A-League Expansion

[David Votoupal]

Dig deeper and names like "Red Diamonds" have greater significance if you know Japanese football and its history.

 

[Bear]

Dig deeper and names like "Red Diamonds" have greater significance if you know Japanese football and its history.

Go on then, edu-ma-cate us, please

 

[David Votoupal]

Dig deeper and names like "Red Diamonds" have greater significance if you know Japanese football and its history.

Go on then, edu-ma-cate us, please

In Japan, prior to the transformation of football into a professional sport with the J-League, sports teams long had ties to corporates and on a lower level some still do. Urawa Red Diamonds began as the team of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, 3 red diamonds = Mitsubishi logo as we all know.

 

[dru]

Ok lets go through the J league

Gamba Osaka - comes from either the italian for leg or the Japanaese work Gambura which means to do your best.
Urawa red diamonds- comes from the fact it was a mitshubishi owned and run team
Shimizu s-pulse - the pulse is supposed to be the English word to represent the spirit of the supporters
Kashima antlers- well Kashima means deer island so it make some sense
Kawasaki frontale- frontale means front oh yeah that is better than fury.
Albirex Niigata - The team name is made from combining the star Albireo of the constellation Cygnus (the Swan) and the Latin word Rex meaning 'king'
Yokohama f Marinos- Marinos means 'sailors' in Spanish. and our mariners is thought to be not cool
Kashiwa Reysol - the name represents king and sun in spanish and somehow is supposed to relate to them being a company team for Hitachi origanlly
Jbilo Iwata - Jbilo is exultation in Portuguese origanlly a yamaha company team
Vissel Kobe- Vissel is a combination of the words victory and vessel, a nod to Kobe's history as a port city. origanally a kawasaki steel company team
Nagoya grampus- the grampus comes from the two golden grampus dolphins on the top of Nagoya Castle-fair enough
fc tokyo- first and only "fc" in J league 1
JEF United Ichihara Chiba - The  JEF is taken from JR East and Furukawa Electric
Oita Trinita - The team name Trinita can be considered either a combination of the English word trinity and Ōita, or the Italian word trinit. The dual meaning expresses the will of the citizens, companies, and local governments to support the team.
Omiya Ardija - The nickname "Ardija" is a transcription of the Spanish language ardilla (squirrel) which is the mascot of Ōmiya (represents the area at least
Consadole Sapporo - Consadole is supposed to be from a japanese word spelt backwards
Tokyo Verdy- if anyone can help me on Verdy It would be apreciated may mean club or something because the club was formely two clubs and both used verdy in there name
Kyoto Sanga F.C. - sanga is a term meaning group or club so is as silly as saying an atm machine.


Lets see if a team say tied with red bull suddenly came out with a team badged the bulls we would place so much shit on it.

 

[T]

And thus ends todays trivia lesson.....

 

[dru]

And thus ends todays trivia lesson.....

Take notes for the J-league section of trivia night 

 

[David Votoupal]

Well that's what I was saying, at least those names have some sort of meaning and substance to them. Names like Fury, Thunder, Lightning, Power, etc don't cut it in comparison.

Mariners is actually a more traditional nickname. Grimsby Town are nicknamed that, because of their location and the fish industry.

 

[T]

And thus ends todays trivia lesson.....

Take notes for the J-league section of trivia night 

Shhh, don't tell anyone.

 

[dru]

Well that's what I was saying, at least those names have some sort of meaning and substance to them. Names like Fury, Thunder, Lightning, Power, etc don't cut it in comparison.

Mariners is actually a more traditional nickname. Grimsby Town are nicknamed that, because of their location and the fish industry.

Substance? half the words are from other languages and would have as much sunbstance as calling a club Wellington shebangabang it means nothing in the local language. Fury relates to the aggresion with which the club will take to the field of battle and the anguish at which our supporters mourn our losses. Any of this with decent wording could be seen to have substance.

With grimsby it is that a nickname something that attched to the club over time officially they are Grimsby town fc.

 

[Ted]

I beg to differ and think Thunder and Lighting are worthy names for a football branding. Fury is ok too, Power though, I am not that fan of.

 

[David Votoupal]

The way I see it, we can only make further progress as a football nation by adopting the culture and norms of the established football nations, and immersing ourselves with it. You look at the heartlands of the game in Europe, Latin America, Africa... they don't need this plasticky New Age crap to get fans oh so excited. Football should be about starting from the bottom and working up.

 

[The Umina Whiner]

The worst sports name I've heard in a long time is the new NBL franchise - The Sydney Spirit. Sounds like a bunch of punces to me.

Why don't Aussie teams very often use good native flora/fauna in the names? The Wallabies, Kookaburras and Kangaroos are great monikers, I reckon.

Some unused names are Cassowarries, Platypii, Fairy Penguins... the list goes on.

 

[BAD BULLZ]

2nd central coast team

north central coast bullz

but seriously 

 

[goingtoadisco]

i figure its only the glory and the fury that have no cultural bearing ??

victory - victoria
Mariners- sea side geographically ?
jets- has an airbase in newcastle
phoenix- born from the ahses of NZ knights

i would include the roar, but word out is there going to be re-branded next year.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Sydney Park Avenue?
Melbourne Academicals?
Central Coast Albion?
Newcastle Wanderers (actually, I quite like that one)
NQ Argyle?
Gold Coast Athletic?
Perth Rovers
Wellington United
Adelaide Spartans
Qld Hotspur?

not sure traditional names are much better TBH

 

[marinermick]

Sydney Park Avenue?
Melbourne Academicals?
Central Coast Albion?
Newcastle Wanderers (actually, I quite like that one)
NQ Argyle?
Gold Coast Athletic?
Perth Rovers
Wellington United
Adelaide Spartans
Qld Hotspur?

not sure traditional names are much better TBH

yes, very excitable and marketable

by the way, when we talk about traditional names we talk about british traditional names not australian

the australian traditional names are the croatias, macedonias, olympics and budapests!!!

 

[tuftman]

can't forget Juventus...there was a side with Juventus as their moniker or whatever wasnt there?

 

[marinermick]

can't forget Juventus...there was a side with Juventus as their moniker or whatever wasnt there?

more than one

brunswick and adelaide, not to mention various state league teams at the time with that name

 

[David Votoupal]

Not just that, in Spain you have Sporting, Racing, Athletic... whilst in Brazil Cruzeiro is a reference to the Southern Cross. Trinity appears on the name of some non-League club, National is used by a few clubs in South America. A simple name reflecting the region or city you're in, or a suburb, usually suffices. Even Locomotive or Torpedo sounds better

It seems that the main theme some are pushing here is that "tradition" and the traditional way of doing things is somehow a bad thing. But tell me, if it is, then why does it work?

 

[FFC Mariner]

Torpedo Townsville

Kool