on Friday night and encourages members to meet and speak with him to discuss the club’s current situation, this also gave members a chance to express their concerns. This offer is open to all members and fans as Shaun will be attending the Foxtel Y-League match at Tuggerah on Saturday the 12th of January for anyone who wanted to speak directly to him.

We do however, ask for those Members who are providing feedback to any club officials to please keep it constructive and above the belt.

Please know that our greatest success as a club is ahead of us, not because of the results we will achieve but because of the Mariners determination and culture for refusing to ever give up.

Mike Charlesworth
Chairman
Central Coast Mariners FC
 

JoyfulPenguin

Well-Known Member
The following is a letter from Mike Charlesworth to Mariners Members.

Dear Members,

On behalf of the Central Coast Mariners, I would like to provide our valued Members with some key updates on recent topics regarding the club.

The Central Coast Mariners would also like to take this opportunity to thank the dedicated fans and Members who have been exceptional in their relentless support of the team and club. Seeing a great travelling crowd at Kogarah was inspirational to everyone at the club.

Firstly, we want to recognise that this season’s on-field performance is of absolute priority to the club. Everyone at the Central Coast Mariners is dedicated to fixing not only this season but the long term on-field results that we have been experiencing.

The club is now several months into a complete review of the football operations and structures, some outcomes were immediately implemented with the intention to not only turn around the on-field results but also address the long term recruiting and developmental outcomes of the football club. The review was led by newly appointed Sporting Director Mike Phelan that highlighted that there are no easy fixes and it would take a dedicated plan to see through the long-term strategy.

Whilst Mike Phelan’s unexpected & temporary appointment at his former club Manchester United occurred in December, he is still very much in the lead role of Sporting Director for us and remains in daily communication with the club. Phelan is in daily dialogue with Head Coach Mike Mulvey on all football matters and we anticipate that he will be back in the country at the first opportunity he has available to him.

It is a priority for us that FFA and Central Coast Council meet to discuss and ensure there is a long-term commitment and viability to playing games at Central Coast stadium. We have received and are expecting more enquiries about alternative options to see the club play games away from Central Coast Stadium, however a long-term stadia strategy and commitment to the Central Coast must remain core priorities and principle of the club.
The Central Coast Mariners would like to reaffirm the changes that the club has already implemented over the last several months:
  • The implementation of a new role of Sporting Director to oversee all football operations
  • Increased financial spend on the playing roster which has seen us spend to the salary cap
  • A dedicated focus on club relations to improve recruitment opportunities led by Mike Phelan: started with the loan of Aiden O’Neill from Burnley
  • The addition of seven new coaching and football staff members including full time coaches appointed in the Academy
  • An organisational restructure to clearly define football roles and responsibilities
  • Improved stakeholder relations to allow for greater access to quality training facilities on the Central Coast
  • A complete overhaul of the Academy structure including department heads and a new Junior Reps program
  • A significant growth in commercial partners and sponsors including new major partners and kit sponsors
However, as a result of immediate pressures, the club is looking to accelerate key aspects of this review not yet implemented with the expectation of presenting to Football Federation Australia by the end of January. The FFA will receive an update on the club’s long-term strategy [both on and off the pitch] and key outcomes will be made public following this. We are also working hard to take advantage of opportunities that will arise in January which align with the long-term plans for the club.

Moving forward, there are more changes to be implemented with the best interests of the football club in mind, and the sooner these changes can happen the quicker the outcomes will become clear for our Members to see. The long-term plans include the following action items that still need to be implemented:
  • Increased capacity to spend on the first team playing roster
  • Increased capacity to spend on football operational staff and equipment
  • Increased resources and capacity in recruitment practices and overseas networks
  • The implementation of a structured working board with a clear focus to attract new investment to the club
  • The appointment of new board members, adding expertise and driving new investment to the club
  • Continued discussions with Central Coast Council in regards to Stadium Management rights
  • Continued progress with FFA for future W-League team
  • Increased training fields and facilities for the Academy to keep up with the significant growth including full size and small sided synthetic pitches
  • Create new revenue streams to support the long-term growth and financial capacity of the club
We acknowledge that the last five years have been extremely testing as we continue to work towards a more sustainable and successful club. We are a proud club and take great pride in representing our home of the Central Coast being the only national sporting team here to represent the region.

However, we cannot do this alone and look forward to working with FFA, Central Coast Council and all stakeholders connected to the club in delivering on the opportunities we have to return the pride and faith that has been shown in us.
CEO Shaun Mielekamp travelled with the supporters to the Sydney FC match on Friday night and encourages members to meet and speak with him to discuss the club’s current situation, this also gave members a chance to express their concerns. This offer is open to all members and fans as Shaun will be attending the Foxtel Y-League match at Tuggerah on Saturday the 12th of January for anyone who wanted to speak directly to him.

We do however, ask for those Members who are providing feedback to any club officials to please keep it constructive and above the belt.

Please know that our greatest success as a club is ahead of us, not because of the results we will achieve but because of the Mariners determination and culture for refusing to ever give up.

Mike Charlesworth
Chairman
Central Coast Mariners FC
Just the same thing that has been said over and over again. Enough promises, it's time to actually make progress.
 

Ancient Mariner

Well-Known Member
Hmmm.

Letter from the owner to the fans.
Letter from patrick supporting the owner.
MM goes to the travelling fans after the game.
Shaun on the bus.

If nothing else, I think the Club has finally and correctly realised that we are totally, and right royally, pissed orff.

Words are all very well let's see some action and results.
 

Big Al

Well-Known Member
The following is a letter from Mike Charlesworth to Mariners Members.

Dear Members,

On behalf of the Central Coast Mariners, I would like to provide our valued Members with some key updates on recent topics regarding the club.

The Central Coast Mariners would also like to take this opportunity to thank the dedicated fans and Members who have been exceptional in their relentless support of the team and club. Seeing a great travelling crowd at Kogarah was inspirational to everyone at the club.

Firstly, we want to recognise that this season’s on-field performance is of absolute priority to the club. Everyone at the Central Coast Mariners is dedicated to fixing not only this season but the long term on-field results that we have been experiencing.

The club is now several months into a complete review of the football operations and structures, some outcomes were immediately implemented with the intention to not only turn around the on-field results but also address the long term recruiting and developmental outcomes of the football club. The review was led by newly appointed Sporting Director Mike Phelan that highlighted that there are no easy fixes and it would take a dedicated plan to see through the long-term strategy.

Whilst Mike Phelan’s unexpected & temporary appointment at his former club Manchester United occurred in December, he is still very much in the lead role of Sporting Director for us and remains in daily communication with the club. Phelan is in daily dialogue with Head Coach Mike Mulvey on all football matters and we anticipate that he will be back in the country at the first opportunity he has available to him.

It is a priority for us that FFA and Central Coast Council meet to discuss and ensure there is a long-term commitment and viability to playing games at Central Coast stadium. We have received and are expecting more enquiries about alternative options to see the club play games away from Central Coast Stadium, however a long-term stadia strategy and commitment to the Central Coast must remain core priorities and principle of the club.
The Central Coast Mariners would like to reaffirm the changes that the club has already implemented over the last several months:
  • The implementation of a new role of Sporting Director to oversee all football operations
  • Increased financial spend on the playing roster which has seen us spend to the salary cap
  • A dedicated focus on club relations to improve recruitment opportunities led by Mike Phelan: started with the loan of Aiden O’Neill from Burnley
  • The addition of seven new coaching and football staff members including full time coaches appointed in the Academy
  • An organisational restructure to clearly define football roles and responsibilities
  • Improved stakeholder relations to allow for greater access to quality training facilities on the Central Coast
  • A complete overhaul of the Academy structure including department heads and a new Junior Reps program
  • A significant growth in commercial partners and sponsors including new major partners and kit sponsors
However, as a result of immediate pressures, the club is looking to accelerate key aspects of this review not yet implemented with the expectation of presenting to Football Federation Australia by the end of January. The FFA will receive an update on the club’s long-term strategy [both on and off the pitch] and key outcomes will be made public following this. We are also working hard to take advantage of opportunities that will arise in January which align with the long-term plans for the club.

Moving forward, there are more changes to be implemented with the best interests of the football club in mind, and the sooner these changes can happen the quicker the outcomes will become clear for our Members to see. The long-term plans include the following action items that still need to be implemented:
  • Increased capacity to spend on the first team playing roster
  • Increased capacity to spend on football operational staff and equipment
  • Increased resources and capacity in recruitment practices and overseas networks
  • The implementation of a structured working board with a clear focus to attract new investment to the club
  • The appointment of new board members, adding expertise and driving new investment to the club
  • Continued discussions with Central Coast Council in regards to Stadium Management rights
  • Continued progress with FFA for future W-League team
  • Increased training fields and facilities for the Academy to keep up with the significant growth including full size and small sided synthetic pitches
  • Create new revenue streams to support the long-term growth and financial capacity of the club
We acknowledge that the last five years have been extremely testing as we continue to work towards a more sustainable and successful club. We are a proud club and take great pride in representing our home of the Central Coast being the only national sporting team here to represent the region.

However, we cannot do this alone and look forward to working with FFA, Central Coast Council and all stakeholders connected to the club in delivering on the opportunities we have to return the pride and faith that has been shown in us.
CEO Shaun Mielekamp travelled with the supporters to the Sydney FC match on Friday night and encourages members to meet and speak with him to discuss the club’s current situation, this also gave members a chance to express their concerns. This offer is open to all members and fans as Shaun will be attending the Foxtel Y-League match at Tuggerah on Saturday the 12th of January for anyone who wanted to speak directly to him.

We do however, ask for those Members who are providing feedback to any club officials to please keep it constructive and above the belt.

Please know that our greatest success as a club is ahead of us, not because of the results we will achieve but because of the Mariners determination and culture for refusing to ever give up.

Mike Charlesworth
Chairman
Central Coast Mariners FC
Worst part for me is synthetic pitches. We play a game played on grass. So put in grass. The bounce and the run of the ball are completely different. I think they should only be for recreation leagues
 

scottmac

Suspended
Just more threats to move games unless C Coast council give in to him.

Move on
Seems like more. Nearly sounds as if the FFA have questioned our licence and our metrics ala phoenix and they are getting in front of the story. The line about presenting to the FFA seemed a bit weird. Why do they need to present anything
 
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