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Mariners vs Wellington at NSO - Game Talk

dibo

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umm ,my understanding is the GM of minagara gets paid a handsome sum.
so is ccls the exception?

General Manager is a staff position. Director is a Board position - you're comparing apples and washing machines.

GM reports to the Board and is responsible for the management of the club.

Directors are elected by members and are responsible for the good governance of the club (including hiring and firing the GM).
 

true believer

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General Manager is a staff position. Director is a Board position - you're comparing apples and washing machines.

GM reports to the Board and is responsible for the management of the club.

Directors are elected by members and are responsible for the good governance of the club (including hiring and firing the GM).

so no one is getting paid? or everybody is getting a cut?
or are we gunna get . the acme corporate guide next?
 

FFC Mariner

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IMHO we need to be more ambitious and go for the scenic lounge.

Piss off the old time waltzing classes or whatever nonsense they put on.

DJ/live music and get it rocking.

The pub pre GF was brilliant even without a band. That can't be recreated for every game sadly but for bigger games its doable.

A Kendall without music/chanting etc is just another bar really.
 

dibo

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so no one is getting paid? or everybody is getting a cut?
or are we gunna get . the acme corporate guide next?

The GM is paid (along with other staff), the Board (i.e. the Directors) aren't.

Moving on.

IMHO we need to be more ambitious and go for the scenic lounge.

Piss off the old time waltzing classes or whatever nonsense they put on.

DJ/live music and get it rocking.

The pub pre GF was brilliant even without a band. That can't be recreated for every game sadly but for bigger games its doable.

A Kendall without music/chanting etc is just another bar really.

Going big would be good. When the Kendall got empty, it got emptier. We need to fill it and make it continue to feel full. It shouldn't just be a family room, it should have some muscle and noise about it. People shouldn't feel like a song is out of place because there are kids around.
 

true believer

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The GM is paid (along with other staff), the Board (i.e. the Directors) aren't.

Moving on.



Going big would be good. When the Kendall got empty, it got emptier. We need to fill it and make it continue to feel full. It shouldn't just be a family room, it should have some muscle and noise about it. People shouldn't feel like a song is out of place because there are kids around.




so we actualy have no salary data .but we should move on.good one
you know dude . i saw that merrylands rsl owns .everglades over at umina.
why would you accumulate clubs except for profit
 

dibo

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so we actualy have no salary data .but we should move on.good one
you know dude . i saw that merrylands rsl owns .everglades over at umina.
why would you accumulate clubs except for profit

We have salary data - you talked about obscenely well paid directors and they aren't paid a cent. Where's the problem? Is your problem that you think the staff shouldn't be paid?

The reason they 'accumulate clubs' (i.e. combine clubs into larger corporate structures) is because they can combine management structures and programs and gain economies of scale. They're non-profit (i.e. their surpluses can't be distributed and have to be reinvested). They make *plenty* from pokies, and reinvest.

If there's something evil there (aside from the pokies, which are obviously the work of the devil) I'm obviously missing it.
 

priorpeter

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IMHO we need to be more ambitious and go for the scenic lounge.

Piss off the old time waltzing classes or whatever nonsense they put on.

DJ/live music and get it rocking.

The pub pre GF was brilliant even without a band. That can't be recreated for every game sadly but for bigger games its doable.

A Kendall without music/chanting etc is just another bar really.

Brilliant. Will flag that and aim for that for the big games (WSW, SFC, Scum); see if it's doable.

Will see what I can arrange in terms of music too.
 

dibo

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Looks like a cross between this

NorthernSpiritAway9900.jpg


and this

NorthernSpiritAway0203.jpg


It's worth noting they only needed the white away kit because they let those monkeys from Rangers buy in and change the shirt blue.
 

sydmariner

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Looks like a cross between this

NorthernSpiritAway9900.jpg


and this

NorthernSpiritAway0203.jpg


It's worth noting they only needed the white away kit because they let those monkeys from Rangers buy in and change the shirt blue.
I thought those were pretty good I have 3 of them 1 signed by the entire squad & 1 signed by Robbie Slater
 
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priorpeter

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*bumpit*
Apparently, there's an article coming out in tomorrow's Herald around planning being underway to move more CCM games to NSO. From the sounds, we could lose half our home games. Whilst a rumour at this stage, I've heard the article has statements from Charlsworth to that effect.

I think it's a fantastic way to ruin our support base; simply brilliant.
 

eenfish

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*bumpit*
Apparently, there's an article coming out in tomorrow's Herald around planning being underway to move more CCM games to NSO. From the sounds, we could lose half our home games. Whilst a rumour at this stage, I've heard the article has statements from Charlsworth to that effect.

I think it's a fantastic way to ruin our support base; simply brilliant.

Bolded for emphasis. I understand there is a possible market in North Sydney for a team, moving a team from Gosford would be awful for the current team.
 

dibo

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I live in Stanmore. North Sydney's a lot closer to where I live than Gosford. But I don't support Central Coast because it's convenient.

I support Central Coast because that's where I'm from. It's part of who I am. By extension, so are the Mariners.

If the Mariners move half their games to NSO, they're not really a CC team anymore. The identity is lost, and the depth my attachment is lost with it. It's not my team anymore.

If you're a Coastie (present or ex-pat), what's the point of supporting a Central Coast team if it's not really a Central Coast team?

If you're from North Sydney, don't you deserve a team of your own rather than borrowing one from the sticks for a few weeks a year?

Quite frankly it's an insult to both regions.
 

eenfish

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I live in Stanmore. North Sydney's a lot closer to where I live than Gosford. But I don't support Central Coast because it's convenient.

I support Central Coast because that's where I'm from. It's part of who I am. By extension, so are the Mariners.

If the Mariners move half their games to NSO, they're not really a CC team anymore. The identity is lost, and the depth my attachment is lost with it. It's not my team anymore.

If you're a Coastie (present or ex-pat), what's the point of supporting a Central Coast team if it's not really a Central Coast team?

If you're from North Sydney, don't you deserve a team of your own rather than borrowing one from the sticks for a few weeks a year?

Quite frankly it's an insult to both regions.

Definitely agree. I'm moving to Melbourne soon, but the Mariners will still be my team. The talk of the Mariners maybe moving to Melbourne in the off season got me mad and my girlfriend didn't understand - shouldn't I be happy that the team was moving to Melbourne so I could go to games?

Like Dibo said, whats the point of supporting the Mariners if they're not really a Central Coast team? I live in Sydney, I don't support Sydney. I'm moving to Melbourne, I'm not going to support Melbourne. Doesn't matter where I live, I'll always be a Coastie, and part of that is supporting the Mariners.

Lets hope this turns out to be a baseless rumour, but considering it makes "economic" sense, I wouldn't be surprised if Charlseworth has suggested the idea or had it suggested to him.
 

Atomic

Well-Known Member
Hopefully he is using reverse psychology on us... so we turn up to support the team at Bluey.
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
CCMFC is pushing for management rights at Graham Park - is is possible that this is just a *really* ham-fisted attempt to influence Council? Give them the rights or they'll take half the regular business down the road?

The more I think about it rationally, the more I think that this is the most likely motivation.

If I were Gosford Council it would harden my resolve to assess the business cases as coldly as possible on the basis of applications submitted and let power plays go to hell.
 

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