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NRL Hooligans thread

curious

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A combination of many things, In australia you have the average rugby league & afl player on quadruple or more the salary of the average footballer. Bigger heads that come with the higher profile in their respective states. Too much free time, too much disposable income & too much grog. Be wary though. If & when resident Australian footballers have a similar income, a similar media profile & public attention, the immature or foolish will be tempted to afford themselves the special behaviour they think the big heads & bigger dollars allows them.

The problems with off field behaviour by pro footballers in England & elswhere around the world mirrors that of our own nrl/afl ect.
Some interesting unbiased reading below as to how, when, why & where.
http://www.epolitix.com/mpwebsites/mppressreleases/mppressreleasedetails/newsarticle/footballers-behaviour///mpsite/graham-allen/?no_cache=1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/3188250.stm
http://www.hero.ac.uk/uk/studying/archives/2002/field_of_learning1363.cfm

The US NFL makes the NRL look like a kindy learning centre regarding poor behaviour & the NBA isn't far behind it.
Regardless of what sport they all play, they have a number of things in common. Very high wages, big heads, grog culture, & high profile lumped together with the stupidity & arrogant naivety to think they can get away with garbage.
Another common denominator is a level of education much lower than that of the general population, which is a direct result of a young life dedicated to acheiving their goal of becoming a pro sportsman.

It's all there from sports leagues all around the world for anyone that can be bothered looking.

A few NFL listings
http://nflcrimes.blogspot.com/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/nfl/arrests.html
 

FFC Mariner

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Whilst that is a valid point (especially about the NFL/NBA). Laughing at knuckledraggers inability to handle themselves is much funnier than reasoned debate LOL
 

~Floss~

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Greenpoleffc said:
Whilst that is a valid point (especially about the NFL/NBA). Laughing at knuckledraggers inability to handle themselves is much funnier than reasoned debate LOL

Plus if we wanted to get into a reasoned debate we could always compare sports like golf, tennis and motorsports where the players enjoy just as much media exposure, money, public profile, etc. but arguably have a better reputation in terms of behaviour than any of the football codes and other sports mentioned. And they're probably just as likely to have missed out on a similar amount of education along the way too.

For me, this points towards culture being a huge factor.

No doubt all the other factors are a catalyst as it's a lot easier to muck up if you have access to "life in the fast lane". Without the factors of media exposure and a public profile no-one would know/care if you misbehaved anyway.
 

curious

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~Floss~ said:
Greenpoleffc said:
Whilst that is a valid point (especially about the NFL/NBA). Laughing at knuckledraggers inability to handle themselves is much funnier than reasoned debate LOL

Plus if we wanted to get into a reasoned debate we could always compare sports like golf, tennis and motorsports where the players enjoy just as much media exposure, money, public profile, etc. but arguably have a better reputation in terms of behaviour than any of the football codes and other sports mentioned. And they're probably just as likely to have missed out on a similar amount of education along the way too.

For me, this points towards culture being a huge factor.

No doubt all the other factors are a catalyst as it's a lot easier to muck up if you have access to "life in the fast lane". Without the factors of media exposure and a public profile no-one would know/care if you misbehaved anyway.
One very big difference floss. They are not team sports in a team environment.

& yes, without a public profile the media don't care becaue the public don't care to know about it.
 

FFC Mariner

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I think Nigel Mansell, Ayrton Senna, Barry Sheen and a few others might disagree there.

The issue is one of "celebrity" regardless of whether you get your fame from sport or entertainment. People have an insatiable thirst for celebrity gossip. A "famous" person thumping someone in a pub is always gonna be news
 

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
HERE IS THE ROAR NEWSLETTER TAKE ON THE KNUCKLE DRAGGERS "AHEM" WORLD CUP


If ever there was a game that called a spade a bloody shovel its rugby league.

So whats all this nonsense about a World Cup?

The poor mans rugby union World Cup is essentially an Australian product targeted at Australian audiences for the benefit of an Australian broadcaster. The English input into the event lingers much like the union jack on the north western margin of Australias flag, being dragged along by the greater southern body.

The influence of other nations represented at the event is similar to what you would find at your average state primary schools multicultural awareness day, where children are invited to stand up and tell the class what country their great-great grandmother came from and all the kids with slightly different sounding last names get their mums to bring in a plate of their home lands favourite delicacy.

The promotional advertisements for the World Cup are reminiscent of a scene from the Simpsons where a heavily intoxicated Lisa freaks out whilst taking the Its a small world after all ride at Duff Gardens. Surrounded by hordes of animatronic clones distinguishable only by their garish national dress, Lisa loses it amidst the contrived chorus where world unity is only facilitated by the consumption of a product of questionable nutritional value.

From 1954 until 1975 the game adopted the if you build it, they will come mantra and the first six rugby league World Cups were contested by only four teams; Australia, New Zealand, Great Britain and France. However after nearly 20 years of building it, only the Welsh came thanks largely to some pretty heavy raids upon that principalitys rugby union stocks and the convenient devolution of Great Britain into two sides. Sadly, after only one showing the boyos disappeared before the next version of the event in 1979 leaving it to be contested again by only four teams.

The next two rugby league World Cups were bizarrely each held over three years however this time the original four nations were joined by Papua New Guinea. So it was that after ten World Cups, roughly 100 years of professionalism and all of the media and political support that follows the interests of the masses, rugby league, that great beneficiary of Australias cultural cringe, had failed to make any meaningful growth beyond its tradition boundaries.

In 1995 a different path was taken. This time rather than sitting there, looking hopefully to the horizon waiting for somebody, anybody to show an interest in our game, leagues administrators decided that if other nations werent going to send teams of their own free will, rugby league would make teams for them. Whether they were interested or not.

As it turns out they probably werent. In the same year the still amateur rugby union held only its third World Cup and yet was able to more than double the average attendance figures of its professional counterpart whilst playing more than twice as many games.

Rugbys 1995 World Cup gave the sporting world two lasting memories; Nelson Mandela wearing the Springbok jersey and Jonah Lomu running straight over the top of the hapless Mike Catt, thereby giving rugby not only its most iconic highlight reel but its first global superstar.

Only the most ardent rugby league supporter would be able to recall a single highlight from that codes 1995 World Cup. If only international rugby league could have remained content in such optimistic mediocrity. Sadly over-ambition led the next World Cup into farce.

Buoyed by delusions of legitimacy, leagues international administrators decided to continue with their policy of creating international teams where none previously existed as had been the case with Ireland in 1995. In a move that seems like it came from a Will Ferrell movie, a Lebanese team was artificially created entirely from Australians of Lebanese origin. When rugby league ran out of countries willing to nurture the gift of league, it found a way around the problem by once again duplicating nations. New Zealand and New Zealand Maori were deemed sufficiently distinct entities to warrant separate representation.

You see, that is the great thing about rugby league it brings people together.

Fortunately this nefarious piece of political propaganda failed to net New Zealand a piece of silverwear as Australia inevitably took its ninth title in front of crowds that averaged a little over eight thousand. The event left the RFL in debt for four years and was so disastrous it pushed back the next World Cup until 2008.

And so here we are at the 13th rugby league World Cup and what does it tell us about the growth of the game.

All of the ten team captains play in one of two competitions; Australias National Rugby League and Europes Super League. France, 54 years since instigating the World Cup as a means of rebuilding their national competition, today fields only one team worthy of first class competition and New Zealands league future remains almost completely dependant upon that of Australias domestic competition.

By and large the game remains as it was 54 years ago, with strongholds in the north of England and the east of Australia and scatterings of interest in southern France and New Zealand. Where rugby exists, league will always find root and as such league finds its growth strangely dependant upon that of its rival code.

The most commonly cited exception is Papua New Guinea where rugby league enjoys a following of religious proportions and has achieved its status on its own merits. With all due respect to the people of PNG, this development is unlikely to yield either financial rewards or increased potential for further growth of the game as the country lacks the necessary infrastructure to accommodate a self-sufficient domestic competition of comparable quality to the NRL.

Its time for rugby league to stop trying to fool itself into believing it is a game of sufficient breadth to warrant a World Cup and start telling it like it is. The rugby league world consists of two fine domestic competitions, each rubbing cosily up against a promising but largely uncommitted neighbour much like an overzealous schoolboy on a disinterested maiden at a blue light disco.
 

serious14

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From the Sunday Telegraph..... seems their own broadcaster isn't even that interested.



CHANNEL Nine has robbed rugby league fans of live coverage of the World Cup.

Last night's tournament opening game between England and Papua New Guinea from Townsville was shown on 90 minute delay. Elf, a 2003 movie starring Hollywood star Will Ferrell, featured instead of the live action of last night's opening World Cup clash.

Even tonight's Australia-New Zealand blockbuster will be delayed by 40 minutes because of Nine's ongoing commitment to 60 Minutes. Any push to overturn the network's decision will fall on deaf ears.

The host network has confirmed all of Australia's World Cup fixtures will be shown at 8.30pm, including the official opening clash with New Zealand in Sydney tonight.

And in a further blow to the tournament that rugby league supporters have waited eight years to see, TV action of the match is more likely to be broadcast closer to 9pm.

A highlights package of tonight's curtain-raiser between the Indigenous Dreamtime team and the NZ Maori and the official opening ceremony celebrations will force viewers to wait almost an hour after the official kick-off time of 8pm.

A near sell-out, more than 30,000 tickets have been sold for the SFS clash between the Kangaroos and Kiwis. Nine's unrelenting commitment to ratings winner 60 Minutes is believed to be the major factor behind the delayed telecast of league's showpiece event.

The prospect of cancelling or airing 60 Minutes prior to or after its regular 7.30pm timeslot was not considered. Nine's head of sport Steve Crawley defended the decision, claiming coverage of the World Cup wouldn't suffer from a delayed telecast.

"I'm happy with it - 8.30pm is a prime-time slot,'' Crawley said. "Sunday night isn't a traditional rugby league night, so the 8.30pm time suits.''

Crawley confirmed that each of Australia's World Cup matches would be screened at 8.30pm.
"That's what we're happy with,'' he said.

League fans unwilling to wait for Nine's coverage can tune into radio broadcaster 2GB for a live call of the match, with Telstra BigPond streaming the game live and uninterrupted.
 

Arabmariner

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6 Aussies in the Scotland starting team and another two on the bench.

The rest are either English or French with a couple of Scots to try and make it almost authentic lol.

Any of my fellow Scots out there who might think about supporting this joke.....you must be a sad person with no life!! :p
 

Sym

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So wait, Australia wasn't even the opening game. I thought it'd be them for sure.
 

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