Singo to help get Beckham to Bluetongue

[tsd]

my thoughts...

if anyone thinks this will disrupt mariners team culture, i dont think they know how strong it really is. the lads would love it and we are not sydney!

as far as football goes, i would think he would start in rogic's spot and come off around 60 -70 so everyone still gets to play. Hell, rogic may even move in jan anyway and this deal wouldnt kick in until jan anyway.

also i doubt it would be a guest stint, it would be a marque spot paid half by FFA to the end of the season at minimum.

 

[style_cafe]

I think it would be great for football in this country if Beckham came here.
This would be world wide news.It would give the A-League a huge amount of credability & would have the flow on effect of other overseas players wanting to come here.

For Becks to come to the Mariners would also be unbelievable.
The guy is a walking billboard for Christ`s sake!
Imagine the players at training! The young guys would be falling over themselves to train with him.

Hell, I`d take a week off work to watch him train (as would 100`s of others ...lol).

A 10 game period would also see our membership grow as other people take advantage of the deals.
Shirt sales would be huge. Bluetongue would be at capacity & probably more.
The local economy would be boosted & the FFA would give instructions that we were to win all games!

Beckham could single handedly raise our brand onto the world stage for years to come.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Simply can't believe it will happen. But it would be truly incredible.

10 game stint and potential team disruption?? Firtsly he is till a world class player and could very well be the difference in helping us win the plate, not losing it. There's more evidence to say he would, than he wouldn't. ADP is huge for Sydney, and would have scored 15 already if he was playing for us. The media attention and short term tourism this would create for the coast would obviously be FANTASTIC. Sell out games at BT? Like Scottmac said, it's a given. No doubts about it. Would also be the best chance we have ever had to kick our supporter base to a whole new level. I honestly think we could double our membership. Maybe even better. They could sell memberships, starting now, that go right through the ACL - which include and sell because of Beckham's guest stint. Otherwise, take your chances on buying weekly tickets and completely missing out and or having shit seats.

Then we might have decent ACL crowds and a third man advantage which would be nice.

No dickhead policy?? The guys a consumate pro and great ambassador for the game. For the remarkably high profile career he has had, he is remarkably free of dickhead moments.

Just imagine even the amount of kit we'd sell?

What about just even having Beckham's shirt and picture hanging forever in the Mariners COE? This seemingly small fact, will mentally impact on genarations of youth for many years to come and help build our prestige and the kind of long term profile we are trying to create.

I really don't think some people grasp how massive this would be. Nor the potential benefits this could have long term. Honestly... It'd be CRAZY town folks. We are talking totally bat shit Beckham mania, the whole coast buzzing, talking constantly about the Mariners, press everywhere and our games and crowds going absolutely ballistic!

You'd hazard it would be just the tonic to see bay 16 swell in ranks also.

Really good for Arnie's career profile too. And he deserves it.

 

[nebakke]

Simply can't believe it will happen. But it would be truly incredible.

10 game stint and potential team disruption?? Firtsly he is till a world class player and could very well be the difference in helping us win the plate, not losing it. There's more evidence to say he would, than he wouldn't. ADP is huge for Sydney, and would have scored 15 already if he was playing for us.

I understand your point, but from my POV, Beckham isn't anywhere NEAR the quality of ADP. I will acknowledge that I haven't particularly followed his career since he moved to the NSL, from what I've read there's a reasonable chance that the success of the team has as much to do with many of the other players on the team as it has to do with him.

The media attention and short term tourism this would create for the coast would obviously be FANTASTIC. Sell out games at BT? Like Scottmac said, it's a given. No doubts about it. Would also be the best chance we have ever had to kick our supporter base to a whole new level. I honestly think we could double our membership.

I see the media attention, for sure, but again, don't expect an ADP type response and I'm definitely not convinced about the club memberships. Again, I see him more as a novelty item than a class player... The kind of player that attracts crowds for the first little while (yes, 10 games would probably do it), but does very little for conversion rates. So I wouldn't expect a membership boom off the back of signing him.

No dickhead policy?? The guys a consumate pro and great ambassador for the game. For the remarkably high profile career he has had, he is remarkably free of dickhead moments.

Great ambassador for the game? Really?... He's famous for being famous these days... Granted, once upon-a-time it was about bending the shot and impressive performance, but I think there are relatively few people left out there who think of football first when they hear his name these days... It's about fashion, glamour etc...

I really don't think some people grasp how massive this would be. Nor the potential benefits this could have long term. Honestly... It'd be CRAZY town folks. We are talking totally bat shit Beckham mania, the whole coast buzzing, talking constantly about the Mariners, press everywhere and our games and crowds going absolutely ballistic!

Here we can probably agree, it is obvious that there would be a lot of buzz on the coast... I'm just not certain that the flow-on positives are quite what you expect.

At the end of the day, it is probably quite academic - I still don't see the Beckhams coming to Gosford anytime soon. I'd say I'm happy to be proven wrong, but in this case, I would much prefer to be right I think.

 

[T]

To me anything that gets the Mariners or the A-League mentioned in the media in a postitive light is a good thing

 

[scottmac]

The guy is an absolute pro. No-one plays at the level of even the MLS (plus he was in Milan not too long ago) by just being a walking fashion icon. Its well reported he owns at fitness levels in any team he plays for. His training is second to none. When FP talks about being an ambassador, its more about him as a person & his dedication than what he brings in skill. Granted the guy is a fashion icon, but he is one only because of the dedication he has shown to his football.

Beckham would absolutely rock in our midfield. Tommy would get extra time & space plus the service to our wide players & forwards would rise at least a few levels.

 

[Wombat]

IMHO opinion you would have rocks in your head not to take Beckham. He is a 10 x bigger star than ADP.

We would sell out every game home AND away.

He is fit and vastly superior to any player I have ever seen play at BT.

He is also a nice bloke and pretty humble and is definately not a dickhead.

His arrival would be the biggest thing to happen to the coast since the magical moment the Mariners were announced.

 

[Wombat]

I would have thought bringing one of the biggest names in football to the coast would be a good thing... even people who know nothing about the game know who David Beckham is. Sure, it will bring out the part-timers, but isn't that the point? It's then up to the Mariners to convert them into loyal followers!

I can sort of see the argument about not bringing in an aging superstar of the game, and instead giving the opportunity to a young up-and-coming superstar... and points about it only being for 10 games... but if we had a young talent that created the amount of buzz that Beckham would, I imagine we wouldn't see him at the Mariners very long before he got snapped up by some overseas club, so we wouldn't see any long term benefits anyway.

Each to their own, though .

There are no up and coming superstars!
Beckham is the biggest name in the game he is also better than any player in HAL including ADP.

I can't believe some people are so churlish

 

[Wombat]

As for where in the team. CDM. Next to Monty (with instructions for Monty to play ultra defensive). Hutch on the bench. Tommy would benefit greatly from this.

Or right wing.

 

[scottmac]

Or right wing.

No.
McGlinchey is far more mobile than Becks & we own with him on the right. We have been decidedly shitter with McGlinchey on the left & his game suffers immensly from being there. Beckham has been playing in the centre for the Galaxy & we would benefit most from having him there. Both our CM's struggle on & off with distribution, we do not struggle with guys down the wings & its not the place for a 37 yr old guy in the twilight of his career.

 

[Wombat]

No.
McGlinchey is far more mobile than Becks & we own with him on the right. We have been decidedly shitter with McGlinchey on the left & his game suffers immensly from being there. Beckham has been playing in the centre for the Galaxy & we would benefit most from having him there. Both our CM's struggle on & off with distribution, we do not struggle with guys down the wings & its not the place for a 37 yr old guy in the twilight of his career.

I understand what you are saying but Beckham is not that sort of winger. He drifts wide, holds the ball, uses Pedj on the overlap, slips it inside for Rojic on the edge of the box or picks out McBreen head on the 6yd box.....the choices are varied. If there are no options he simply slides the ball back to Monty or Hutcho.
Look at Sterj on the wing for us ATM....he never powers down the line.

WeeMac is good enough to make the switch and even at 85% he is better than Sterj so far

 

[Wombat]

I understand your point, but from my POV, Beckham isn't anywhere NEAR the quality of ADP. I will acknowledge that I haven't particularly followed his career since he moved to the NSL, from what I've read there's a reasonable chance that the success of the team has as much to do with many of the other players on the team as it has to do with him.


With respect.....this post shows a fair bit of ignorance. Beckham dwarfs ADP in profile and star power. As players, Beckham is definately on ADP's level, apart from in the penalty area. In some areas of his game he is superior to ADP.


I see the media attention, for sure, but again, don't expect an ADP type response and I'm definitely not convinced about the club memberships. Again, I see him more as a novelty item than a class player... The kind of player that attracts crowds for the first little while (yes, 10 games would probably do it), but does very little for conversion rates. So I wouldn't expect a membership boom off the back of signing him.



Great ambassador for the game? Really?... He's famous for being famous these days... Granted, once upon-a-time it was about bending the shot and impressive performance, but I think there are relatively few people left out there who think of football first when they hear his name these days... It's about fashion, glamour etc...



Here we can probably agree, it is obvious that there would be a lot of buzz on the coast... I'm just not certain that the flow-on positives are quite what you expect.

At the end of the day, it is probably quite academic - I still don't see the Beckhams coming to Gosford anytime soon. I'd say I'm happy to be proven wrong, but in this case, I would much prefer to be right I think.

 

[scottmac]

I understand what you are saying but Beckham is not that sort of winger. He drifts wide, holds the ball, uses Pedj on the overlap, slips it inside for Rojic on the edge of the box or picks out McBreen head on the 6yd box.....the choices are varied. If there are no options he simply slides the ball back to Monty or Hutcho.
Look at Sterj on the wing for us ATM....he never powers down the line.

WeeMac is good enough to make the switch and even at 85% he is better than Sterj so far

I completely understand what you are saying but i believe that we will lose more than we gain without weemac in that spot.

 

[Wombat]

Hear ya brother,

I'm a big wrap on the little sweaty too.

Let's face it...we are not gonna sign Becks but if we did no one is gonna complain if they have to change spots to accommodate him.

 

[ballantyne]

Everyone's talking about this on the Coast. It would be a huge coup for the club.
However big marquees like Beckham don't bring in silverware for their clubs in the A-League. Kewell, Del Piero, Fowler, - not champions. However they do offer the kind of star power that the other football codes can only dream of. In that sense it is unimportant which club Goldenballs plays for, only that the FFA foots the bill. If he came here, I would see it as balance sheet positive, profit-and-loss negative, but hopefully with the consequently larger capital base we would be in a better position.

 

[Wombat]

All 3 players you mention were in weak shitty squads. Put Becks in ours and we are looking at silerware

 

[pjennings]

The more I think about this the more that I think the HAL is a likely, or more likely than most other places. The other thing that I suspect is that it will be more than a guest stint. This post assumes that if it happens it will be foor more than a guest stint.

First of all - what is his motivation. Number one - it is not money from football. - otherwise he might find himself in the Middle East. The majority of his money comes away from football. So while most HAL clubs can't compete on wages - that may not be a big deal. As far as I can see he has two motivating factors. One is expanding brand Beckham and the second is to make a difference - as he did in the MLS. Going back to England or Europe does not do this. Asia is the likely destination - with billions of people as a market.

I really can't Posh and the family wanting to go to China for a couple of years.

For the challenge I believe Australia is the answer - and with either the Mariners or Perth he has an entry into the Asian market through the ACL. I would have thought that Brisbane with their Indonesian owners would have been a good move but they aren't interested.

Beckham has also been vocal about club ownership. All three of the main competing clubs have at various times been looking for more capital. Maybe this could be his first taste.

Perth
Pros.
Large British background in the populations
In the ACL
Cons
Away from 'world class' cities like Sydney or Melbourne for Mrs Becks

Heart
Pros
In a 'world class' city for Mrs Becks
Cons
Not in the ACL

Mariners
Pros
In the ACL
Proximity to a 'world class' city for Mrs Becks
Academy for Beckham junior
Possible investment into academy as part of the David Beckham Football Academies.

Cons
Proximity to Scumcastle

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Nebbake, we will have to agree to strongly disagree. For me it's very much what Wombat and Scottmac said.

Football wise, I agree with both SM and Wombat. My first thought was to switch him wide for Mile and push Weemac across. But Weemac does play better right and his combination with Pedj pays us great dividends. So yep central is the other obvious possy... but I'd bet a good sum Hutch would retain his position. I am not trying to argue he should mind you, as bar a few stray passes here and there, I've been very impressed with Monty.

Anyhow, I struggle to even believe it might happen... But I'll happily play along.

Pat another big pro is our football. We are second on the ladder, renowned for being the most consistent team, are playing a great brand of football and famed as having a terrific dressing room. For someone who really cares about his football, we are a great team to join. As opposed to say heart languishing down in 9th, with a new inexperienced coach would be pretty hard pressed you would think to lure him.

In terms of the changing the world appeal, the little club that could, with it's new Australian first in facilities couldn't do us any harm. It's a nice pitch.

I think having an established, successful and respected coach in Arnie is a massive plus.

I think Mayor Lawrie is a secret weapon in getting this up. Just imagine he pulled this off? Ha, what a coup!

Perth would be the biggest threats I'd say. They have the money, can offer a lush lifestyle, and would undoubtedly use the old revival to it's former...well... glory days. Someone just needs to tell the Beckhams how damn hot it is. Also they have stadium issues at present. Bluetongue could be a pretty attractive homeground to see yourself playing in for your Australian guest stint. It'd definitely the most "Summerbay" of them all.

The two things I really see going for Heart is being in Melbourne (Not inconsiderable) and also the fact they desperately need better crowds and FFA would be right behind Beckham signing there as a result you would think. But small home crowds, can be a turn off too...

 

[offtheball]

Everyone's talking about this on the Coast. It would be a huge coup for the club.
However big marquees like Beckham don't bring in silverware for their clubs in the A-League. Kewell, Del Piero, Fowler, - not champions. However they do offer the kind of star power that the other football codes can only dream of. In that sense it is unimportant which club Goldenballs plays for, only that the FFA foots the bill. If he came here, I would see it as balance sheet positive, profit-and-loss negative, but hopefully with the consequently larger capital base we would be in a better position.

I still see that Dwight Yorke pass to Corica to win Sydney their premiership in season one in slow motion.

 

[bikinigirl]

I still see that Dwight Yorke pass to Corica to win Sydney their premiership in season one in slow motion.

. i still see the cluster of yellow shirts standing off him for the first time in the match