Players Season 2012/2013 HAL8

[pjennings]

We have good cover in most spots.
Keeper....1st team and reserve. OK
Right back......Pedj is definitely my starting RB. We are an infinitely better side with him in the back four. He has the best go forward of any fullback in HAL. His crossing is poor but that can be easily be fixed with repetition. Need cover for when he is suspended.
Left back.......1st team and reserve. OK
Centre backs.....Wilko and Dutchy. Sainsbury and Anderson as cover. Not sure that we need anyone else.
Right mid....WeeMac. Can play Kwas or Hutcho as cover...or even Hearfield.
Left mid......Bozanic with Hutcho or Kwas as cover.
DM ....starting 11 player needed desperately. Hutcho is good as cover.
Am.....another quality player of the standard of Perez or Nicky Carle to battle for starting spot. McBreen to act as cover for this spot and striker.
Striker ......we need a proven high quality goalscorer like Nathan Burns or Sackwacker (not him but that standard) to partner Bernie.
Kwas , McBreen and Hearfield can act as cover.

So I see that we only need 3 new players.

I agree with you - but that is also assuming we resign a few people and Anderson is confirmed.
Also, as I said in a previous post I wouldn't be surprised in Pellers asks for a release. He is at an age when he should be in or challenging for a starting berth but hasn't really featured at all.

-----------------------------Ryan/Pasfield

-Pedj??/Oates----Wilko/Sainsbury---Patrick??/Anderson??----Rose/McDonald


-------------------------------DM???/Caceres--------------------------


WeeMac/Pellegrino-------------------------------------------Olly/Hutch


--------------------------------AM???/Rogic??---------------------------


---------------------------Macca/Bernie/Troy/Kwas/Duke/Striker---------------

I'm looking forward to seeing what Caceres can do, as well as Rogic after a full pre-season. However, both these positions need to be string and first team players need to be signed. If Caceres and Rogic are playing well enough they will be in the frst team alongside - even if that means playing with a different formation.

 

[pjennings]

Another thing I noticed - again assuming we resign a few people and Anderson is confirmed is the split in youth and experience, In a squad of 21, we have 11 older than 23 and 10 that are 23 or younger. Of those 10, 7 of them, Ryan, Sainsbury, Anderson, McDonald, Olly, Rogic and Bernie have had decent amount of HAL game time either here or previously.

Over 23

------------Pasfield

Bojic---Wilko---Patrick----Rose

--------------Hutch------------------

-----WeeMac--------Pellers

Troy----------Macca------------Kwas


23 or younger

-----------------Ryan

Oates---Sainsbury---Anderson----McDonald

----------Caceres-----Olly------------------

------------------Rogic

Bernie------------??------------------Duke

 

[Wombat]

I agree with you - but that is also assuming we resign a few people and Anderson is confirmed.
Also, as I said in a previous post I wouldn't be surprised in Pellers asks for a release. He is at an age when he should be in or challenging for a starting berth but hasn't really featured at all. .....oh yeah i forgot about Pelle ( for obvious reasons).

-----------------------------Ryan/Pasfield

-Pedj??/Oates----Wilko/Sainsbury---Patrick??/Anderson??----Rose/McDonald


-------------------------------DM???/Caceres--------------------------


WeeMac/Pellegrino-------------------------------------------Olly/Hutch


--------------------------------AM???/Rogic??---------------------------




---------------------------Macca/Bernie/Troy/Kwas/Duke/Striker---------------

I'm looking forward to seeing what Caceres can do, as well as Rogic after a full pre-season. However, both these positions need to be string and first team players need to be signed. If Caceres and Rogic are playing well enough they will be in the frst team alongside - even if that means playing with a different formation.

 

[Muppet]

I seem to recall Fabio Ferriera trailled in the game against Marconi. I wonder if he is still on the radar. He can play in a AM or strikers role. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1bio_Ferreira_%28Portuguese_footballer%29

 

[bikinigirl]

Right back......Pedj is definitely my starting RB. We are an infinitely better side with him in the back four. He has the best go forward of any fullback in HAL. His crossing is poor but that can be easily be fixed with repetition.

. ok firstly i am not going to pretend he is the world's best crosser ... but this seems to get way too much air time on here - his assist record indicates he does a commendable job (viewed in isolation you would never think he had a problem with crossing)

. he still reminds me of an excited child on christmas morning much of the time with his body moving faster than his brain (but that, i think, is part of the appeal)

. you (the royal you that is) may well criticise his crossing ability but the simple fact is you need to be there to make the cross ... and we haven't really seen much of that from others this year (although rosey was sensational against the chinese)

Need cover for when he is suspended.

. only one to get a mention in that regard ... his reputation does him no favours

 

[true believer]

umm my team to try would be if we get no one

----------------------matty


pedj--------wilco---------sainbury-----rose

---------------------zwanee


---pelli-----------------------------weemac


---------------------ollie


-------------bernie-----------macka/rogic


weemac has two feet so he can play LM. ollie has the pace/pass at am that could make a difference.

 

[tsd]

2 opinions,

people seem to notice and fixate (more so in the stadium than on here) the Bojic sprays BUT he puts in double the amount of crosses of any other right back ive seen in the a-league AND for every 10 balls in 3 might be a spectacular spray 6 are dangerous and 1 is a goal assist (not based on any facts, just memories and vibes!)

Duchy as DM, NO! the reason he is epic at CB is that he has been doing it for 20 years! dont play him out of position, most of his game would be based on habits and instinct, you dont want to make the guy have to over-think his positioning!

 

[true believer]

i hear you on zwanee .but at DM i believe that would facilatate him to play in more ned zelic type role .
this also allows us to get some youth back into an aging defence .

 

[Roy Law]

Patrick is far too slow to play DM.

 

[bikinigirl]

Patrick is far too slow to play DM.

. compared to hutch?

 

[Wombat]

umm my team to try would be if we get no one

----------------------matty


pedj--------wilco---------sainbury-----rose

---------------------zwanee


---pelli-----------------------------weemac


---------------------ollie


-------------bernie-----------macka/rogic

Not much to like there.

Sainsbury is not starting 11 standard at this stage.
I can see your thinking with Dutchy but no way would I play him at DM. You need players with dynamism in your central mid which is why 80-90% don't rate Hutcho in that role even though he has the skill and experience.
Pelle was a disaster last season and made Sutton look like a workhorse. Clearly he has some ability but his work rate is appalling and I'd start Hearfield before Pelle.

I do think Olly could play AM but is he better than Rojic there? He would be my starting LM.

Rogic played up front in one game last year and looked totally at sea. You could put him in youth in that position for the first half of the season and then draft him in but why bother. Once we get him fit and teach him that you don't just jog around in a circle when you haven't got the ball, he will be a world class AM.

I agree that Bernie should be a starting striker but McBreen is generally a terrible finisher so cannot be our main foil for Bernie. We need a real goalscorer and target man to work off and support Bernie.


weemac has two feet so he can play LM. ollie has the pace/pass at am that could make a difference.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

. compared to hutch?

After 40 minutes as DM he would be twice as slow as Hutch across the park. Hutch is not fast, but he is tenacious, has a god engine and gets through a lot of work a game.

You can't move Dutchy, more than half of his excellent defence is due to his exceptional positioning. It's a major reason why he is still so incredibly effective at 36.

Fitness has to also be strongly taken into account when talking DM. Dutchy is Clarkey fit, but he's a 36 year old perpetual CB. IHe's not DM fit. Though I do understand the sentiment behind Dutchy to DM - it's just not viable at this stage at all in my opinion.

Peoples opinions of Hutch often surprise me, he has been doing a very able job this season, and has actually been improving in his role in my opinion though I seem to be the only person who thinks so. I do think a second dedicated DM is a must, but I think he will have a battle on his hands to be starting over Hutch. And I'm more than happy for Caceres to be the one challenging for this role.

Personally, of all our players individually, it was Olly's form that has most concerned me in the second half of the season. I think his call ups have had a seriously detrimental effect on him. Though he has been really improving again last few games. He is also an able DM to be fair and has been making some great and ballsy committed challenges of late.

So, my only major concerns now are RB if Pedj goes, I do not believe we have a starting RB. A second true AM seem prudent, but above all, getting a 15+ goal a season striker. We have never had one. I can't be bothered going through the stats, but I suspect everyone else who has won premierships have likely done it with at least one striker scoring more than 10 goals.

And yes, Pedj needs high pace, high energy, high pressure, crossing practice. Lots of it. Because if his success rate was higher he would be a truly outstanding player. As it is, he's merely awesome

 

[pjennings]

Hutch is doing half the job of the DM. He screens the back four very well. What he doesn't do well is get the team going forward well.

Look at the positioning of Rose and Pedj with Hutch at DM rather than Rostyn. There are sitting at leeast 10 metres deeper. Olly and WeeMac would run into the space to give Rostyn options, they don't for Hutch because he doesn't release it when they do.

If you play continue with Hutch at DM we may need to change formation and play with 2 DMs and have Caceres next to him. Personally I think Hutch outperformed Olly at LM and I would be looking at him for in that position.

 

[Roy Law]

. compared to hutch?

Like it. Thank you for making me smile

 

[12th player]

Hutch is doing half the job of the DM. He screens the back four very well. What he doesn't do well is get the team going forward well.

Look at the positioning of Rose and Pedj with Hutch at DM rather than Rostyn. There are sitting at leeast 10 metres deeper. Olly and WeeMac would run into the space to give Rostyn options, they don't for Hutch because he doesn't release it when they do.

If you play continue with Hutch at DM we may need to change formation and play with 2 DMs and have Caceres next to him. Personally I think Hutch outperformed Olly at LM and I would be looking at him for in that position.

I agree with Hutch better than Olly at LM.I like the option of playing Hutch and Caceres together at DM.I believe it will give us more creativity as Caceres who is technically better than Hutch will have freedom to push forward and combine with the likes of Rogic and Birnie for example.On the RM that Fabio Ferreira did alright against Marconi.He showed pace when pushing forward and good distribution.

 

[neverwozza]

Agree with the phoenix on this one. I believe Hutch has been unfairly criticized for his performances in previous season. He used to drive me insane the way he would kill off an attacking move trying to shield the ball but has improved that area of his game this year. Given our financial constraints I think he makes an more than able DM. No doubting his heart and drive either and he bleeds blue and yellow.

 

[scoober]

Flores is available.........

 

[midfielder]

In hope more than anything else but for the marquee I would love Juan Riquelme ....

 

[Gratis]

anyone know how Matty's doing with Chunnam?

 

[crock]

i heard on nbn the other night that we are in negotations with aussie striker overseas
any ideas ?