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A-League Expansion

Morgan30

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a darwin team in summer? climate issues much? I'm interested to see how townsville survives in summer with the weather.

Hobart and Canberra have always been the 2 sides ive wanted to see.

Hobart has many advantages if we get there first. Only cricket as an opponent and get there before the AFL come roaring in. However would be at least 2 seasons before they would have their shit together i suspect.
 

Jesus

Jesus
Morgan30 said:
a darwin team in summer? climate issues much? I'm interested to see how townsville survives in summer with the weather.

Hobart and Canberra have always been the 2 sides ive wanted to see.

Hobart has many advantages if we get there first. Only cricket as an opponent and get there before the AFL come roaring in. However would be at least 2 seasons before they would have their shit together i suspect.

AFL will never roar in it seems. They are happy to play a handful of games there.
 

Morgan30

Well-Known Member
true but with the debate going on over the wetern sydney team, a lot of people in the game threw support behind tassie instead, maybe a long term thought for the AFL or an  option if a team is about to go extinct
 

Ursus

Well-Known Member
midfielder said:
Our inclusion is one of chance, first it was the start of Hal and there were not that many bids, second the coast wanted a team after the failed Northern Eagles team and the likelihood at the time that another RL team would not move to the coast meant  everyone got behind it.

You seem to forget that there was a manager (with a couple of senior ex players) and a core group of players who trusted their manager's handshake. Plus some local business people who shared the vision and put up their money in a well planned audacious bid.

Chance?


Bullshit.
 

kevrenor

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Ursus said:
midfielder said:
Our inclusion is one of chance, first it was the start of Hal and there were not that many bids, second the coast wanted a team after the failed Northern Eagles team and the likelihood at the time that another RL team would not move to the coast meant  everyone got behind it.

You seem to forget that there was a manager (with a couple of senior ex players) and a core group of players who trusted their manager's handshake. Plus some local business people who shared the vision and put up their money in a well planned audacious bid.

Chance?

Bullshit.
:goodpost: :postcount:
 

tuftman

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Eternal Optimist said:
marinermick said:
Eternal Optimist said:
Can any one tell me if a second team from Vic is a shoe in?

melb heart will come in next season

It will be interesting to see if they come in with a maroon and white strip.

I read somewhere that the "Heart" was going to be dropped, dunno what for though
 

Jesus

Jesus
tuftman said:
Eternal Optimist said:
marinermick said:
Eternal Optimist said:
Can any one tell me if a second team from Vic is a shoe in?

Heart is apparently only a working title and they are wading through names, including city.

melb heart will come in next season

It will be interesting to see if they come in with a maroon and white strip.

I read somewhere that the "Heart" was going to be dropped, dunno what for though
 

Honkee

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Despite the joke of a name, a second Victorian/Melbourne team would be handy; Victorians have live sports appreciation in their DNA. Id even go so far to say a 2nd Victorian team should go in ahead of a western Sydney team.
 

Jesus

Jesus
Honkee said:
Despite the joke of a name, a second Victorian/Melbourne team would be handy; Victorians have live sports appreciation in their DNA. Id even go so far to say a 2nd Victorian team should go in ahead of a western Sydney team.

Big leap that, considering a 2nd tard team is guaranteed newxt year, and a westies team in not yet a shoe in :p
 

Tassiemariner

Well-Known Member
http://www.tasmaniaunited.com.au/news/post/feasibility-study-released/

Just an update on Tasmania's push for an A-league team.
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
I had a look at the feasibility study. Laughable. They're talking about putting the pitch in the corner of both Bellerive and York Park, and sharing games between the two. Have they ever heard of the Collingwood Warriors?
 

Tassiemariner

Well-Known Member
Yeah i mean the reality is that Tasmania will not be getting the 12th license, the 13th/14th license i more realistic
We have no real stadium (although if the hill at bellerive was open and didn't have to be seated, it would be awesome.)
No real money unless this mysterious shiekh comes in the save us
Central Coast-esque figures for support/membership/crowds.

Oh well no hope in trying.
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
Who would have tho pre Hal this was possible


http://www.theworldgame.com.au/a-league/battle-intensifies-for-12th-a-league-spot-211607

Battle intensifies for 12th A-League spot

In what has been one of the most vigorously contested expansion processes in the history of Australian professional sport, Football Federation Australia is due to grant the 12th licence for a new A-League team in the next fortnight.

The introduction of Gold Coast United and North Queensland Fury for version five of the competition has created a huge buzz among the football community while a second Melbourne franchise has already been handed a provisional 11th licence for the 2010/11 season.

In deciding which consortium will score the latest licence up for grabs, the governing body has number of issues to consider.

Such as:

:: whether they will seek to establish a foothold in Western Sydney before the cashed-up AFL and ARU establish teams in the region

:: the possibility that Wellington Phoenix will not be part of the A-League after season 2009/10

:: whether Canberra, the South Coast and Tasmania have the capacity in terms of support and commercial strength to support a national franchise in the long-term.

TWG understands that the FFA set Friday 24 July as the deadline for all bidders to submit their bid documents.

Here is an overview of the bidders, which include three from Western Sydney and one each from Canberra, the South Coast of NSW and Tasmania.

Canberra Bid

Backed by ACT Government and developed by local businessman Ivan Slavich.

Home ground: Canberra Stadium

Team name: Believed to be Canberra United like existing W-League team

Focus point: Strong relationship with Football Canberra and ACT Government with a heavy focus on football within the ACT community.

Strengths: Strong football region, home of AIS and excellent stadium.

Drawbacks: Inability to attract and retain players, coaches and executives to the ACT, poor commercial strength and the failure of three previous national football clubs and struggling NRL and Super 14 teams.

South Coast Bid

Backed by local South Coast community and developed by local businessman Eddy De Gabriele.

Home ground: WIN Stadium and ANZ Stadium

Team name: Working title South Coast Football, to be decided by the public

Focus point: A focus on South Coast community including a radical plan to include Western Sydney within its territory.

Strengths: Strong football region with no dedicated South Coast only football team in any code.

Drawbacks: Inability to attract and retain players, coaches and executives to the South Coast. Poor state of WIN Stadium and smallish population base of 900,000 in its catchment area.

Tasmanian Bid

Backed by Tasmanian Government and Football Tasmania and developed by local businessman John McGirr

Home ground: Unknown. Currently no quality football specific stadiums in Tasmania

Team name: Tasmania United FC

Focus point: First Tasmanian-based professional football team in Australia.

Strengths: Energetic bid to host a national professional football team.

Drawbacks: Inability to attract and retain players, coaches and executives to Tasmania. Questionable support for football and relatively small population, of 500,000, and limited commercial strength.

Western Sydney Bid

Backed by Socceroos captain Lucas Neill as founder and developed by his Australian-based agent Paddy Dominguez

Home ground: Parramatta Stadium

Team name: Believed to be developed but not yet released to public

Focus point: Strong business case with a focus on history of football in Sydneys Greater West and embracement of the 14 regional councils making up the geographical region. Strong focus on accessibility and affordability for fans.

Strengths: Strong football region with a population of 1.8 million people. Sydneys ability to attract and retain players, coaches and executive, commercial strength of Sydney and focussed on relationship with football community. Stadium regarded as best football surface in Australia by Socceroos coach Pim Verbeek.

Drawbacks: Parramatta Stadium capacity is only 22,000 and will need to consider alternative larger venue for certain 'marquee' matches.

Western Sydney Bid

Backed by colourful 1970s Sydney identity Joe Meissner and developed by ex-Marconi Stallions coach, Berti Mariani

Home ground: ANZ Stadium and Penrith Stadium

Team name: Greater Sydney FC

Focus point: Relationship with football in Sydneys Greater West, especially with Penrith Nepean District United (NSW Premier League), Blacktown City Demons Soccer Club and Penrith Panthers Leagues Club (NRL).

Strengths: Strong football region with a population of 1.8 million people. World-class stadium with a capacity of over 80,000. Sydneys ability to attract and retain players, coaches and executive, commercial strength of Sydney and focussed on relationship with football community.

Drawbacks: Use of ANZ Stadium, which is not well considered by Western Sydney football fans and association with Penrith Panthers NRL club could alienate fans. Seemed to have ignored the traditional football community of Parramatta, Fairfield and Liverpool.

Western Sydney Bid

Backed and developed by player agent, Chris Tanner

Home ground: ANZ Stadium

Team name: Premier State FC

Focus point: Business case where junior football clubs in Western Sydney inject capital and then receive distribution of profits from the club.

Strengths: Strong football region with a population of 1.8 million people. World-class stadium with a capacity of over 80,000. Sydneys ability to attract and retain players, coaches and executive, and commercial strength of Sydney.

Drawbacks: Use of ANZ Stadium, which is not well considered by Western Sydney football fans. That publicised radical and contemporary business model to include traditional football clubs in Western Sydney as investors, as most financial backers of A-League clubs have lost money to date.
MOD EDIT - added quotes to show what's what, hard to tell what's going on otherwise.
 

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