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Timmah

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Asked if he expected head coach Scott Miller to keep his job if Lee’s Ledman Group takes over, McKinna said the club desperately needed stability to resurrect its fortunes.

“This is just me talking – it’s got nothing to do with Ledman – but the club needs stability. It’s had an up and down last few years with ownership and nobody knowing what’s going on,” he said.

“Last year, under difficult circumstances, the club improved on the year before. You’ve actually put down a base. You can’t just walk in and start chopping and changing things.”

McKinna described Lee as a “shrewd businessman” who was unlikely to throw millions of dollars at the team in the first year, despite his ambition to have a presence in the Asian Champions League.

“He’s never spoken to me about that, but I think the first year will be a cautious kind of start, until he understands the business. I don’t think it’s going to be big-time Charlie coming in and chucking his money about the place. I don’t think that at all.

“If people expect him to come in and start shelling out for superstars, I don’t think that’s going to happen. And I don’t think it needs to happen straight away. I think people want to see a fair bit of representation from local boys getting in the team, they want to see a team that works hard and plays for the fans.”

McKinna, who travelled to China last month, said Lee was a keen football supporter, but buying the Jets would be a business decision first.

Last year he bought a minor share in global sports marketing company Infront, which was bought by Chinese conglomerate Wanda Group in February 2015 for $US1.2billion.

“In the beginning I thought it was getting his LED business into Australia, but his business is in Australia already. So I was asking, ‘Why does he want an A-League club?’ But once you get to know him he’s got a large media presence in China. He’s a shareholder in one of the biggest sports media companies in the world.

“He’s also got his own football app in China as well and an interest in some other media company he’s just bought, and they’ve got all the TV rights for all the tube stations and buses.

“When I went there and saw the sports media side of things, I went, ‘Now it starts making sense why he would want to have a club in Australia.’

“He loves football – he’s got his own club, and around about his offices everything’s football, so he loves the game. At his factory he just spent $US500,000 building a new astro turf football field for his workers and for the local community to use.

“He sees this as a vehicle for his business. I speak to the guy every couple of days. It’s definitely a business decision.”

He said he had given Lee newspaper clippings and a DVD of the 2008 grand final, when the Jets beat McKinna’s Mariners.

“I said, ‘This is the potential this club’s got.’ He’s passionate, but I think it’s business. He loves the sport, but it’s a business decision as well. People just can’t afford to come in and shop millions of dollars to enter a football club; they have to make the business side of things work.”

McKinna said Lee was keen to have a presence in the lucrative ACL, but his Chinese third-tier club, Shenzhen Renren, was a long way from being able to compete with the giants of Chinese football like Guangzhou Evergrande and Shanghai Shenhua.

He said the Jets, competing for two ACL places in a 10-team league, offered a much better opportunity to compete on that stage.

“He knows he can’t just flick a switch and win the [Australian] league. He knows that.

“His team in China have three leagues to go up before they even have a sniff of getting in the ACL.

“The guy might be a wealthy businessman, but he’s not on the same page as some of these guys who invest in the hundreds of millions of dollars in the Super League in China.

“So, realistically, in Australia you’ve got 10 teams, and you’ve got two chances in 10. And that’s definitely something that interests him. In the ACL the television rights are massive, so that’s where the business side of things comes in.”

McKinna said Lee, who speaks English, would look to involve local companies as Jets sponsors rather than have Ledman livery on the club’s shirts.

“Early indications are that he would prefer local businesses to get behind it. It definitely won’t be like what’s happened in the past where it’s been all in-house sponsorship.

“He’ll be wanting to engage with the community big time, because that’s what I’ve told him from day one, that if you come into this town and you’re an outsider and you don’t treat people with respect, you’ll not get respect, but if you come in here and engage and work with the community, you’ll get good success.

“He might get Chinese sponsors out here, but they’ll be totally separate to him.”

McKinna said Lee would have a presence in Newcastle “going back and forward” to China but expected him to allow his local management team to run the club.

He said he had been impressed by Lee’s conduct at a recent Shenzhen Renren game after his team won.

“He never went in the dressing room after the game. He came into the box and had a drink with everybody then jumped in his car and left,” McKinna said.

“None of this hanging about the dressing rooms and backslapping and walking around the park. None of that stuff at all. As an ex-coach it was fantastic to see. It’s about the players and the team; it’s not about general managers of football or the CEO. It’s about the players on the park and the coaching staff. That’s who people come along and pay money to see and listen to.”

He said part of Lee’s business model could be to send Chinese players to Newcastle to give them experience then sell them back into the Chinese football market, where transfer fees have grown exponentially in recent times. But he cautioned that this was viable only if the players were as good as or better than the players in the Jets squad.

McKinna said he hoped the sale would be completed by the end of the month to allow the club to start planning for next season.

David Eland, who has been acting in a temporary capacity as Jets chief executive, is due to finish at the club next week and return full-time to his primary job as Northern NSW Football boss.

McKinna said he did not meet Lee during his time coaching in China but had been introduced to him recently by an intermediary.

“In my time in China I never knew the Ledman Group, but one of the agents contacted me who lived in China and now lives in Australia and asked if I knew of any of the A-League clubs that would possibly be for sale.

He said he had received dozens of similar inquiries since coaching in China, but Lee had indicated he was serious about following through.

McKinna set up meetings with the FFA and brought Ledman representatives to Newcastle to meet Eland and inspect Hunter Stadium. He also organised a meeting with Primo Smallgoods boss Paul Lederer, who headed up the consortium that bought Western Sydney Wanderers in 2014.

“I wanted them to meet somebody who had just bought a club,” he said.

Lee and his representatives had returned to Australia a second time to meet again with FFA, and Newcastle lawyers Moray & Agnew were handling the due diligence and sale documents.

“It’s all going along all right. It just takes time,” McKinna said.
 

Rowdy

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Just in from 442.com,

Chinese consortium snap up Jets & Lawrie McKinna:

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The long-awaited sale of the Newcastle Jets is about to be realised with a consortium of Chinese owners expected to be confirmed tomorrow.

An official announcement early in the week will unveil the new owner as Martin Lee, president and chief executive of Ledman Optoelectronics, News Corp reports.

Former Central Coast Mariners coach Lawrie McKinna is set take over as the new CEO.

The Jets have been a financial drain on the governing body since they took control of the A-League club over a year ago.

Failed tycoon Nathan Tinkler was stripped of his licence in May last year, and subsequent takeover talks with the owner of Dundee United also collapsed.

Chinese investment in the A-League will be welcomed by the FFA, and is a likely to lead to some big player signings for the Hunter outfit which has struggled to be competitive in recent years.

Full report to follow tommorrow.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/chinese-consortium-snap-jets
 

shipwreck

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Holy f**king shit this is depressing.

McKinna is CCM royalty and is now going to be the CEO of our fiercest rival. Every piece of community engagement acumen and cunning will be spent on Newcastle instead of us.
 

FFC Mariner

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Its not the personnel that I find so depressing its how we have allowed them to overtake us as a club.

Better run, better coached and better funded

Thanks Charlesworth. You made us worse than them.
 

Rowdy

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McKinna unveiled as Jets CEO:

Former Central Coast Mariners head coach and mayor of the Central Coast region Lawrie McKinna has been unveiled as the new Newcastle Jets CEO as of June 30.


McKinna will take over the role of CEO from the outgoing David Eland, who has simultaneously acted as both the Northern NSW Football CEO and the club's Chief Executive.

The newly appointed administrator was quick to show his appreciation for Eland's work however during the transitional period for the Novocastrians.

“I would like to recognise the role that David Eland has played in helping improve Newcastle Jets over the past year, and look forward to engaging with him during the upcoming transitional period,” McKinna said.

“David, alongside Jets staff and FFA, has readied the club for the next phase of its development. I am eager to work collaboratively and positively with him in his capacity as CEO at Northern NSW Football."

The former Central Coast head coach wants to hit the ground running when he takes over, and feels he can lead the Jets into a bright new era as a pragmatic administrator.

“I am excited to be taking up the challenge of administering one of the Hyundai A-League most unique clubs, and look forward to engaging in meaningful dialogue with Jets members and supporters soon as we seek to take the club from strength to strength," he said.

“I was a player, albeit briefly, with Newcastle Breakers in the National Soccer League, and like many people have long recognised the enormous potential that exists for professional football in Newcastle.

“With Ledman’s backing combined with the continued support of our local and national stakeholders, I feel that we can build something big here in the Hunter."
 

Manny_ccm

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Lawrie has his spin doctors trying to prop him up in a better light but it's easy enough to see through the bullshit - claims of being spurned by the club, rejected, let down etc are ridiculous - Lawrie is only interested in one thing, where his next paycheck comes from! If there was no vacant position for him at our club, why should Mike create one for him?

Gatt claims "...McKinna, who has not been part of the club since 2011, offered his help."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...o/news-story/93298e1f99dfb285d4e026ea6ee0235e
which is contradicted by Lawrie's comments in
yet Lawrie only stepped down as Club Ambassador in December 2004 "
Lawrie McKinna, @LawrieMcKinna, After over 10 years being with the Mariners I have decided to resign as club ambassador. It's been an amazing journey for our small club, 1:11 PM - 1 Dec 2014"
https://twitter.com/LawrieMcKinna/status/539240436745764864?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/end-era-mckinna-severs-formal-ties-mariners

Claiming current management were responsible for the loss of community engagement is quite funny when you consider he was Football and Commercial Operations Manager and then Director of Football from 2009/2010 in the Arnold era when community engagement was virtually non existent.

We presumed having him on Gosford City Council would help us with Stadium hire but that turned out to be the opposite with the Council only then openly chasing us for the scoreboard repayment and backrent for the period he was with the club.

Lawrie is only trying to look after Lawrie again
 

FFC Mariner

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This is a far cry from all the other discussion places I've seen where everyone's crawling firmly up his backside and wishing him the best.

Good hustle folks

We agree at last. Some of the grovelling has been sickening.

Don't wish him well or ill. He used to work for the club, now he doesn't.
 

Rowdy

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First order of business ....... go on a holiday !!! :p

Chinese sojourns on the menu for Jets:

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Newcastle Jets fans could see their team taking part in pre-season friendlies against Chinese opposition under the new ownership of chairman Martin Lee and the Ledman Group.


The potential to play games in China is just one way that Lee hopes to grow the Jets brand within his home country as he aims for the club to qualify for the Champions League in the next three years.

“The A-League is getting more and more attention from China through the Asian Champions League,” Lee said.

“Also the Australian national team won the Asian Cup. And Ledman has a very good network in China. So we do very good promotions for our acquisitions.

“And we also want one or two Chinese players in the future to join the Jets so we can get more and more attraction to Chinese fans.

"This is not only a good business decision but also a good decision for our two countries, Ledman and the local (Hunter) community."

The Chinese owner also detailed how his Ledman Group would look to maximise exposure both locally and abroad.

"Now in China, football is booming. It is a very good direction. So, the strategy of our company is to invest money in China but also in overseas markets in football areas," he said.

Lee also desires to make Newcastle the second team for many in China through his own Ledman group.

“Ledman has many, many promotional messages (in China) including the advertisement times in the Chinese Super League for a very big network in national TV to promote anything, including Newcastle,” Lee said.

“So I think in the future we will get more fans in China."

 

Rowdy

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As for Lawrie being tarred with the brush as a traitor ? :confused:

It's a job, plain & simple. Bruce Baird sacked him & he needs to feed himself like everybody else.

Was Postecoglou a traitor to Brisbane Roar when he left for the opportunities at Melb.Victory ??
Hardly!

It's Football & the very nature of the game dictates that staff & players have to migrate from team to team to earn a $.

I'm with FFC, I dont wish LM any ill will nor do I wish him well in his position whilst at the helm for the Scum.
 

Rowdy

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On the back of his success with convincing Martin Lee about 'buying-in' up there in BoganLand, maybe we can have word to Lawrie and get him to convince that other lot of Chinese to move their shit-house theme park up to Scumsville and do us all a favour. :cool:
 

nebakke

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As for Lawrie being tarred with the brush as a traitor ? :confused:

It's a job, plain & simple. Bruce Baird sacked him & he needs to feed himself like everybody else.

Was Postecoglou a traitor to Brisbane Roar when he left for the opportunities at Melb.Victory ??
Hardly!

It's Football & the very nature of the game dictates that staff & players have to migrate from team to team to earn a $.

I'm with FFC, I dont wish LM any ill will nor do I wish him well in his position whilst at the helm for the Scum.

That doesn't mean that he's not a sellout though - it just means that he has a reason to be one... I don't wish him ill either - in fact, I firmly believe that we're better for the Jets being around... I think it helps both our causes and football... So I wish him luck off the pitch, and none whatsoever, on the pitch.

But he's a sellout through and through for mine... He's been selling himself as our #1 fan for years, can't then go across to our biggest rivals without being tarnished.
 

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