Seeing the back of Charlesworth

[priorpeter]

It would really help if you guys had ANY runs on the board in looking like an organisation that knows what it's doing. Perceptions often kill in this regard.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

About 30 seconds ago my wife asked me if I wanted any popcorn....starting to think I should have said yes....

 

[greenlig]

Intereesssting. I can't imagine First11 have that much capital, very fresh looking operation. The article read like a resume.

Now we get to ride this emotional rollercoaster for the next few months.

 

[true believer]

it looked like a gee up web site to me . still better than the russians , again .

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[pjennings]

it looked like a gee up web site to me . still better than the russians , again .

That Russian (or should I say Circassian family) were quite colourful. At one stage they were trying to broker a deal with Alan Bond to buy old Antonov aircrafts from Russia to use as for aerial fire fighting in Australia.

 

[pjennings]

While Michael Charlesworth has said the club is up for sale I think we all need to ignore the daily 'who is buying the Mariners' speculation. This will not happen overnight. Hopefully not too long, but it won't come clear in days or even weeks, the process will take time but we need to be looking for the right owners/investors - not the first shiny thing that comes up.

Sure if someone wants to offer Michael Charlesworth stupid money he would grab it, as most people would in an instant.

I'm not sure whether to be fearful of losing my club to another area or to be excited for the future of the Mariners on the Coast.

 

[marinermick]

That Russian (or should I say Circassian family) were quite colourful. At one stage they were trying to broker a deal with Alan Bond to buy old Antonov aircrafts from Russia to use as for aerial fire fighting in Australia.

Why do they now sound like the two kids from War Dogs?

 

[MrCelery]

David Squires - always funny...

David Squires on ... a Central Coast dreams factory up for sale

Our cartoonist takes a look at the what the Mariners have to offer after the A-League club was put on the market

www.theguardian.com

 

[jacobsfl]

You've posted that in three different threads now.

 

[Ironbark]

What in the straight up f*#k!

Dwindling Mariners crowds leaves Central Coast Stadium haemorrhaging
Daily Telegraph

Central Coast Council will consider seeking expressions of interest for the management and naming rights for the region's premier stadium after a new ...

aaaaand then paywalled

 

[turbo]

What in the straight up f*#k!

Dwindling Mariners crowds leaves Central Coast Stadium haemorrhaging
Daily Telegraph

Central Coast Council will consider seeking expressions of interest for the management and naming rights for the region's premier stadium after a new ...

aaaaand then paywalled

Council:

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

What in the straight up f*#k!

Dwindling Mariners crowds leaves Central Coast Stadium haemorrhaging
Daily Telegraph

Central Coast Council will consider seeking expressions of interest for the management and naming rights for the region's premier stadium after a new ...

aaaaand then paywalled

It's the Terrorgraphl....take anything you read there with a huge pinch of salt.
Although I'd say that looking for a naming rights sponsor is unrelated to any of this too....

 

[jacobsfl]

Let's take a moment to reflect on how poor the reporting is from The Roar.

"Following Mike Charlesworth’s announcement that he will be selling the Central Coast Mariners, it seems their fate is now sealed. The next question is – who could replace them?"

Someone please shut these pork chops down

Who should replace the Mariners?

Following Mike Charlesworth's announcement that he will be selling the Central Coast Mariners, it seems their fate is now sealed. The next question is…

www.theroar.com.au

 

[marinerbhoy]

Going on what Shaun has said, isn't it a good thing that Council is going to open tender? I totally get that Council is trying to save face here, but the practical reality is the Council/stadium need the Mariners, and the Mariners need the Council/stadium. No other company would be interested in management rights without the Mariners as it would not be financially viable without a major tenant, so I can't imagine there being too much competition. Any company looking for management would see the Mariners as an essential source of revenue so they would have to offer something amazing to the Mariners to stay at the stadium. The way I see it, this article, if true, paves the way for the removal of the 'uniqueness' criteria from council staff for unsolicited approaches.

I spoke to my mate who is a Councillor for another council (obviously) to gather his thoughts. Bluntly, he said any unsolicited approach that is not supported by council staff has a 5% chance of getting through. He also said both parties need to find a way to work together, because if they don't, CCMFC won't exist anymore and the stadium will become a $1m p.a burden to the ratepayer.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Charlesworth sulks over not getting a free asset and says he's leaving.

CCC decide to put the stadium rights up for tender

Coincidence? I doubt it.

ABC - anyone but Charlesworth. He has contributing to burning through every bit of community good will built up by previous incarnations and the sooner he f**ks off out of our club the better

 

[turbo]

Charlesworth sulks over not getting a free asset and says he's leaving.

CCC decide to put the stadium rights up for tender

Coincidence? I doubt it.

ABC - anyone but Charlesworth

Or the council is now shitting themselves because they’ll have a money sink that gets used 3 times per year. Realising it isn’t necessarily empty threats now.

 

[LFCMariners]

While Michael Charlesworth has said the club is up for sale I think we all need to ignore the daily 'who is buying the Mariners' speculation. This will not happen overnight. Hopefully not too long, but it won't come clear in days or even weeks, the process will take time but we need to be looking for the right owners/investors - not the first shiny thing that comes up.

Sure if someone wants to offer Michael Charlesworth stupid money he would grab it, as most people would in an instant.

I'm not sure whether to be fearful of losing my club to another area or to be excited for the future of the Mariners on the Coast.

This. I feel like either I'm about to win the OzLotto jackpot or become homeless with no in-between...

 

[pjennings]

What in the straight up f*#k!

Dwindling Mariners crowds leaves Central Coast Stadium haemorrhaging
Daily Telegraph

Central Coast Council will consider seeking expressions of interest for the management and naming rights for the region's premier stadium after a new ...

aaaaand then paywalled

Dwindling Mariners crowds leaves Central Coast Stadium haemorrhaging
Richard Noone, Central Coast Express Advocate
August 7, 2020 12:00am

Central Coast Council will consider seeking expressions of interest for the management and naming rights for the region’s premier stadium after a new report found the under-utilised asset was losing money and may never `break even’.

It comes after Mariners CEO Shaun Mielekamp emailed councillors with the club’s unsolicited proposal for management rights for 30 years and concept plans to activate the southern side seven days a week with cafes, licensed restaurants, shops and a catering school.
The council is expected to put its own draft Central Coast Stadium Strategy on public exhibition after its meeting on Monday.

Council is

The strategy reveals for the first time how much the iconic venue, with breathtaking views of Brisbane Water, is costing ratepayers.
“Modest returns have been generated from Mariners’ games, driven mostly by recent lower attendances,” the strategy states.

“With around half of all events provided by Central Coast Mariners, the success of the stadium is related to the team’s ability to attract crowds.”

The strategy states “in summary” the challenging financial performance reflects a “relatively common theme for regional venues with a single tenant”.

“The stadium has not been able to achieve `break even’ financial performance since its return to council management in 2014,” the strategy states.
“Currently the stadium represents a net financial cost to council, with annual operating losses between $841,000 to $1.4 million. Ongoing capital expenditure requirements are estimated in excess of $1 million per annum on average.”

The strategy states the 13 Mariners games in 2017-18 increased gross regional product (GRP) by around $2.1 million, or about $161,538 per game.
However the three NRL games held at the stadium that season delivered increased GRP of about $287,300 per event for a total of about $861,900.
The strategy reveals total attendance at Mariners games fell from 174,310 in 2017-18 to 101,215 in 2018-19, a drop of nearly 42 per cent.
“The stadium is under-utilised with a relatively limited event calendar both in quantity and diversity of events,” the strategy states.

Just three NRL fixtures generated almost half as much gross regional product (GRP) as 13 home games.

The strategy found the stadium’s food and beverage facilities were limited and it needed a large function centre to host up to 400 people, which could be improved by an onsite commercial kitchen.
It could also use a “BBQ deck” for general admission.
The strategy found it needed to replace the existing static signage with LED signage, provide Wi-Fi or mobile apps for event days, video walls, electronic menu boards and a merchandise shop.
The plan also calls for council to develop complimentary opportunities such as hotels, gyms, pools, retail and training facilities to “further activate the stadium precinct and generate economic returns”.

A report to councillors about the strategy document states: “The stadium is reliant on a single tenant hirer and finds it difficult to compete as a stand-alone venue in attracting content to the Central Coast”.
The strategy outlines several priorities for the stadium including expanding the event calendar, activating the precinct on both event and non-event days and increase revenues.
“The strategic elements, once implemented, will improve the financial impact of the stadium to council by improving revenue streams, reducing operational costs and mitigating risk,” the report to council states.
“However, it is unlikely that the stadium will ever be a profit generating asset for council. This is common across Tier 2 venues in NSW and stadiums generally.”
The strategy also calls for council to establish a defined budget so the stadium can attract more high profile events such as NRL games
Opened in 2000, the strategy reveals council was going to host 20-year anniversary activities but this has been placed on ice because of COVID-19 and instead plans to hold 21st birthday celebrations next year.

 

[bikinigirl]

Dwindling Mariners crowds leaves Central Coast Stadium haemorrhaging
Richard Noone, Central Coast Express Advocate
August 7, 2020 12:00am

Central Coast Council will consider seeking expressions of interest for the management and naming rights for the region’s premier stadium after a new report found the under-utilised asset was losing money and may never `break even’.

It comes after Mariners CEO Shaun Mielekamp emailed councillors with the club’s unsolicited proposal for management rights for 30 years and concept plans to activate the southern side seven days a week with cafes, licensed restaurants, shops and a catering school.
The council is expected to put its own draft Central Coast Stadium Strategy on public exhibition after its meeting on Monday.

Council is

The strategy reveals for the first time how much the iconic venue, with breathtaking views of Brisbane Water, is costing ratepayers.
“Modest returns have been generated from Mariners’ games, driven mostly by recent lower attendances,” the strategy states.

“With around half of all events provided by Central Coast Mariners, the success of the stadium is related to the team’s ability to attract crowds.”

The strategy states “in summary” the challenging financial performance reflects a “relatively common theme for regional venues with a single tenant”.

“The stadium has not been able to achieve `break even’ financial performance since its return to council management in 2014,” the strategy states.
“Currently the stadium represents a net financial cost to council, with annual operating losses between $841,000 to $1.4 million. Ongoing capital expenditure requirements are estimated in excess of $1 million per annum on average.”

The strategy states the 13 Mariners games in 2017-18 increased gross regional product (GRP) by around $2.1 million, or about $161,538 per game.
However the three NRL games held at the stadium that season delivered increased GRP of about $287,300 per event for a total of about $861,900.
The strategy reveals total attendance at Mariners games fell from 174,310 in 2017-18 to 101,215 in 2018-19, a drop of nearly 42 per cent.
“The stadium is under-utilised with a relatively limited event calendar both in quantity and diversity of events,” the strategy states.

Just three NRL fixtures generated almost half as much gross regional product (GRP) as 13 home games.

The strategy found the stadium’s food and beverage facilities were limited and it needed a large function centre to host up to 400 people, which could be improved by an onsite commercial kitchen.
It could also use a “BBQ deck” for general admission.
The strategy found it needed to replace the existing static signage with LED signage, provide Wi-Fi or mobile apps for event days, video walls, electronic menu boards and a merchandise shop.
The plan also calls for council to develop complimentary opportunities such as hotels, gyms, pools, retail and training facilities to “further activate the stadium precinct and generate economic returns”.

A report to councillors about the strategy document states: “The stadium is reliant on a single tenant hirer and finds it difficult to compete as a stand-alone venue in attracting content to the Central Coast”.
The strategy outlines several priorities for the stadium including expanding the event calendar, activating the precinct on both event and non-event days and increase revenues.
“The strategic elements, once implemented, will improve the financial impact of the stadium to council by improving revenue streams, reducing operational costs and mitigating risk,” the report to council states.
“However, it is unlikely that the stadium will ever be a profit generating asset for council. This is common across Tier 2 venues in NSW and stadiums generally.”
The strategy also calls for council to establish a defined budget so the stadium can attract more high profile events such as NRL games
Opened in 2000, the strategy reveals council was going to host 20-year anniversary activities but this has been placed on ice because of COVID-19 and instead plans to hold 21st birthday celebrations next year.

. well it seems that the Council didn't just through the Mariners proposal in the bin ... they used it to create a 'Stadium Strategy' ... how innovative

. despite all that, the most frustrating thing is comparing GRP (whatever that is and however it is calculated) for two different types of events ... it shows the level of thinking - it is like comparing the weekly rent for holiday letting vs. the weekly rent on long term leases

. they may as well have said Lionel Richie generated lots or income for the region so our new strategy is to have Lionel perform every night ... we'll make a fortune!

 

[FFC Mariner]

Its almost like CCC hate the Mariners with the passion of everyone who has ever done business with Charlesworth. Who knew?