R25 Adelaide Away

[FFC Mariner]

Yes.....he has to shoulder the blame. THE DEFENSIVE STRUCTURE IS TERRIBLE and ive harped on about the need for a defensive coach but Izzo is very very sub standard.

I would hope that our head coach is capable of working on defence. If he isnt and needs help, he shouldnt have the job

 

[Wombat]

So thats TW and Hutcho out of a job then??

 

[Rowdy]

The scorn directed at Izzo is somewhat warranted but just as much of it should be directed to TW for constantly picking him in the starting 11.

For me, and I'm pretty sure Wombat as well, the straw that broke the camels back was when Izzo went off to the Olyroo's.

He had poor form in the A-League prior to entering camp and wasn't even selected to play (no surprise there from Aurelio Vidmar) & subsequently Izzo picked up an injury.

Tinker did well coming on for the red card incident and wasnt too bad in the next game following Izzo's mandatory suspension.

But it was Bray's debut that was enough, for me, to warrant the change. It was the perfect time to have given Alistar both personally and publically 'the nod' for another 2 games.

It would've instilled in Bray a confidence from his Gaffer that "your previous game was good - soooo here's another 2 games to prove yourself further and show me and your teammates that you should be the #1 GK."

It would've put a rocket under Izzo's arse to let him know that recent form is not up to scratch.

BUT TW failed to do any of this.
And in doing so failed Bray, failed Izzo as well - by surreptitiously saying what your giving us is acceptable, failed the team - the club - the fans and ultimately failed the season.

Why the bloody hell did he sign the guy (Bray) ??? who then becomes injured and convinently makes all of this moot.

It really makes me question what his end game for Izzo is and Tinker for that matter, because if we're the devolping/sell-on club putting the kid in & seeing if he could sink or swim would've been a more viable option knowing the season was done for. We might have another Matty Ryan on our books but we just dont yet know it.

The conditions were ripe for such an experiment, from a coach who's whole season has been a one massively failed experiment to say the least.

But TW's decision to persist with Izzo has to be given a significant weight of scrutiny amongst the many domino's that cascaded this season.

For if he'd only perhaps substituted one domino for another more stout (Bray for Izzo) imo we may have seen a halt in WHAT IS STILL cascading !!! AND answered some questions that we may never get an answer to.

That IS .... if Bray is released at seasons end then we will never know if he would've been or could have been a good, cheap alternative going forward for next year.

Bray will be wondering just as much, as if not more than all of us.

TW on the otherhand leaves me wondering if he entrtains such wonderment at all.

 

[Rowdy]

Just read the WSW thread squad's and seen Bray listed as out (torn miniscus - season)

So I guess that the determination is & has been made regarding him, BUT the question will still remain ........... what if ???

 

[FFC Mariner]

Walmsley in "can't manage people" shock.

Who knew......

 

[Gratis]

I too felt Bray deserved a few more games to press his case and also make Izzo fight for his spot back - the better performing keeper should always get the nod.

This said Bray has then gone on to have a number and range of apparent injuries since and may have something to do with it that we're unaware of

 

[tim...]

Not to put Bray down but did he not concede 2 or 3 goals in the game he played between the sticks? I feel like he and THB have been given this God status for their cameos this season which weren't as impressive as we'd like to think.

 

[scoober]

Not to put Bray down but did he not concede 2 or 3 goals in the game he played between the sticks? I feel like he and THB have been given this God status for their cameos this season which weren't as impressive as we'd like to think.

If you watched the Bray game could easily have been a lot, its the only game this season we've had our keeper command his box. I recall him going through his own defender to get a cross or two, something Izzo will never do.

 

[nebakke]

If you watched the Bray game could easily have been a lot, its the only game this season we've had our keeper command his box. I recall him going through his own defender to get a cross or two, something Izzo will never do.

Actually - Izzo did more-or-less that last weekend... Though with less impact... Ascroft as well I think

 

[BrisRecky]

got two words for you regarding Izzo's form and skills....SACK FKN NASH!...well, two words and an abreviation

 

[BrisRecky]

WELL...another four goals given up on the road...whats that 20 in a month or something?....and we cant even blame Izzo for any of these ones, im again at the point were I'm wondering if Walmsley or Fraudsly as some CCM fans I know and respect are starting to call him....its like he only shows up at games and doesnt go to the training pitch, he, and Hutcho, must see the obvious defence problems and issues...i'm sure their doing something about it but its clearly not enough, you can keep blaming the kids, but a equal (if not more) amount of blame HAS to go onto the coaching staff, if we cough up 4 goals to the Scummers next week, there will be, very polite and gentle, rioting in the stands

 

[Blackadder]

Agree with most of the above, not sure the rioting will be polite and gentle if the Mariners cough up 4 goals to the Scummers.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Won't matter, hardly anyone I know will be there to see it.

 

[Wombat]

Thats a bit weak for my liking.

I will be there and drag a few with me for the final game.

They have been a shambles this year but they are still our team.

COYY

 

[Gratis]

I'll be there

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Won't matter, hardly anyone I know will be there to see it.

Not even Mug Punter?