New stadium for Mariners?

[skilbeck]

Damn right. Population growth since mid 1700s is rather scary. Throw the technology revolution into the mix (which really only fired up seriously for the general populous in the 80s) and who knows where we will be in 100 years.

My guess would be something similar to about 800 years ago in very isolated pockets (if we are lucky).

Heres some wikipedia articles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_catastrophe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_growth_model
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_demography
the last one is because history repeats itself

A real economists view.
We have been able to cope with density independent forms of population controls so far, however sooner or later density depedent forms will kick in and it will not be pretty.
Either plague or we drown in our own waste (most prolly CO2).
Eat drink and be meerry...........

it will have to be plague or famine. the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere even if all the fossil fuels were to be consumed would still only be in an order of less than 1%. famine is the one i think is most likely considering the food shortages that exist in much of the third world, whereas the plague would need to be something that isnt in the pandemic stage yet as AIDS incubates for a long time and not transmissible enough

 

[Ursus]

You will not need 1% CO2 to stuff things up.
550 ppm which is what they are hoping to stabilize Co2 levels at by 2050 with 60% cuts in emissions will be more than enough. Current levels are 385 ppm. 1% is equivalent to 10,000 ppm.

However there are 2 chances of those cuts happening.  :

Personally I do not see any politician taking it seriously until we start to see some dramatic effects. We will be well and truly over the tipping point then, if we are not already. When that happens then you can kiss your ass goodbye. :'(

Take my advice. Eat drink and be merry while you can.

 

[Bear]

umm












what

 

[clarence]

it will have to be plague or famine. the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere even if all the fossil fuels were to be consumed would still only be in an order of less than 1%. famine is the one i think is most likely considering the food shortages that exist in much of the third world, whereas the plague would need to be something that isnt in the pandemic stage yet as AIDS incubates for a long time and not transmissible enough

Forget building a stadium, build a bloody biosphere so we can all escape the Armageddon that is around the corner!

 

[skilbeck]

You will not need 1% CO2 to stuff things up.
550 ppm which is what they are hoping to stabilize Co2 levels at by 2050 with 60% cuts in emissions will be more than enough. Current levels are 385 ppm. 1% is equivalent to 10,000 ppm.

However there are 2 chances of those cuts happening.  :

Personally I do not see any politician taking it seriously until we start to see some dramatic effects. We will be well and truly over the tipping point then, if we are not already. When that happens then you can kiss your ass goodbye. :'(

Take my advice. Eat drink and be merry while you can.

yep and this is provided that the world remains at relative peace for the next 100 years. The moment that first nuke goes off you can count your minutes really

 

[Part_Timer]

ill get my mate tom to pay for it if you like, CC scientologist mariners

 

[serious14]

You will not need 1% CO2 to stuff things up.
550 ppm which is what they are hoping to stabilize Co2 levels at by 2050 with 60% cuts in emissions will be more than enough. Current levels are 385 ppm. 1% is equivalent to 10,000 ppm.

However there are 2 chances of those cuts happening.  :

Personally I do not see any politician taking it seriously until we start to see some dramatic effects. We will be well and truly over the tipping point then, if we are not already. When that happens then you can kiss your ass goodbye. :'(

Take my advice. Eat drink and be merry while you can.

Oh, sorry Ursus....... you were being for real??  *sigh*  Poor misguided lad.

 

[Ursus]

You will not need 1% CO2 to stuff things up.
550 ppm which is what they are hoping to stabilize Co2 levels at by 2050 with 60% cuts in emissions will be more than enough. Current levels are 385 ppm. 1% is equivalent to 10,000 ppm.

However there are 2 chances of those cuts happening.  :

Personally I do not see any politician taking it seriously until we start to see some dramatic effects. We will be well and truly over the tipping point then, if we are not already. When that happens then you can kiss your ass goodbye. :'(

Take my advice. Eat drink and be merry while you can.

Oh, sorry Ursus....... you were being for real??  *sigh*  Poor misguided lad.

Aaaah, they say ignorance is bliss. *sigh* You lucky bastard.

 

[Sacko]

I think your've been watching too many "Dad's Army" re-runs...

"We're doomed!!!"

 

[Jesus]

It seems crazy that in one sentance people are sasying that technology changes faster by the second, and the world in 50 years time will be so much different.

Then, on the other hand say that if we dont reduce emmisions by 25 years time there is no going back.

Surely the fact remains that we have no idea what we will know in 25 years time, and it may be quite reversable.

Anyway, though i agree global warming is bad, the fact that mars icecaps are melting at a similar rate suggests to me that we are perhaps vein to assume that we could even cause such an affect. And that perhaps the 2 situations are linked in some way by a much grander force than our own. (I know, more grand than man? As if! )

That is not saying that we should not clean up our act and incredibly diminish emmisions, which i am strongly in favour of.

 

[dibo]

i want one of these:

 

[dru]

I don't think it will fit in your backyard dibo  how much would it cost us?

You want anything with terraces.

 

[dibo]

I don't think it will fit in your backyard dibo  how much would it cost us?

i dunno, my flat in stanmore has a pretty big balcony. *whistles*

no idea what it'd cost

You want anything with terraces.

terraces or not, something 4-sided of that sort of size (23k seats, 7k terraced or about 28k all seated) would be about perfect for us.

 

[dru]

I don't think it will fit in your backyard dibo  how much would it cost us?

i dunno, my flat in stanmore has a pretty big balcony. *whistles*

no idea what it'd cost

You want anything with terraces.

terraces or not, something 4-sided of that sort of size (23k seats, 7k terraced or about 28k all seated) would be about perfect for us.

Give us a small terrace amongst the palm trees for home fans and a second level above the northern concourse and I think we would be set for quite a while.

 

[T]

Just make sure that the home area is close to the bar 

 

[Paolo]

I don't think it will fit in your backyard dibo  how much would it cost us?

i dunno, my flat in stanmore has a pretty big balcony. *whistles*

no idea what it'd cost

You want anything with terraces.

terraces or not, something 4-sided of that sort of size (23k seats, 7k terraced or about 28k all seated) would be about perfect for us.

Give us a small terrace amongst the palm trees for home fans and a second level above the northern concourse and I think we would be set for quite a while.

Something like this down the palm trees end would do nicely

 

[mariners4ever]

would be excellent IMHO

 

[dibo]

I don't think it will fit in your backyard dibo  how much would it cost us?

i dunno, my flat in stanmore has a pretty big balcony. *whistles*

no idea what it'd cost

You want anything with terraces.

terraces or not, something 4-sided of that sort of size (23k seats, 7k terraced or about 28k all seated) would be about perfect for us.

Give us a small terrace amongst the palm trees for home fans and a second level above the northern concourse and I think we would be set for quite a while.

Something like this down the palm trees end would do nicely

something like that at the *northern* end wouldn't be so bad!

 

[serious14]

You will not need 1% CO2 to stuff things up.
550 ppm which is what they are hoping to stabilize Co2 levels at by 2050 with 60% cuts in emissions will be more than enough. Current levels are 385 ppm. 1% is equivalent to 10,000 ppm.

However there are 2 chances of those cuts happening.  :

Personally I do not see any politician taking it seriously until we start to see some dramatic effects. We will be well and truly over the tipping point then, if we are not already. When that happens then you can kiss your ass goodbye. :'(

Take my advice. Eat drink and be merry while you can.

Oh, sorry Ursus....... you were being for real??   *sigh*  Poor misguided lad.

Aaaah, they say ignorance is bliss. *sigh* You lucky bastard.

Informed ignorance my friend. 

 

[soundsdifferent]

totaly a rumor
none of it is rue only speculation amoung marinators.