Forum Phoenix
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No way Hutcho could be ready for manager yet. Would be a poor decision and likely spell the end of his career before it even began. Really don't think the club or Hutch are that stupid.
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#walmsleyout
- Thread starter Deej
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You can't see the evidence given all of the new records that we are about to hold?
He may be a good salesman, and a nice bloke, but any other coach with his record would be fishing everyday by now.
He took on a tough job, a credit to him for that, but he should go back to the TD role he was hired to do.
I don't buy into the "we can't find anyone else to coach us" debate either. There are plenty of unemployed coaches out there who would love another opportunity.
FFC Mariner
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I think they are
midfielder
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If they do it will set him up for failure I hope he has enough common sense to say I am not ready yet.
Muscat was offered the MV position 3 times and accepted it the fourth time ...
If they do it will set him up for failure I hope he has enough common sense to say I am not ready yet.
Muscat was offered the MV position 3 times and accepted it the fourth time ...
sydmariner
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He's still a c**t though.
Luca Brasi
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Dibo posted this on the CCM Transmutation thread on 23 Feb, I think it should be repeated here as the only sensible option for this thread.
I think we need to actually go over the football department properly and get it in good shape.
We've essentially put a first-time head coach in charge of the youngsters and hoped that it won't be disastrous. It hasn't actually been a disaster but it certainly hasn't been good. I don't think that's TW's fault; I think he's been on a hiding to nothing, and while others might have done better I'm not sure that they'd have even considered taking the job on in the state we were in when Moss exited!
Since then, under TW's leadership, the squad has had major surgery and that's ongoing; this coming off-season will see more change I'm sure, but ultimately there's a core of hungry youngsters in need of some quality leadership to climb the ladder. He gets major credit for that - there have been very few deadset duds (and *every* manager gets at least some signings wrong) and he's been shopping in the cheaper aisles so I'm comfortable with where we're at so far.
When we signed TW on as head coach, I got the feeling that that was a stop-gap measure. Maybe the best solution is that he should still be at the club, but in the TD role he was originally signed up for.
And if anyone thinks that Hutch should be put into the crucible they're mad. Let the guy learn his trade before throwing him in there. If he's good enough he'll get there anyway.
So now let's clear the decks. We've got the office humming, let's give the football department the same treatment. Appoint TW to the role he was hired to do, and let him do it. As it stands, there's a queue around the block of people who want to take his head off, and that's not fair on him. Let him do the job he was hired to do and have another bash at getting a head coach in.
I think we need to actually go over the football department properly and get it in good shape.
We've essentially put a first-time head coach in charge of the youngsters and hoped that it won't be disastrous. It hasn't actually been a disaster but it certainly hasn't been good. I don't think that's TW's fault; I think he's been on a hiding to nothing, and while others might have done better I'm not sure that they'd have even considered taking the job on in the state we were in when Moss exited!
Since then, under TW's leadership, the squad has had major surgery and that's ongoing; this coming off-season will see more change I'm sure, but ultimately there's a core of hungry youngsters in need of some quality leadership to climb the ladder. He gets major credit for that - there have been very few deadset duds (and *every* manager gets at least some signings wrong) and he's been shopping in the cheaper aisles so I'm comfortable with where we're at so far.
When we signed TW on as head coach, I got the feeling that that was a stop-gap measure. Maybe the best solution is that he should still be at the club, but in the TD role he was originally signed up for.
And if anyone thinks that Hutch should be put into the crucible they're mad. Let the guy learn his trade before throwing him in there. If he's good enough he'll get there anyway.
So now let's clear the decks. We've got the office humming, let's give the football department the same treatment. Appoint TW to the role he was hired to do, and let him do it. As it stands, there's a queue around the block of people who want to take his head off, and that's not fair on him. Let him do the job he was hired to do and have another bash at getting a head coach in.
soccer mad
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There's nothing that could change this current season , and where heading for records we've never achieved before sadly. Big pills to swollow for harden fans ,but I have seen enough on the pitch to know we need directional changes .
This is not a personal attack on TW but he would make a good Td some of his findings this year are potentially very good ,there's some big engines in this crop and energy with strong technical guidance there's no reason we can't be nocking mid table even with budget restraints.
This is not a personal attack on TW but he would make a good Td some of his findings this year are potentially very good ,there's some big engines in this crop and energy with strong technical guidance there's no reason we can't be nocking mid table even with budget restraints.
We make the choice to spend less than other clubs. The same salary cap is available to us as everyone else.
Yes we have a young squad through deliberate policy, and we're seeing the result of that.
TW has already stated that first priority next season is an experienced spine, so it would seem the youth policy has gone the way of the all out attack approach.
All we're doing now is "developing" young players to leave as soon as they can so they can actually win a game or two (ie Mitch Austin not re-signing), and dropping fans each week as we lose again.
dibo
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Why don't we magic some more money out of the air?
We make a choice not to spend more money in the same way as I choose not to drive the Ferrari 458 to work each day and make a policy to drive the Ford Focus.
dibo
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It's $2.55m of guaranteed income. It goes into consolidated revenue, but we only have to spend the floor.
In the end, if we're to save $200k by not spending $200k then that's a $200k smaller loss that the club makes (i.e. $200k less out of MC's pocket).
That's a financial decision, based on how much money we have. It's not like he's profiteering, he's minimising losses.
In the end, if we're to save $200k by not spending $200k then that's a $200k smaller loss that the club makes (i.e. $200k less out of MC's pocket).
That's a financial decision, based on how much money we have. It's not like he's profiteering, he's minimising losses.
Rowdy
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Great car analogy
We certainly didn't have us a Ferrari team this year.
But will Charlesworth Foc'us next season.
So if we spend the floor there is an additional $382,500 going to the club that isn't being spent on players. Hence yes we choose to spend less on players.
So if we're not competitive on this basis then it is via club policy no matter for what reason.
dibo
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What part of "if we don't have the money, we can't choose to spend it" do you not get?
If I ask you for a million dollars, you can't give it to me whether you choose to or not (I'm guessing - I don't know you so you could be Bill gates for all I know). That's not you making a decision to not give me a million dollars, the decision is made for you by circumstance.
I could tell you off for not choosing to be richer, it's just as pointless and nonsensical.
nebakke
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Only in-so-far as current club policy is to stay in business and try to turn around the enormous deficit from previous seasons.
Blackadder
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Well another Manager has become available if by some chance they part ways with Walmsley
Aurelio Vidmar, has been removed from Olyroos duties.
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au...five-years-service/10wmw02lm7g0r1tnms7yus5soz
Aurelio Vidmar, has been removed from Olyroos duties.
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au...five-years-service/10wmw02lm7g0r1tnms7yus5soz
FFC Mariner
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Not the best record as a coach and proven inability to get a young team performing.
I'd pass
I'd pass
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