Follower said:
CCF Chairman said:
offtheball said:
I do not understand why points tables can be sent to clubs and not placed on the web site.
Why is it possible for match reports be placed on the Lightning section of the web site weekly but "technical difficulties" prevent s any input for the rest of the site?
You are correct I was not having a go at everyone from CCF in regard to Geoff Rayner, if anyone took it this way I apologise. it was just another example of the sad inadequacy of the CCF web site, It seems CCF underestimates the importance of the web site as a means of communication, because "contact your delegate" doesn't cut it.
I agree with all of your comments. We are currently looking at a program that will allow the draws, results and tables to be loaded on to the website and also forwarded to the clubs. It wont be in place for this season but hopefully the new website, with all of the features and functionality you would expect for an Associations site, will be fully operational for next year.
Maybe the CCF has underestimated the importance of the website as a means of communication in thinking that the members would rely on their own clubs website and internal communications as their first choice. But again, we rely on what the clubs tell us and they want the information for fixtures and draws to be communicated through their fixtures officers - under the present system and perhaps because of the inadequacy of the CCF website. I can assure you - we are working on ways of changing and improving it.
Are you serious. Clubs have volunteers. You have fulltime staff and you come up with this for a response. This just shows how out of touch you are with the local football public. I am sorry CCF Chairman this is not personal but in any other business you would be shown the door for the performance of CCF this year. The problem is the board is not accountable to anyone and there is no transparency. I pay good money to play and dont get good service.
Yes I am serious - and I am also a volunteer who has given his time to the Association in various roles for 10 years, and to my club as an administrator for 30 years and as a player for 45 years. I am also a parent who has had children playing for 8 years and 5 years. I think I am pretty much very well in touch with the local football public - as any player, coach, referee, official or parent who has had anything to do with me will testify.
You seem to be under some sort of illusion that we exist in a different footballing world to you - but each of the Board members is a member of a club just like you are. Some are players, some are coaches, some are referees and all are parents. We experience first hand,day in day out, exactly the same things you do. We all pay our money for ourselves and/or our children like everyone else. We too have games washed out, transferred and rescheduled, some times at late notice and some times at great inconvenience.
The CCF has ONE full time paid administrative staff member, thankfully that is about to become two, plus two part time - one dealing with accounts and one with draws and competitions.
The Board is accountable to every member on the Central Coast - totally the opposite to your accusation that they are accountable to no one. Any single board member can be removed at any time and all are only elected for 12 month terms. Again, unlike your baseless allegations, it is the most transparent board and organisation you could ever imagine. Every single director reports monthly to all of the clubs and is answerable to them at all times. And not one Director in the past 10 years has claimed one cent of the $75 per month honorarium that the clubs say we deserve to be reimbursed for our time and effort.
This year, despite being subjected to the worst wet weather for many years and being at the mercy of (at least one) council that forces us to operate under very difficult circumstances, we will manage to play over 95% of all scheduled competition games with only an absolute minimum being washed out. They have all managed to have been rescheduled and fitted into a time frame that gives us no room to move with most clubs having to be off their grounds by the end of September - some even have to be off by the start of the month.
dibo said:
TBF - the Assocation can't be expected to update every individual person involved in every team at every level of every club. While club delegates can't be expected to pull a full time load, equally they don't deal with 20+ clubs.
Many hands make light work, and let the association staff actually organise the competitions that the clubs are playing in.
A chain of communication isn't too much to ask, otherwise your association's paid staff will be so busy dealing with every individual who wants to confirm that the rescheduled under whatevers match is being played here at this time and there will be a ref and who needs to set up the nets etc. that they don't have any time to actually organise that this match be played.
players/parents -> manager -> club -> association.
dibo, as always, makes some very logical and rational observations.
Follower - if you think that you are not getting good service for the money you pay - all I can ask is what are your expectations - from your team, your club and your association? The Association provides a competition for your club to enter teams in. They organise and administer the competition that is played on grounds provided generally by the local council for clubs to train and play on. They provide for finals matches, gala days, presentations and higher level competitions. They also provide development programs, school programs, holiday clinics, coach education and representative football. The results (where the clubs have advised them) of every match in every division and every age group are provided to every club on every Saturday and Sunday night. The tables have not been provided as regularly as in the past because of the disrupted nature of this years competition, as well as delays in being notified by the clubs (only a few - the majority do an excellent job).
I am sorry if you think this is not getting good value for money or being provided with good service. It makes me wonder who is really out of touch.
