Who should be our Manager?

[Wombat]

Blind Freddy can see.

 

[Roy Law]

I chose Other as our next manager as I think if Moss was to go there would be plenty of applicants for the job and could provide a better choice than Mulvey/Rudan/Walmsley.
Unfortunately I don't think Charlesworth has any clue as to what is required; this is where we miss Turnbull who was a true football man.

 

[Wombat]

Which is why they gave Mossy a 3 year contract after a moderate start to his coaching career.
He was cheap and Charlesworth is stupid or badly guided.
Gull called it at the time.

 

[midfielder]

Given Fitzy has in recent weeks lucky to be in the side and arguably our worst on park ... he is a wide mid ..

Given Fabio Ferreirs is a wide mid lacking in game time and so will need to be replaced about the hour mark... which he was...

Would a wide mid on the bench be sorta a obvious bench sitter ... so we have a striker sitting on the bench ...

We are also playing some very boring Football ...

I really hope I am wrong but to me it appears that in 3 key roles ... Coach, CEO & Owner we have people out of their depth, combined they are simply not up to running a professional club in a national domestic competition... How a long for the LM / GA, Goreman, Turnbull

 

[Atomic]

Posted on Twitter

Soccer Stoppage Time ‏@SocStoppageTime 2h2 hours ago
We are hearing that the @CCMariners and @Everton partnership will involve a management restructure at CCM #SST

 

[true believer]

Posted on Twitter

Soccer Stoppage Time ‏@SocStoppageTime 2h2 hours ago
We are hearing that the @CCMariners and @Everton partnership will involve a management restructure at CCM #SST

can't come soon enough . im sorry to say .

 

[shipwreck]

Oh snap... a clever way to dress up someone getting sacked

 

[rbakersmith]

Posted on Twitter

Soccer Stoppage Time ‏@SocStoppageTime 2h2 hours ago
We are hearing that the @CCMariners and @Everton partnership will involve a management restructure at CCM #SST

If that were true I suspect it would result in Stalder being replaced by Storrie (who is already responsible for a management overview). Unless Everton are actually investing in the club, I don't think they can press for board representation.

 

[shipwreck]

Ohhhh

 

[Big Al]

Interesting. No way they send promising youngsters to play the shit we are but management sounds a stretch to the manager.

 

[Gratis]

interesting times. I can only think that changes will be a good thing atm

 

[Wombat]

So Moss has 22% support from a very sycophantic community.

Even the clueless and blind are starting to see!

If we have to do it on the cheap in a typical CCM way, why not install Walmsley until the end of the year with the carrot of a 12 mth contract if he can turn around the nonsense Mossy has been trying to coach.

 

[nebakke]

So Moss has 22% support from a very sycophantic community.

God, I hope you're not suggesting that we make the coaching position a popularity contest?
Of course a coach should be liked and popular, but judging on some of the drudge that gets hurled at him during the games, I wouldn't let any of the 'favored' options anywhere near our bench... It would just result in the revolving door that has been the Smurfs and Brisbane over most of the life of the HAL.

I'm still in the pro-Mossy grouping, and if 'Blind Freddy' can see, it's a bl**dy miracle... To a great extend I think we should hold on to him because, as I have raised previously, I simply don't see a better option.

Mulvey had a good couple of season at Roar, but he also had a pretty appalling season... Why is his appalling season better than Mossy's current, apalling season?

Bleiberg... Personally, I'm not convinced... Not sure that he'd want to either - which seems to be a factor that is often conveniently forgotten. Also, it's been a while since he coached at this level and the league has moved along a lot since then.

Rudan - There's the whole moving to Sydney thing... Then, on the upside, at least he's not been recycled everywhere, on the downside, he did about as well in last NSW PL as we're doing in the current A-league... Considering his career progression, I don't think it'd hurt him to spend a little longer in the lower league, but what do I know?

I think that covers off about the lot of the current carousel. If we could/would actually find someone new, willing to come, it might be interesting... But in particular, I don't see the point in moving Mossy along in order to put in place another assistant... Why? What makes you think that the guy who, as assistant, presumably has quite a bit of input to our current approach, would be any different to the head coach?

 

[dibo]

So Moss has 22% support from a very sycophantic community.

Even the clueless and blind are starting to see!

If we have to do it on the cheap in a typical CCM way, why not install Walmsley until the end of the year with the carrot of a 12 mth contract if he can turn around the nonsense Mossy has been trying to coach.

What a colossal load of shit.

Assuming that people who disagree with you are sycophants, clueless and blind is just ridiculous.

People aren't forming a view because they agree with you, they're forming a view for their own reasons.

I'm of the view that far from being sycophantic, this place is a hive of relentless negativity.

When we were on the road to winning the league a couple of years ago, all you'd read on here is how awful everything was and how we were going broke.

On the way to the championship all we'd read about was how awful it was that we had young players being snapped up by overseas clubs.

This year we're having a less successful year, clearly, but all we've had from pretty much round 1 this season is "Moss out"etc.

It has been a pre-ordained conclusion searching relentlessly for an argument to support it.

I look forward to your well-lubricated and cogently argued rebuttal.

 

[MagpieMariner]

I'm generally not in favour of shafting the coach, I'm much more inclined to shaft the non-performing players first. However, I do expect the coach to drill the players in a style/format/plan (call it what you will) that they are capable of playing or that suits their abilities. This does not seem to be happening at the moment. We appear to be trying things that don't work for this playing group. Is this because this group isn't capable of following any kind of plan, or is it because the coaching staff aren't capable of devising something different? A case in point IMO was Adelaide, we were leading so they brought on another attacker; Friday we were behind so we brought on defenders. Our plan wasn't working, but we didn't change anything. We have seen other games this season where opposing coaches have changed their plans mid-game. We have been using the same plan all season, it hasn't worked but there's been no change. Is this the fault of the coaching staff or won't the players do what they're told? I'm inclined to think it's the former, in which case we need to change the staff.

 

[Wombat]

What a colossal load of shit.

Assuming that people who disagree with you are sycophants, clueless and blind is just ridiculous.

-Dibo, You are very sycophantic (but you probably view yourself as supportive). Some others on here struggle to criticise when it's required.
Some on here simply don't understand Football too deeply.


People aren't forming a view because they agree with you, they're forming a view for their own reasons.

-Who mentioned anyone agreeing with me? The majority want Moss out because he is doing a poor job it has nothing to do with me or you.

I'm of the view that far from being sycophantic, this place is a hive of relentless negativity.

-that's because you are in the relentlessly optimistic camp....or the I can't see the wood for the analysis paralysis camp.

When we were on the road to winning the league a couple of years ago, all you'd read on here is how awful everything was and how we were going broke.

On the way to the championship all we'd read about was how awful it was that we had young players being snapped up by overseas clubs.

This year we're having a less successful year, clearly, but all we've had from pretty much round 1 this season is "Moss out"etc.

- that's not true. Many people could see we had issues but it was probably not until 5 or 6 dire performances on the trot that the "moss out" mantra was heard.

It has been a pre-ordained conclusion searching relentlessly for an argument to support it.

-Some would argue that Moss having problems was preordained but most hoped for the best. Unfortunately Mossy's best has been very very average.

I look forward to your well-lubricated and cogently argued rebuttal.

- Another Pavlovian post from you Dibo that I would suggest was aided by some of the Hunter's finest.

I will ask you one last time.....are you happy with how we are playing and are you happy with Mossy's tactics thus far this season??

 

[dibo]

You projecting a little bit there, eh Wombat?

Not everyone comes on here to post only when half cut, particularly when posting before noon.

It's not at all worth talking football with you.

 

[Wombat]

You projecting a little bit there, eh Wombat?

Not everyone comes on here to post only when half cut, particularly when posting before noon.

It's not at all worth talking football with you.

Haha
You should have been a politician.
And don't give up your day job.

 

[scottmac]

What a colossal load of shit.

Assuming that people who disagree with you are sycophants, clueless and blind is just ridiculous.

People aren't forming a view because they agree with you, they're forming a view for their own reasons.

I'm of the view that far from being sycophantic, this place is a hive of relentless negativity.

When we were on the road to winning the league a couple of years ago, all you'd read on here is how awful everything was and how we were going broke.

On the way to the championship all we'd read about was how awful it was that we had young players being snapped up by overseas clubs.

This year we're having a less successful year, clearly, but all we've had from pretty much round 1 this season is "Moss out"etc.

It has been a pre-ordained conclusion searching relentlessly for an argument to support it.

I look forward to your well-lubricated and cogently argued rebuttal.

I think you'll find that your memory doesn't serve you too well & is fabricating a history to support your views. In no way has this place ever been relentlessly negative at any time.

Sure there has been whinging & might I say there has been solid reason for it too.

 

[Roy Law]

What a colossal load of shit.

Assuming that people who disagree with you are sycophants, clueless and blind is just ridiculous.

People aren't forming a view because they agree with you, they're forming a view for their own reasons.

I'm of the view that far from being sycophantic, this place is a hive of relentless negativity.

When we were on the road to winning the league a couple of years ago, all you'd read on here is how awful everything was and how we were going broke.

On the way to the championship all we'd read about was how awful it was that we had young players being snapped up by overseas clubs.

This year we're having a less successful year, clearly, but all we've had from pretty much round 1 this season is "Moss out"etc.

It has been a pre-ordained conclusion searching relentlessly for an argument to support it.

I look forward to your well-lubricated and cogently argued rebuttal.

I read it as Wombat making the point that in the sycophantic world of the fans of any football club there are now only 22% who want Moss retained.