Turbulence (then calm sailing, then turbulence) thread.

[kevrenor]

This should increase the 'goodwill value' of the club - free kick so to speak for Charlesworth. Visa players news as well.

"FFA EXTENDS HYUNDAI A-LEAGUE LICENCES TO 2034
Football Federation Australia (FFA) has today taken a decision to extend the licences of the nine Australian clubs in the Hyundai A-League until 2034.
The current licences of the clubs had an existing term running until 2020.
FFA CEO David Gallop said the licence extension to 2034 would provide the clubs with long-term certainty for their planning and investment.
“FFA and the clubs have made the stability and sustainability of the A-League the top priority,” said Gallop.
“Today’s decision is consistent with our long-term strategy. The extension will give the clubs the certainty they need over a 20-year timeframe to invest, and will also underpin and enhance the value of the licence.
“The Hyundai A-League is enjoying another great season with attendances, TV ratings, digital audiences and membership all increasing. The licence extension is a sign of confidence that the business model is on the right track for long-term success.”

Today’s decision is not applicable to Wellington Phoenix, whose licence term runs until 2016.
The New Zealand club’s participation in the Hyundai A-League beyond 2016 is subject to approval from FIFA, the AFC and FFA. The issue will be addressed in separate discussions with the club.

In relation to the sale of the Western Sydney Wanderers, FFA reaffirms that no final decision has been made and that discussions are continuing with prospective buyers.

In other matters, FFA today confirmed that each Hyundai A-League club will have a limit of five (5) visa players for next season, 2014/15. In the following season 2015/16 the limit will be reduced to four (4) visa players. A feasibility study will be conducted for possible future implementation of a “3 + 1” model, under which one visa player is Asian.
“The foreign visa players bring so much to the Hyundai A-League in terms of technical ability and marketing interest, but we must also nurture our young Australian players,” said Gallop.
“We have taken a prudent step to reduce the visa limit over a number of years to create more opportunities for local, elite youth players, while acknowledging that the visa players have an important role as we continue to build the competition.
“The idea of a ‘3 + 1’ model being introduced at some stage is aimed at strengthening our links to Asia, where football is undergoing a boom on the technical, professional and business levels.
“This model would align our competition with the AFC Champions League and assist clubs in setting up their player rosters.
“Overall, we view the adjustments in the visa player limits as another step in our strategic plan for the A-League.”

 

[eenfish]

The 3+1 rule is important for coming in alignment with the rest of the AFC. The big long license thing is good, hopefully there is something there where the license is tied to the location of the club and the FFA can still block moves.

 

[VicMariner]

Today’s decision is not applicable to Wellington Phoenix, whose licence term runs until 2016.
The New Zealand club’s participation in the Hyundai A-League beyond 2016 is subject to approval from FIFA, the AFC and FFA. The issue will be addressed in separate discussions with the club.

This is wrong IMO. If WP are playing in the league they should have equal treatment. That goes for the FFA cup too, they should be in it.
FIFA should ditch the OFC and incorporate it into the AFC and the split the AFC into east and west.

 

[kevrenor]

This is wrong IMO. If WP are playing in the league they should have equal treatment. That goes for the FFA cup too, they should be in it.
FIFA should ditch the OFC and incorporate it into the AFC and the split the AFC into east and west.

Yep, they'll do that!

Good god, I've just realised that means the Mariners licence runs until I'm 84 and my grandkids will be in Bay 16!

 

[MagpieMariner]

My grandkids already are in Bay 16 lol.

 

[bikinigirl]

. just wondering aloud regarding the 'visa spots' ... if this is a change by the governing body, does that mean existing contracts may be ... umm ... open to change as well - for the purposes of alignment of course

. for example: yes we know we signed you to a big dollar, 3 year contract ... but the rules have changed ... and well, you just aren't asian enough

 

[Gratis]

hahaha, I like it

 

[VicMariner]

I don't think the PFA would like it.

 

[midfielder]

This should increase the 'goodwill value' of the club - free kick so to speak for Charlesworth. Visa players news as well.

"FFA EXTENDS HYUNDAI A-LEAGUE LICENCES TO 2034
Football Federation Australia (FFA) has today taken a decision to extend the licences of the nine Australian clubs in the Hyundai A-League until 2034.
The current licences of the clubs had an existing term running until 2020.
FFA CEO David Gallop said the licence extension to 2034 would provide the clubs with long-term certainty for their planning and investment.
“FFA and the clubs have made the stability and sustainability of the A-League the top priority,” said Gallop.
“Today’s decision is consistent with our long-term strategy. The extension will give the clubs the certainty they need over a 20-year timeframe to invest, and will also underpin and enhance the value of the licence.
“The Hyundai A-League is enjoying another great season with attendances, TV ratings, digital audiences and membership all increasing. The licence extension is a sign of confidence that the business model is on the right track for long-term success.”

Today’s decision is not applicable to Wellington Phoenix, whose licence term runs until 2016.
The New Zealand club’s participation in the Hyundai A-League beyond 2016 is subject to approval from FIFA, the AFC and FFA. The issue will be addressed in separate discussions with the club.

In relation to the sale of the Western Sydney Wanderers, FFA reaffirms that no final decision has been made and that discussions are continuing with prospective buyers.

In other matters, FFA today confirmed that each Hyundai A-League club will have a limit of five (5) visa players for next season, 2014/15. In the following season 2015/16 the limit will be reduced to four (4) visa players. A feasibility study will be conducted for possible future implementation of a “3 + 1” model, under which one visa player is Asian.
“The foreign visa players bring so much to the Hyundai A-League in terms of technical ability and marketing interest, but we must also nurture our young Australian players,” said Gallop.
“We have taken a prudent step to reduce the visa limit over a number of years to create more opportunities for local, elite youth players, while acknowledging that the visa players have an important role as we continue to build the competition.
“The idea of a ‘3 + 1’ model being introduced at some stage is aimed at strengthening our links to Asia, where football is undergoing a boom on the technical, professional and business levels.
“This model would align our competition with the AFC Champions League and assist clubs in setting up their player rosters.
“Overall, we view the adjustments in the visa player limits as another step in our strategic plan for the A-League.”

Huge news a means we are around subject to having enough money until 2034...

 

[Roy Law]

This means that Charlesworth now has a viable asset to sell, something he has complained about before. Which doesn't mean he will sell out but does mean investors may be attracted to a club that always plays in the ACL (fingers crossed and every other appendage...well, almost every one).
And I do like the restriction on visa players; keep pumping up the volume for young Aussies.
Next expansion and an increase in the salary cap...
As for the Phoenix, I think they are a great part of the A League but they'll just have to deal with the problem of being awkward housemates; just like all the Kiwis I know
(I lived and worked in Welly for two years; great people but with an enormous Aussie sized chip on their shoulder)

 

[kevrenor]

Not all as it seems on the licence extension?

http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...eferral&utm_campaign=www.footballtoday.com.au

 

[eenfish]

Ruh roh:

But what has been exercising the clubs for some time is that buried in their contracts with FFA are a series of KPIs they are supposed to meet — if they don’t the licence can be taken off them unilaterally.

So average crowds of less than 12,000, memberships under 8000, or even the team finishing bottom three years in a row — all can cause the withdrawal of their licences.

Basically (if true), every club except East Sydney, West Sydney, and Victory can be on the chopping block if the FFA take a disliking to their owner a la Clive Palmer and GCU. Worrying.

Could also shed light on why this license agreement didn't include Wellington: set to a different set of standards to ensure their existence… but I doubt the FFA really give a toss about Wellington and New Zealand TBH, so that is pure silly speculation.

 

[dibo]

Who do you trust more - FFA or owners?

For myself, I'm honestly not sure I have an answer to that.

 

[MagpieMariner]

Who do you trust more - FFA or owners?

For myself, I'm honestly not sure I have an answer to that.

Politicians.

 

[pjennings]

Seems this has been released to coincide with what was always going to be a low crowd on Friday night rather than when larger crowds are expected in the coming weeks against, the Smurfs, Scum and Drive-Bys


The Central Coast Mariners want to play an A-League match out of Brookvale Oval

• David Riccio and Tom Smithies
• February 22, 2014 7:00PM

February 19, 2014 2:31
THE Central Coast Mariners have held talks with the Manly Sea Eagles to play an A-League match out of Brookvale Oval next season.

However, the rare joining of forces by the two rival codes could lead to much more than just a one-off game.

The proposal has the potential to escalate into a relationship that could lure the Federal Government into providing the much-needed funding required to re-develop Brookvale Oval.

Manly Sea Eagles chief executive David Perry met with the NRL last week, where a range of options and alternatives were discussed on how the Sea Eagles could come up with the $10 million urgently required for the upgrade and expansion of the existing facilities.

The Sea Eagles already have $10 million pledged from the Federal government.

Manly have received $10 million from the Federal Government to upgrade and expand Brookvale oval. Source: News Limited

One alternative discussed was to turn Brookvale Oval into a multi-purpose stadium, which could facilitate not only the Sea Eagles, but the Mariners as well.

Playing baseball matches out of Brookvale Oval has also been discussed.

Perry wasn’t willing to divulge details of the meeting or Manly’s Brookvale Oval plans when contacted by The Sunday Telegraph.

However, Mariners owner Mike Charlesworth confirmed he has indeed held conversations with the Sea Eagles and ground authorities about hosting a game at Brookvale oval.


The Mariners have made their annoyance at having to pay hefty rental fees for Bluetongue Stadium in Gosford well known. They hosted Wellington at North Sydney Oval last December.

A move to Brookvale Oval would also allow the cash-strapped football club to target a new audience on the Peninsular, which could ultimately lead to increased membership and sponsorship.

Charlesworth said that while the Mariners would never consider entirely turning their back on Gosford, playing some matches at Brookvale Oval was enticing.

“We’re definitely not leaving Gosford,’’ Charlesworth said.

“But as with the game we hosted at North Oval this year, we have to look at any opportunity to cut our cost.

“We’ve had approaches from a number of grounds about Mariners games and holding a game at Brookvale Oval next season is something we’re very keen to explore.‘’

Ironically, the Mariners interest in playing at Brookvale Oval has emerged just days after The Daily Telegraph reported Sea Eagles fans will be asked to pay an increased entry fee to watch home games this season.

An infrastructure levy by Warringah Council, who own Brookvale Oval, will bump up the cost of admission by $1. The ticket price increase stems from a $25,000 rise in the rent price to play at the run-down suburban ground.

The NRL are believed to be supportive of the Sea Eagles campaign to upgrade Brookvale Oval despite a future focus from NRL chief executive Dave Smith to ensure that within the next five years all 16 team’s will be playing the majority of matches out of two to three major stadiums.


http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/...f-brookvale-oval/story-e6frf3ru-1226834677330

 

[VicMariner]

The proposal has the potential to escalate into a relationship that could lure the Federal Government into providing the much-needed funding required to re-develop Brookvale Oval.

See Wollongong Wolves - St George Illawarra.
Why help thugby anyway????

 

[midfielder]

And so I cry sometimes when I'm lying in bed
Just to get it all out, what's in my head
And I, I'm feeling a little peculiar
And so I wake in the morning and I step
Outside and I take deep breath
And I get real high
And I scream to the top of my lungs
What's goin' on?

And I say hey-yeah-yeah-yeah, hey yea yea
I say hey! what's goin' on
And I say hey-yeah-yea-eah, hey yea yea
I say hey! what's goin' on

 

[sydmariner]

Seems this has been released to coincide with what was always going to be a low crowd on Friday night rather than when larger crowds are expected in the coming weeks against, the Smurfs, Scum and Drive-Bys


The Central Coast Mariners want to play an A-League match out of Brookvale Oval

• David Riccio and Tom Smithies
• February 22, 2014 7:00PM

February 19, 2014 2:31
THE Central Coast Mariners have held talks with the Manly Sea Eagles to play an A-League match out of Brookvale Oval next season.

However, the rare joining of forces by the two rival codes could lead to much more than just a one-off game.

The proposal has the potential to escalate into a relationship that could lure the Federal Government into providing the much-needed funding required to re-develop Brookvale Oval.

Manly Sea Eagles chief executive David Perry met with the NRL last week, where a range of options and alternatives were discussed on how the Sea Eagles could come up with the $10 million urgently required for the upgrade and expansion of the existing facilities.

The Sea Eagles already have $10 million pledged from the Federal government.

Manly have received $10 million from the Federal Government to upgrade and expand Brookvale oval. Source: News Limited

One alternative discussed was to turn Brookvale Oval into a multi-purpose stadium, which could facilitate not only the Sea Eagles, but the Mariners as well.

Playing baseball matches out of Brookvale Oval has also been discussed.

Perry wasn’t willing to divulge details of the meeting or Manly’s Brookvale Oval plans when contacted by The Sunday Telegraph.

However, Mariners owner Mike Charlesworth confirmed he has indeed held conversations with the Sea Eagles and ground authorities about hosting a game at Brookvale oval.


The Mariners have made their annoyance at having to pay hefty rental fees for Bluetongue Stadium in Gosford well known. They hosted Wellington at North Sydney Oval last December.

A move to Brookvale Oval would also allow the cash-strapped football club to target a new audience on the Peninsular, which could ultimately lead to increased membership and sponsorship.

Charlesworth said that while the Mariners would never consider entirely turning their back on Gosford, playing some matches at Brookvale Oval was enticing.

“We’re definitely not leaving Gosford,’’ Charlesworth said.

“But as with the game we hosted at North Oval this year, we have to look at any opportunity to cut our cost.

“We’ve had approaches from a number of grounds about Mariners games and holding a game at Brookvale Oval next season is something we’re very keen to explore.‘’

Ironically, the Mariners interest in playing at Brookvale Oval has emerged just days after The Daily Telegraph reported Sea Eagles fans will be asked to pay an increased entry fee to watch home games this season.

An infrastructure levy by Warringah Council, who own Brookvale Oval, will bump up the cost of admission by $1. The ticket price increase stems from a $25,000 rise in the rent price to play at the run-down suburban ground.

The NRL are believed to be supportive of the Sea Eagles campaign to upgrade Brookvale Oval despite a future focus from NRL chief executive Dave Smith to ensure that within the next five years all 16 team’s will be playing the majority of matches out of two to three major stadiums.


http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/...f-brookvale-oval/story-e6frf3ru-1226834677330

CCM @ Brookvale oval=
(allthough it'd be nice as a 1 off "community round" game like the nso game)

 

[true believer]

Seems this has been released to coincide with what was always going to be a low crowd on Friday night rather than when larger crowds are expected in the coming weeks against, the Smurfs, Scum and Drive-Bys


The Central Coast Mariners want to play an A-League match out of Brookvale Oval

• David Riccio and Tom Smithies
• February 22, 2014 7:00PM

February 19, 2014 2:31
THE Central Coast Mariners have held talks with the Manly Sea Eagles to play an A-League match out of Brookvale Oval next season.

However, the rare joining of forces by the two rival codes could lead to much more than just a one-off game.

The proposal has the potential to escalate into a relationship that could lure the Federal Government into providing the much-needed funding required to re-develop Brookvale Oval.

Manly Sea Eagles chief executive David Perry met with the NRL last week, where a range of options and alternatives were discussed on how the Sea Eagles could come up with the $10 million urgently required for the upgrade and expansion of the existing facilities.

The Sea Eagles already have $10 million pledged from the Federal government.

Manly have received $10 million from the Federal Government to upgrade and expand Brookvale oval. Source: News Limited

One alternative discussed was to turn Brookvale Oval into a multi-purpose stadium, which could facilitate not only the Sea Eagles, but the Mariners as well.

Playing baseball matches out of Brookvale Oval has also been discussed.

Perry wasn’t willing to divulge details of the meeting or Manly’s Brookvale Oval plans when contacted by The Sunday Telegraph.

However, Mariners owner Mike Charlesworth confirmed he has indeed held conversations with the Sea Eagles and ground authorities about hosting a game at Brookvale oval.


The Mariners have made their annoyance at having to pay hefty rental fees for Bluetongue Stadium in Gosford well known. They hosted Wellington at North Sydney Oval last December.

A move to Brookvale Oval would also allow the cash-strapped football club to target a new audience on the Peninsular, which could ultimately lead to increased membership and sponsorship.

Charlesworth said that while the Mariners would never consider entirely turning their back on Gosford, playing some matches at Brookvale Oval was enticing.

“We’re definitely not leaving Gosford,’’ Charlesworth said.

“But as with the game we hosted at North Oval this year, we have to look at any opportunity to cut our cost.

“We’ve had approaches from a number of grounds about Mariners games and holding a game at Brookvale Oval next season is something we’re very keen to explore.‘’

Ironically, the Mariners interest in playing at Brookvale Oval has emerged just days after The Daily Telegraph reported Sea Eagles fans will be asked to pay an increased entry fee to watch home games this season.

An infrastructure levy by Warringah Council, who own Brookvale Oval, will bump up the cost of admission by $1. The ticket price increase stems from a $25,000 rise in the rent price to play at the run-down suburban ground.

The NRL are believed to be supportive of the Sea Eagles campaign to upgrade Brookvale Oval despite a future focus from NRL chief executive Dave Smith to ensure that within the next five years all 16 team’s will be playing the majority of matches out of two to three major stadiums.


http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/...f-brookvale-oval/story-e6frf3ru-1226834677330

I be there . what ever it takes

 

[sydmariner]

I be there . what ever it takes

mee too