Captain

[kevrenor]

A captain must:

Be on the same wavelength as the coaches
Be gentle like your mother when needed
Be mentally tough right through 90++ mins
Be brutally frank when needed
Not have a big ego

I'm not going to second guess Lawrie, but Wilko is mentally struggling to play well for 90 mins for some reason and it needs sorting.

He seems to drop into the Easter Island statue funk he got into at Manly for a while

 

[Kareem]

1) Muscat isnt as loved by all Melbourne fans as people think. I was reading some things like he should retire + quit playing long ball etc.
2) However I still agree he is probably the best captain

 

[Bex]

If nothing else, this thread appears to have identified that is currently slim pickings for an alternative captain. A bit of succession planning needed from management me thinks.

Is Hutcho our only realistic option at the moment? I'm not sure whether he is captain material. I'm interested to hear other people's thoughts on that.

 

[dru]

I think we are all missing the obvious choice here. Danny!

He will strike fear into referees when he questions their decisions?  ;D

 

[Blair]

Watch Wilko when things are not going to plan.His head goes down,he shakes his head and wanders around looking at his feet when he should be revving them up.I first noticed it last year during that run of bad results while Danny was out.At one point in the 5-2 defeat to the tards I noticed Aloi$i telling him to lift his head.Aloi$i was the real captain last season and at the moment Bozza's doing it.

Wilkos form has nothing to do with it....good or bad form the captain has to stand up and rev them up when things are not going well.

We need a real c**t in our team...a real tosser that the rest of Australia hates.

Some one like Musc**t.

yeah mate, even if you are being hammered 10-0, the captain has to act like its still nil all to rally the troops.
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I thought i was sticking up for him saying while Wilko isn't a great captian therer's no one else. if he talked on the field and not look at his feet then mabye then he will be a great captian. but i don't think he needs the arm band taken off hes our only captian at all.
I was only goig through the team and giving my thoughts.

 

[Blair]

Watch Wilko when things are not going to plan.His head goes down,he shakes his head and wanders around looking at his feet when he should be revving them up.I first noticed it last year during that run of bad results while Danny was out.At one point in the 5-2 defeat to the tards I noticed Aloi$i telling him to lift his head.Aloi$i was the real captain last season and at the moment Bozza's doing it.

Wilkos form has nothing to do with it....good or bad form the captain has to stand up and rev them up when things are not going well.

We need a real c**t in our team...a real tosser that the rest of Australia hates.

Some one like Musc**t.

I thought i was sticking up for him saying while Wilko isn't a great captian therer's no one else. if he talked on the field and not look at his feet then mabye then he will be a great captian. but i don't think he needs the arm band taken off hes our only captian at all.
I was only goig through the team and giving my thoughts.

 

[Guns of Melbourne]

1) Musc**t isnt as loved by all Melbourne fans as people think. I was reading some things like he should retire + quit playing long ball etc.
2) However I still agree he is probably the best captain

People have the opinion (rightly or wrongly, I can't really say) that Kevin Muscat exerts too much influence over the club and manager. Pretty much every player that Musky has had a problem with over the past 4 seasons has had their contracts terminated/not renewed, and was compounded in the Jest Vs. Victory season 2 (4:0 loss to us) where he substituted himself.

 

[T]

Unfortunatly I think Wilko needs a break from the Captaincy. He hasn't been quite the same since his injury. Maybe time to give someone else a go. But not Hutch... he spends to much time on the ground, or sticking his ass out.

 

[Paolo]

1) Musc**t isnt as loved by all Melbourne fans as people think. I was reading some things like he should retire + quit playing long ball etc.
2) However I still agree he is probably the best captain

People have the opinion (rightly or wrongly, I can't really say) that Kevin Musc**t exerts too much influence over the club and manager. Pretty much every player that Musky has had a problem with over the past 4 seasons has had their contracts terminated/not renewed, and was compounded in the Jest Vs. Victory season 2 (4:0 loss to us) where he substituted himself.

being a part of the coaching staff would have a lot to do with that

 

[Guns of Melbourne]

1) Musc**t isnt as loved by all Melbourne fans as people think. I was reading some things like he should retire + quit playing long ball etc.
2) However I still agree he is probably the best captain

People have the opinion (rightly or wrongly, I can't really say) that Kevin Musc**t exerts too much influence over the club and manager. Pretty much every player that Musky has had a problem with over the past 4 seasons has had their contracts terminated/not renewed, and was compounded in the Jest Vs. Victory season 2 (4:0 loss to us) where he substituted himself.

being a part of the coaching staff would have a lot to do with that

Most of these issues arose before he became an assistant coach.

 

[Ursus]

Stupid question.

Also very destabilising and not wanted here. Are you a troll?

You spell like one.

Not wanted here??
37 people have voted..

It is a very depressing reflection on how low this forum has sunk.

I am also amazed at the number here who cannot spell captain. Very sad. 

Yes, how dare we show concern for our team and discuss it in a constructive manner, what _were_ we thinking??

Oh what cutting sarcasm.

I am surprised you find this thread constructive and not negative and destabilising, but maybe you missed the original poll question (but then again maybe not).

It is interesting that the wording of the question has been changed since my comment.

I now find the idea of someone being dropped to the bench but retaining the captaincy a facinating option.
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[FFC Mariner]

This entire thread presupposes that a captain can singlehandedly lift the side and make it perform miracles.

The responsibility for going out and performing at 100% lies with the individual not an onfield leader.

Natural leaders will inspire those around them but to think there is some "guru" in our squad who will make the players play for the entire game is sadly not valid.

However, this thread is not negative or destabilising, paying customers have a right to their view. Whether other people agree with it or not is neither here nor there

 

[Jesus]

If nothing else, this thread appears to have identified that is currently slim pickings for an alternative captain. A bit of succession planning needed from management me thinks.

Is Hutcho our only realistic option at the moment? I'm not sure whether he is captain material. I'm interested to hear other people's thoughts on that.

Hutcho absolutely hates the scum. If that aint captain material, i dont know what is!

 

[Jesus]

1) Musc**t isnt as loved by all Melbourne fans as people think. I was reading some things like he should retire + quit playing long ball etc.
2) However I still agree he is probably the best captain

Moore aint too bad

 

[serious14]

Stupid question.

Also very destabilising and not wanted here. Are you a troll?

You spell like one.

Not wanted here??
37 people have voted..

It is a very depressing reflection on how low this forum has sunk.

I am also amazed at the number here who cannot spell captain. Very sad. 

Yes, how dare we show concern for our team and discuss it in a constructive manner, what _were_ we thinking??

Oh what cutting sarcasm.

I am surprised you find this thread constructive and not negative and destabilising, but maybe you missed the original poll question (but then again maybe not).

It is interesting that the wording of the question has been changed since my comment.

I now find the idea of someone being dropped to the bench but retaining the captaincy a facinating option.
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Righto then oh-wise-leader-of-men, how do you propose we fix the current woes of the team??  Stay with the out of form captain, the stupidly inflexible 4-4-2 that is seeing us horridly exposed in defence as well as having to rely on long balls to form anything resembling an attack, and the famous "never before the 75th minute" substitutions??

F*ck me, the sycophantic nature of some fans of this team sickens me...... "zomg, we can't say a bad word about Lawrie 'cause he's a great bloke and I go for the Mariners so don't pick on them".  Honestly, are we expected to just sit here and accept the shit-fest that is our football being served up to us week after week without dissection and discussion??

"Oh oh oh, but if that late goal against Melbourne hadn't gone in no-one would be talkng like this".  What's the point of engaging in hypotheticals??  The thing is, the goal _did_ go in primarily because of the despicable decision by Wilko to fake an injury and then realise it was a horrid mistake, not to mention our infamous ability to never hold on to a lead when we're playing ten men...... I'm interested in discussing what _HAS_ happened, not what might have happened had we won on the weekend.  Because at the moment, I can only see us beating Perth and Wellington (and we couldn't even do that), and possibly QLD on a bad day for them.

P.S.  Hutchinson as captain??  Come on, he spends more time on the ground then actually playing.....

 

[Ted]

If Wilko was to relinquish the captaincy Id love to see Clarky give it a crack!

 

[Bear]

If Wilko was to relinquish the captaincy I’d love to see Clarky give it a crack!

+1

If not for his age, im sure it would be an option

 

[BAD BULLZ]

Clarky would be great but whenever we have a loss and he plays people are usually calling for his head cause he's to old too slow half the reason he's not in the starting line up as it is.
I think the only REAL options are:
Wilko....out of form
hutch.... same goes
heff ......injured
clarky....isnt classed as a starter butt would be great as captin
sash....would be strange but hes healthy n still got form
jedi...leads by exsample but lacks the communication
Danny....loose can but will keep things interesting

 

[kevrenor]

Stay with the out of form captain, the stupidly inflexible 4-4-2 that is seeing us horridly exposed in defence as well as having to rely on long balls to form anything resembling an attack, and the famous "never before the 75th minute" substitutions??

F*ck me, the sycophantic nature of some fans of this team sickens me...... "zomg, we can't say a bad word about Lawrie 'cause he's a great bloke and I go for the Mariners so don't pick on them".  Honestly, are we expected to just sit here and accept the shit-fest that is our football being served up to us week after week without dissection and discussion??

Good issues to be raised and debated as far as I can see.

I don't know about 'shit-fest' as I think we are playing better than at the end of last season, and certainly last Saturday we played very well. That doesn't mean we haven't got weaknesses - we certainly do, like conceding late goals, and struggling with holding smart counter attacking teams.

 

[Paolo]

Clarky would be great but whenever we have a loss and he plays people are usually calling for his head cause he's to old too slow half the reason he's not in the starting line up as it is.

LOL, Clarky is one of our fastest players and definately one of the fittest