Turbulence (then calm sailing, then turbulence) thread.

[Gratis]

...the Mariners as a Central Coast team that is emblematic of 'One Central Coast'.[/B] For years we were Woy Woy or Gosford or Wyong - now we are the Central Coast.

this is and has been a particularly poignant point for me - the sense of community and identity the mariners have bright to the coast has been invaluable. it's why, for myself at least, the sense of betrayal is so heavy and why I could never support a moved team. MC thinks we'll accept it in time but the point is he's really not listening

 

[eenfish]

this is and has been a particularly poignant point for me - the sense of community and identity the mariners have bright to the coast has been invaluable. it's why, for myself at least, the sense of betrayal is so heavy and why I could never support a moved team. MC thinks we'll accept it in time but the point is he's really not listening

Bolded for emphasis. From day dot he mooted the idea and was met with "well the Northern Eagles thing has left them very burned, you shouldn't repeat it" - and he thinks it is irrelevant because it is a different sport or something? I'm not sure what is going on in his head. Give us a good team, give us community engagement, we'll give you crowds. My first Mariners shirt was a free-be given to my mum's work, do they still do that stuff? From what I hear there is tonnes being done to advertise the game in North Sydney while there still remains little to no increase in the Coast advertising since I left Kincumber back in late 2012 - whats with that?

Straight up feels like Charlesworth either doesn't care and doesn't want to know.

 

[midfielder]

My understanding is FFA have or could have a voice in the movement of 4 to 5 games ...

Perhaps FFA could be written to pertaining to the fall off in community engagement, the cost of the stadium in a sense do to MC what the they did to Con at the Jerks...

I still think given some radio interviews I heard from the Pens after they won the battle for Manly, that the Mariners and Manly are a long way down the road about something...

 

[Gratis]

Perhaps FFA could be written to pertaining to the fall off in community engagement, the cost of the stadium in a sense do to MC what the they did to Con at the Jerks...
something...

Yes! Great idea!
Maybe a petition outling this signed by thousands of us fans and sent to FFA?

 

[Jaundice]

Give us a good team, give us community engagement, we'll give you crowds.

They have, Coasties havnt lived up to their end of the deal.

 

[eenfish]

http://overthelinesports.com.au/index.php/bad-news-storrie-mariners-fans

Jesus christ how horrifying.

 

[Capt. Awesome]

http://overthelinesports.com.au/index.php/bad-news-storrie-mariners-fans

Jesus christ how horrifying.

Yes I read that. Makes you wonder if MC has any form of character judgement skills. This guy is a train wreak waiting to happen. Anyone can see that.

 

[eenfish]

Yes I read that. Makes you wonder if MC has any form of character judgement skills. This guy is a train wreak waiting to happen. Anyone can see that.

I honestly thought it was satire. I can't believe it. How could MC look at this guy and think "yeah, lets get him on the payroll"

 

[dibo]

They have, Coasties havnt lived up to their end of the deal.

Where's the club ambassador program gone? Where's the Mariners Mates program gone? Where's the relationship with CCF? Where's the local business engagement? Where's the local marketing?

 

[eenfish]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/12/03/relocation-is-not-the-answer-the-a-league-needs-reform

Interesting idea. I think it is rubbish and would further alienate the Mariners, but interesting none-the-less. Of course an Aerial Shits fan would moot the idea of no salary cap.

 

[Capt. Awesome]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/12/03/relocation-is-not-the-answer-the-a-league-needs-reform

Interesting idea. I think it is rubbish and would further alienate the Mariners, but interesting none-the-less. Of course an Aerial Shits fan would moot the idea of no salary cap.

Yes I can't see how removing the salary cap would help us one bit. The league would quickly become another Spanish La Liga where Barca and Real Madrid rule everything.

 

[nearlyyellow]

http://overthelinesports.com.au/index.php/bad-news-storrie-mariners-fans

Jesus christ how horrifying.

Didn't MC do due diligence on Storrie? Or is he a mate of his? If he is a mate, we're right royally effed.

 

[dibo]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/12/03/relocation-is-not-the-answer-the-a-league-needs-reform

Interesting idea. I think it is rubbish and would further alienate the Mariners, but interesting none-the-less. Of course an Aerial Shits fan would moot the idea of no salary cap.

It's a bloody stupid idea.

If we quadrupled the cap and allowed it to be spread across the entire squad, all that we get is rich clubs where *every* player is better than what CCM can afford, rather than the present situation where big clubs can afford *some* players who are better than we can afford (e.g. Berisha) but the rest of the squad has to be broadly similar in standard.

He states the problem to be that the salary cap forces clubs to spend too much and remain uncompetitive, and proposes a solution to alter it in such a way as to massively widen the gap between haves and have-nots?

He must have fallen on his head.

 

[nearlyyellow]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/12/03/relocation-is-not-the-answer-the-a-league-needs-reform

Interesting idea. I think it is rubbish and would further alienate the Mariners, but interesting none-the-less. Of course an Aerial Shits fan would moot the idea of no salary cap.

Totally on the wrong track to remove the salary cap, or increase it to $10m. The inverse would happen, it would make it even harder for regional clubs to raise enough funds to spend more to buy the best players.

Didn't the AFL give financial concessions by way of extra funding on the cap to one or both of the Sydney teams to enable them to attract players to Sydney with it's higher cost of living? Why couldn't the FFA give grants out of the common pool of funds to support the regional clubs? Of course, it would work, but can you imagine to horror of the other big city clubs when smaller regional clubs get more $'s than they?

 

[Jaundice]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/12/03/relocation-is-not-the-answer-the-a-league-needs-reform

Interesting idea. I think it is rubbish and would further alienate the Mariners, but interesting none-the-less. Of course an Aerial Shits fan would moot the idea of no salary cap.

Something needs to be done, The business model for small regional clubs is supremely Ship.

I would suggest lowering the minimum cap floor as a start.

 

[gull]

Something needs to be done, The business model for small regional clubs is supremely Ship.

I would suggest lowering the minimum cap floor as a start.

All clubs struggle in the A League and few, if any, turn a profit.

Unrealistic expectations from owners, particularly ones who are looking towards gaining profit from a development in the long term rather than worrying about the team that uses it, is far more to blame.

 

[Jaundice]

Fair point Gull

 

[Jaundice]

Where's the club ambassador program gone? Where's the Mariners Mates program gone? Where's the relationship with CCF? Where's the local business engagement? Where's the local marketing?

Give us a good team, give us community engagement, we'll give you crowds.

A: We've had a very good and successful team the past 10 years

B: We were/are known as the 'community club' the ones most engaging of their community. Are you telling me this was all Bullship? because I don't believe so from what ive seen especially in comparison to other sports.

So where were the crowds when we had these things?

 

[dibo]

We had average crowds north of 10k, and then we cheaped out on the squad and made the ill-fated escapade to Canberra. Crowds dropped by about a third.

We look like we haven't learnt a thing.

 

[Wombat]

Didn't MC do due diligence on Storrie? Or is he a mate of his? If he is a mate, we're right royally effed.

A stooge.