Walmsley Sacked

[scottmac]

Experienced coaches wont go where you cant even spend to the cap (Mulvey allegedly)

I cant see that a Tony Vidmar and possibly Sterj dream team would be worse

I may have jizzed a lil after reading those 2 names together

 

[Gratis]

http://www.insidesport.com.au/fourfourtwo/news/its-not-all-tonys-fault-433059

Central Coast Mariners star Fabio Ferreira says former boss Tony Walmsley should not take all the blame for the situation the club finds itself in.
The Mariners off-season had already got off to a poor start when last season’s A-League wooden spoon winners were dumped from the FFA Cup by Victorian NPL side Green Gully. The club now appears to be in further turmoil after the board could not bear witness to another disastrous season with Walmsley at the helm.

Speaking after Central Coast finished training without their fallen manager in attendance, Ferreira says Walmsley’s short time coaching an A-League club coupled with the average age of the squad were reasons behind today’s sacking.

“He wasn’t a bad coach he tried to do his best,” he said. “Obviously he needs a bit more experience but that’s something that comes with time but overall he was a good guy on and off the pitch.

“It’s always a hard situation when your coach leaves but this is football it happens all the time. So even sometimes when you have a great coach things don’t go well. Obviously last year was a tough season, because we had a very, very young team - not everything is the coach’s fault as he’s not the one that plays.

With the team camped on the bottom of the ladder Walmsley spent stages of the previous A-League campaign talking up Central Coast’s ability to entertain, it appeared that results were more important this season and Ferreira echoed that sentiment.

“Obviously entertaining is good but at the end of the day we want to win,” he said. “So hopefully this season we win many more games, because as you know last season was a horrible season. It’s now the past, hopefully when the season starts we can start winning, keep more compact and it will be a better season for us.”

During the off-season Walmsley did attempt to change the culture of the club away from their focus on youth development. Ferreira believes that new signings like Sydney FC duo Jacques Faty and Michael Tavares as well as Melbourne Victory speedster Connor Pain will provide a stronger challenge for the new campaign.

“It is important someone can come in and obviously keep doing the work that we started to do in this pre-season and hopefully make us a strong team in the A-League,” he said.

“For me there have been some good signings for the season ahead. We have some good experienced players which is going to help us a lot and it’s looking better than last season.”

 

[dibo]

It's interesting that Austin has come out about his move away and declined to shitcan the club too. It's probably a good sign.

TW may have been a little out of his depth and outgunned by the competition, but I don't think anyone's going to call him a bad bloke and I think there's nobody who wishes him ill.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Experienced coaches wont go where you cant even spend to the cap (Mulvey allegedly)

I cant see that a Tony Vidmar and possibly Sterj dream team would be worse

I kind of doubt any experienced A-League coach (bar Mulvey) wouldn't want another shot in the A-League even with a smaller budget and restricted squad. There are only ten top level managing jobs in Australia three of which are held by foreigners. You only have to look where former A-League managers end up to see most would want a second chance.

 

[Wombat]

Tony is a lovely bloke and knows his Football but the club is right to cut him now.
I was willing to give him a bit longer but that game against GG showed worrying traits from last season.
I'd like Mulvey but would be happy with an experienced coach from England.

 

[Mini In Bay 6]

I'd be happy with an experienced coach from anywhere, preferably from the mid to upper (depending on size) parts of the various footballing pyramids.

 

[Rowdy]

Adios Walmsley

As for his replacement, I'd reccomend to MC to not just leave it in the hands of Storrie to make the appointment.

MC should be giving Gombau a call and asking for his advice on a suitable Spaniard candidate.

Gombau knows the players we currently have, their strengths and weaknesses and can therefore put a list of Coaching candidates forward who have a Football philosophy that would blend well with the players that we have.

Someone in the vein of Adelaide's Amor - Gombau's once former Assistant/Technical Director.

Someone with a highly credentialled Youth Coach/ Technical Director Role or a lower division Coach/Assistant thats looking to take the next step would suit us going forward, considering our history of recruiting of both Youth and players with pace.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Who will work for virtually no wages and less than the cap?

 

[style_cafe]

I would have preferred Mulvey to TW but we all know that didn`t happen.
Whether he`d be available now is unknown
Neil Lennon has recently signed with Hibs so I`ve ruled him out.
Maybe as journeyman coach, someone like Martin Allen might be an interesting choice.

 

[Blackadder]

He won the AFF tournament, what more do you want?

At the last world cup we were in a shocking group but made the R16 as a 3rd place team (lost to Germany, drew with eventual 4th place Mexico and beat Argentina) before losing to eventual champions Nigeria (who also beat USA, Chile, Brazil, Mexico...).

AFF tournament before that we lost the semi to Thailand, who we knocked off in the final this time.

I really don't see your point.

Eventual champions or not a 6-0 loss in the WC raises some questions imo.
As for the AFF, a luck of the draw penalty shootout win(after a previous shootout win in the Semi) , after losing 3-0 to Vietnam , following a 1-1 draw with Myanmar in the group stages.

 

[dibo]

Feel free to list the many coaches who are better credentialled and more likely to want the job.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Im not sure he would want it to be honest.

Less than stable owner, reporting to someone 12,000k's away and not allowed to spend up to the cap.

You would expect that the global search = Hutch and Monty or someone making a step up

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

There are only 10 professional managing jobs in Australia. I doubt nearly any unemployed or employed manager at a lower level wouldn't jump at the chance even with a limited budget and squad. There aren't particularly many options for an Australian manager.

 

[localpom]

Im not sure he would want it to be honest.

Less than stable owner, reporting to someone 12,000k's away and not allowed to spend up to the cap.

You would expect that the global search = Hutch and Monty or someone making a step up

I'm thinking the opposite. What a great opportunity for a coach to come in and turn us into a cohesive, confident squad again. Turn the worst side into one that competes well and is a chance for the top 6 leading into the last few games. Very achievable and can't see why it wouldn't be a challenge for a number of coaches mentioned. With Rosey gone i'm sure there is room for another couple of players to come in.

 

[Gratis]

Im not sure he would want it to be honest.

Less than stable owner, reporting to someone 12,000k's away and not allowed to spend up to the cap.

You would expect that the global search = Hutch and Monty or someone making a step up

I swear you didn't used to be such a hardcore pessimist FFC. What happened?

 

[dibo]

I swear you didn't used to be such a hardcore pessimist FFC. What happened?

You weren't paying attention!

 

[Gratis]

guess not...

 

[FFC Mariner]

Not inaccurate though - coaches generally want to have huge funds at their disposal because money = success over the longer term.

Look at Rudan when he wasnt allowed to spend up big at Sydney Utd? They fell away.

Wasnt it Mulvey who turned us down because we wont spend? I doubt he is unique. If you are a coach looking to build a career, you cant afford failure. That means you need the money to compete.

 

[dibo]

Not inaccurate though - coaches generally want to have huge funds at their disposal because money = success over the longer term.

Look at Rudan when he wasnt allowed to spend up big at Sydney Utd? They fell away.

Wasnt it Mulvey who turned us down because we wont spend? I doubt he is unique. If you are a coach looking to build a career, you cant afford failure. That means you need the money to compete.

This brings me back to the moneyball thing. It's probably worth the club investing proper money (i.e. possibly $100k+) to get some data analysis capability that allows them to do the moneyball thing properly.

If they get the analytics right, they may generate sufficient additional performance for a given spend that it more than makes up for the investment, and it should *prevent* signing players for way over the odds (as was apparently commonplace in the Moss era - and we wonder why MC is gun-shy on player spending).

That analytical rigour might be enough to convince MC that additional money really will equal additional performance.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Much smarter people in charge now and you will have to work hard to get one over on them (always doable but at least they should have to work at it )

If the whole "moneyball" thing is an actual strategy, you would like to think they have found out how its being used at Brentford and at their Norwegian (??) club.