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this is bullshit
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Deej
Well-Known Member
What a load of f**king shit, why on earth would you even consider it?
I for 1 would certainly not go if it happened, the Mariners pride themselves on their local community spirit and then consider something like this.............pffffft...........I hope it's not true
I can add nothing further than what has been mentioned above.
I for 1 would certainly not go if it happened, the Mariners pride themselves on their local community spirit and then consider something like this.............pffffft...........I hope it's not true
I can add nothing further than what has been mentioned above.
FFC Mariner
Well-Known Member
Interesting point from Spud about the "membership" issues.
Apart from the season ticket and priority booking for semi's (where you lose the good seat as ground organisation is so shit) whats the "beest ride" that we get??
Either give significant bias to members (to the deteriment of non members) or simply call it a season ticket so no one has unrealistic expectations based on the clubs hype.
Rant over
Apart from the season ticket and priority booking for semi's (where you lose the good seat as ground organisation is so shit) whats the "beest ride" that we get??
Either give significant bias to members (to the deteriment of non members) or simply call it a season ticket so no one has unrealistic expectations based on the clubs hype.
Rant over
BiggusMickus
Well-Known Member
I think we should put a proposal to the Mariners in a similar vein to the way fans did at Ebbsfleet United in the UK. Open up a share of the club to be purchased by fans which then gives some level of voting rights into issues like we are discussing on this forum, transfers, facilities, etc. It would be a great way to boost membership and potentially put a stop to this sort of rubbish even being considered.
EBBSFLEET, England - More than 28,000 sports fans from across the world today formally completed the takeover of a lowly English football club, gaining power over everything from team selection to transfers.
The fans each paid a modest STG35 ($A75) annual fee to sign up to http://www.myfootballclub.co.uk (MyFC), which then spent months scouring the leagues to find a suitable club to buy for the experiment.
Shareholders of Ebbsfleet United, who play in the fifth tier of English football, the Blue Square Premier league, met Monday night to agree the takeover, which came into effect today.
MyFC spokesman Will Brooks told AFP: "It's the first community website takeover of a football club in the world and, I think, of any business. We may see more of this in the future.
"Today is a big day because in less than 10 months, from no-one having heard of us, we now have more than 28,000 people from all over the world who are owners of a football club."
MyFC has bought a STG625,000 ($A1.34 million) or 75 per cent stake in the south-east England club through its Internet subscriptions.
Some STG400,000 ($A854,885) have been paid upfront with the rest spread out over two years.
Brooks said the innovative investment could only benefit the club, which is losing about STG30,000 ($A64,115) a year.
The website has provided a new source of income, while media exposure had earned them new kit suppliers for next season.
Existing sponsors Eurostar were also said to be overjoyed at the initiative -- and the extra publicity: they recently opened a new station at Ebbsfleet on the high-speed rail link between London, Paris and Brussels.
With top league football increasingly dominated by corporate interests, Brooks suggested that MyFC was popular because it offered a "wholesome alternative": members will not get a share of the profits or take dividends.
"What people like about what we're doing is it's closer to grassroots football, to players earning just a few hundred quid a week and you can have a drink with them in the bar after games," he added.
"It's more real in many ways. It's not at all a rebellion against corporate football. It's just an attractive and potentially a very good way of funding a lower league club."
EBBSFLEET, England - More than 28,000 sports fans from across the world today formally completed the takeover of a lowly English football club, gaining power over everything from team selection to transfers.
The fans each paid a modest STG35 ($A75) annual fee to sign up to http://www.myfootballclub.co.uk (MyFC), which then spent months scouring the leagues to find a suitable club to buy for the experiment.
Shareholders of Ebbsfleet United, who play in the fifth tier of English football, the Blue Square Premier league, met Monday night to agree the takeover, which came into effect today.
MyFC spokesman Will Brooks told AFP: "It's the first community website takeover of a football club in the world and, I think, of any business. We may see more of this in the future.
"Today is a big day because in less than 10 months, from no-one having heard of us, we now have more than 28,000 people from all over the world who are owners of a football club."
MyFC has bought a STG625,000 ($A1.34 million) or 75 per cent stake in the south-east England club through its Internet subscriptions.
Some STG400,000 ($A854,885) have been paid upfront with the rest spread out over two years.
Brooks said the innovative investment could only benefit the club, which is losing about STG30,000 ($A64,115) a year.
The website has provided a new source of income, while media exposure had earned them new kit suppliers for next season.
Existing sponsors Eurostar were also said to be overjoyed at the initiative -- and the extra publicity: they recently opened a new station at Ebbsfleet on the high-speed rail link between London, Paris and Brussels.
With top league football increasingly dominated by corporate interests, Brooks suggested that MyFC was popular because it offered a "wholesome alternative": members will not get a share of the profits or take dividends.
"What people like about what we're doing is it's closer to grassroots football, to players earning just a few hundred quid a week and you can have a drink with them in the bar after games," he added.
"It's more real in many ways. It's not at all a rebellion against corporate football. It's just an attractive and potentially a very good way of funding a lower league club."
Jeff (LouMacari)
Well-Known Member
I think it's absolutely bloody ridiculous. FFA had their chance to hold the GF there when they bent us over before.
I fully understand and agree with taking the game to new areas during pre season (Orange, Dubbo, ACT, whatever) but NOT a regular season HOME game.
I would hope that other clubs flare up also, because if a precedent is set with this one, then ANY club's home game could be moved on them too.
Maybe there's massive $$$'s being dangled in front of the Mariners nose, but f**k me, how much damage would be done by doing it? An ENORMOUS amount judging by the sentiment here and from others that have called me.
It's certainly created attention even if only a rumour, as many press have contact me about it. I'm a little concerned too that the Mariners have not come out and squashed it immediately.
As President of the Marinators Club, I have contacted the Mariners to formally inform them of the general sentiment on this 'rumour'. Ball is in their court now.
I fully understand and agree with taking the game to new areas during pre season (Orange, Dubbo, ACT, whatever) but NOT a regular season HOME game.
I would hope that other clubs flare up also, because if a precedent is set with this one, then ANY club's home game could be moved on them too.
Maybe there's massive $$$'s being dangled in front of the Mariners nose, but f**k me, how much damage would be done by doing it? An ENORMOUS amount judging by the sentiment here and from others that have called me.
It's certainly created attention even if only a rumour, as many press have contact me about it. I'm a little concerned too that the Mariners have not come out and squashed it immediately.
As President of the Marinators Club, I have contacted the Mariners to formally inform them of the general sentiment on this 'rumour'. Ball is in their court now.
robertdocon
New Member
stuff travelling 2 hours to get to homebush when it only takes me 15 minutes to get to bluetounge, hey this is just like are HOME final we had this year at sydney
Deej
Well-Known Member
The club reads this forum so they know what the feeling with the supporters would be, I'm sure they have received a number of phone calls and emails from various supporters and media people.
Having got a better understanding of the rumour from a friend this morning it's certainly slightly changed my opinion but I still don't agree with it and I can't see the club making the decision to move the game.
Having got a better understanding of the rumour from a friend this morning it's certainly slightly changed my opinion but I still don't agree with it and I can't see the club making the decision to move the game.
If this went ahead a boycott of the game would be in order. We could fill pubs around Gosford instead or something. I'd also encourage Sydney fans to boycott the game as this sort of thing could happen to any club if we just let it go. I'm always pushing for people to join the club as a member, but then we get rewarded for our loyalty with things like this, and getting screwed with the Grand Final venue and ticketing. Why bother?
Thread title says it all.
Not only would the home-ground advantage be lost (as it would by playing at a completely neutral venue), but I guarantee any advantage would be handed over to Sydney (the opposition, remember).
How could you risk giving away competition points immediately following the closest imaginable end to a season?
Clearly from the responses on here the feeling is that the supporters and the community feel ripped-off, so i don't need to emphasise that any further. But the other major concern for CCM should be operating a successful football club. By handing over a home-ground advantage to a rival club, they would only be making their own job harder.
Not only would the home-ground advantage be lost (as it would by playing at a completely neutral venue), but I guarantee any advantage would be handed over to Sydney (the opposition, remember).
How could you risk giving away competition points immediately following the closest imaginable end to a season?
Clearly from the responses on here the feeling is that the supporters and the community feel ripped-off, so i don't need to emphasise that any further. But the other major concern for CCM should be operating a successful football club. By handing over a home-ground advantage to a rival club, they would only be making their own job harder.
dibo
Well-Known Member
my thoughts can be summarised as follows:
- if our ground's not big enough, then make it bigger or build a new one. don't screw the fans.
- if we're not making enough money, screwing with the loyalty and patience of fans is not the right way to go about it. you might make five bucks today, but you might lose ten bucks tomorrow. that patience and loyalty is what gets you through the shit years (and there will be some eventually).
- if the FFA wants to develop western sydney, good for them. screwing with the central coast is not the way to do it. western sydney is not our problem. we are coasties (even those of us in exile), not westies. western sydney has 2 million people and is big enough to look after itself.
- if our ground's not big enough, then make it bigger or build a new one. don't screw the fans.
- if we're not making enough money, screwing with the loyalty and patience of fans is not the right way to go about it. you might make five bucks today, but you might lose ten bucks tomorrow. that patience and loyalty is what gets you through the shit years (and there will be some eventually).
- if the FFA wants to develop western sydney, good for them. screwing with the central coast is not the way to do it. western sydney is not our problem. we are coasties (even those of us in exile), not westies. western sydney has 2 million people and is big enough to look after itself.
dibo said:
Then I would like an explanation because surely it would have been a requirement to prove that having a team based on the coast, playing out of Bluetoungue, would turn a profit, before being given the license from the FFA to go ahead? And if the ground isn't big enough... what the f**k? as far as I know it hasn't gotten any smaller in the last three years.
mustapha_beer
Well-Known Member
As usual, I'm adding to a thread fairly late on, so can't really add anything new.
I voted that I would still go to the game despite being pissed off, primarily because I believe the players still deserve to have the fans backing on match day. That said, I completely understand why the vast majority of coast-based Mariners fans would boycott it. Home games have to be kept on the coast - Olympic Park is a great venue for the right kind of event e.g. The Socceroos-Uruguay, L.A Galaxy, State Of Origin etc....but, for a regular season Mariners-Bling game, it would be three quarters empty, because of all the (quite rightly) pissed off fans who can't or won't travel.
I realise my views are a bit contradictory, but that's about the best I can manage......
I voted that I would still go to the game despite being pissed off, primarily because I believe the players still deserve to have the fans backing on match day. That said, I completely understand why the vast majority of coast-based Mariners fans would boycott it. Home games have to be kept on the coast - Olympic Park is a great venue for the right kind of event e.g. The Socceroos-Uruguay, L.A Galaxy, State Of Origin etc....but, for a regular season Mariners-Bling game, it would be three quarters empty, because of all the (quite rightly) pissed off fans who can't or won't travel.
I realise my views are a bit contradictory, but that's about the best I can manage......
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